sci.electronics.repair - 25 new messages in 10 topics - digest

sci.electronics.repair
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair?hl=en

sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com

Today's topics:

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Marrshall amp custom mod front panel
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/2bba4025bd381b9e?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 1:00 am
From: "N_Cook"

Paul Hovnanian P.E. <Paul@Hovnanian.com> wrote in message
news:4C6DA9BF.76D8B511@Hovnanian.com...
> N_Cook wrote:
> >
> > This on a 4100/JCM 900 but presumably found on other wide cab valve
amps.
> > Front panel replaced with translucent smoked brown plexi-glass and
Marxhall
> > white 3D
> > logo over it, reflective "silver" lining to the rear panel and running
> > without screens or
> > retainers on the valves , for visible effect. But heavyish plexiglass
sheet
> > only relying on a few glue spots onto the rexine covering, itself glued
to
> > not much woodwork. So nothing much holding it in place, now a few glue
spots
> > have failed . Any ideas on how to make a firmer fixing without drilling
> > holes through the material. There is white trim around top and sides of
the
> > plexiglass , bonded to it, that could perhaps hide fittings
>
> Glue (use the special plexiglass bonding solvent) some plexiglass blocks
> around the periphery of the panel, hidden by the white trim. Drill these
> blocks (before gluing) for mounting screws that thread into the cabinet.
>
> Alternate to drilling the plexiglass blocks: Fashion some clips (metal)
> that thread into the cabinet and grab the blocks.
>
> --
> Paul Hovnanian mailto:Paul@Hovnanian.com
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> You're only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!

Whatever the glue is , it is fine on the plexiglass. What has failed is the
surface , only, of the rexine has sheared off. So perhaps baring back to the
underlying wood is all that is needed. On the other hand there is a
noticeable bowing in the plexiglass , perhaps 1/4 inch over the length,
presumably due to heat, helping to shear any bonds on the sides

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 6:37 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"

"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
news:i4j3pf$1ul$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Ron <ron@lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote in message
> news:AoOdneYFbfZilvDRnZ2dnUVZ8l-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>> On 18/08/2010 20:34, hr(bob) hofmann@att.net wrote:
>> > On Aug 18, 5:02 am, "N_Cook"<dive...@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> This on a 4100/JCM 900 but presumably found on other wide cab valve
> amps.
>> >> Front panel replaced with translucent smoked brown plexi-glass and
> Marxhall
>> >> white 3D
>> >> logo over it, reflective "silver" lining to the rear panel and running
>> >> without screens or
>> >> retainers on the valves , for visible effect. But heavyish plexiglass
> sheet
>> >> only relying on a few glue spots onto the rexine covering, itself
>> >> glued
> to
>> >> not much woodwork. So nothing much holding it in place, now a few glue
> spots
>> >> have failed . Any ideas on how to make a firmer fixing without
>> >> drilling
>> >> holes through the material. There is white trim around top and sides
>> >> of
> the
>> >> plexiglass , bonded to it, that could perhaps hide fittings
>> >
>> > Lots of epoxy
>>
>> velco
>
>
> The owner was aware of it being loose (1.2Kg) and he is going to sort it
> out
> by gluing back, apparently he's done it before, so not my pidgeon.
> He reported that over time whereas he was comfortable with 1/3 vol clean
> ch
> setting , he reckons that imperseptibly over years he now needs 1/2 vol
> setting.
> 3x ECC83 , generic recommended gain 1.6
> these measure
> v1 / 1.3,1.4
> v2/ 1.0,1.2
> v3/ 1.2,1.1
>
> would that accord with people's experience here, av 1.2 over 6 triodes
> would
> account for that gain drop?
> 4x EL34 all fine at 13 to 14 at 59 to 66mA
>
> Back to wrestling with a 7.5 inch guage 12V,60 amp ride on train loco
>
>

I would first make sure that none of the ECC83 anode load resistors have
gone high, if you feel that the gain is definitely down.

Arfa

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Semi-conductor Question
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/bc3822e35eab24b0?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 3:16 am
From: Bob Villa

Many years ago (possibly 50) you could buy a module that would take
the place of a starting relay or centrifugal cut-out for an AC motor.
Where do you find them? (I think I sent for one thru Popular Science
mag at the time)
Thanks

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 7:08 am
From: Pilgrim

In article
<e6651839-0b72-4722-9a06-4ca6557c386d@h19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Bob Villa <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> wrote:

> Many years ago (possibly 50) you could buy a module that would take
> the place of a starting relay or centrifugal cut-out for an AC motor.
> Where do you find them? (I think I sent for one thru Popular Science
> mag at the time)
> Thanks

I don't know about a solid state version. But, there are
electro-mechanical versions that are quite common on motors less than
1 hp. They control the input to the start winding with a current
sensitive relay. When the motor is turned on the inrush current closes
the circuit to the start winding. When the motor gets up to speed and
the current drops to the run value the relay opens the circuit the the
start winding. I believe Klixon made them. You might try and google them.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 7:51 am
From: nesesu

On Aug 20, 3:16 am, Bob Villa <pheeh.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Many years ago (possibly 50) you could buy a module that would take
> the place of a starting relay or centrifugal cut-out for an AC motor.
> Where do you find them? (I think I sent for one thru Popular Science
> mag at the time)
> Thanks

Those relays are [were] commonly used on sealed refrigeration
compressor motors, so check out an appliance repair place or a heating/
air conditioning place.
Neil S.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 1:50 pm
From: "ian field"

"nesesu" <neil_sutcliffe@telus.net> wrote in message
news:518162d2-e047-4047-9146-46e73016df9d@s17g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 20, 3:16 am, Bob Villa <pheeh.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Many years ago (possibly 50) you could buy a module that would take
> the place of a starting relay or centrifugal cut-out for an AC motor.
> Where do you find them? (I think I sent for one thru Popular Science
> mag at the time)
> Thanks

Those relays are [were] commonly used on sealed refrigeration
compressor motors, so check out an appliance repair place or a heating/
air conditioning place.
Neil S.

---------------------------------------------

Some fridge motors use a PTC thermistor instead of a current sensing relay -
once or twice I've successfully bodged motors with failed thermistors by
using the thermistor from a CRT TV degauss posistor.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Opinions Requested - new 50"+ LCD TV
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/cf577b60155035fa?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 3:39 am
From: Bob Villa

On Aug 17, 10:25 pm, Smitty Two <prestwh...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In article <pan.2010.08.17.21.38...@hahahahahahahah.nutz.I.am>,
> Meat Plow <mhyw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Well I'm going to replace my 11 yr old 51" Panasonic projector.
> > Not because it doesn't work, actually works very well. It's highest
> > resolution is 480p. I'll be shopping for a new LCD set equal in size
> > or slightly larger soon. Of course I want a great fast picture with
> > super high contrast. And reliability. I might spend around $3000 US.
> > What are some choices and their advantages?
>
> So you're not going 3D?

3D is a gimmick. We have the BD of "Coraline" in 3D and it is almost
as good as the demo I have seen at the showrooms.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 11:26 am
From: PlainBill47@yawho.com

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:55:36 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

>Here's a negative review of the Quattron set...
>
>http://www.avguide.com/review/sharp-lc-46le820-quattron-led-illuminated-lcd-hdtv-tpv-93?page=2&src=Playback
>
And here's a somewhat positive review.
http://shopping.yahoo.com/articles/yshoppingarticles/415/best-tvs-under-1000

I'm of the opinion that it would take a complete rework of the system
from studio to TV to get truely realistic colors. Heck, even
photgraphs are at best an approximation.

I always try to remember that what one person sees as a needless frill
someone else will see as a vital feature. And vice versa. So a
suggestion that the OP take a look is just that - a suggestion, not a
ringing endorsement of the technology.

PlainBill

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 11:41 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"

> I'm of the opinion that it would take a complete rework
> of the system from studio to TV to get truly realistic colors.
> Heck, even photgraphs are at best an approximation.

It's impossible to design a system that's 100% accurate. The main problem
seems to be that the green and blue cones' sensitivities overlap too much.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Technics SA-310 Intermittent Weak Left Channel
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/24c0d76fe3922429?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 7:19 am
From: Meat Plow

On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 02:33:32 +0100, Arfa Daily wrote:

> "William R. Walsh" <newsgroups1@idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.com>
> wrote in message news:bIadnVM7xZ5rHPHRnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@mchsi.com...
>> Hi!
>>
>>> Do you have any kind of iPod Touch or iPhone?
>>
>> Yes, I have a first generation iPod Touch. I should have thought of
>> that..."there's an app for that" too I guess.
>>
>> Out of the applications you have, is there any one that stands out
>> above the
>> rest, whether free or not?
>>
>> William
>>
>>
>>
> I have two on there. One is called "FreqGen" and the other is called
> "Oscillatr Free" actually spelt like that. Both are much the same in
> functionality, but I think that FreqGen is a bit nicer to use.
>
> Arfa

I still use my old Leader from the 80s. It's coupled to my freq counter
if I need to be precise.

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 6:55 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"

"Meat Plow" <mhywatt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2010.08.20.14.18.33@hahahahahahahah.nutz.I.am...
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 02:33:32 +0100, Arfa Daily wrote:
>
>> "William R. Walsh" <newsgroups1@idontwantjunqueemail.walshcomptech.com>
>> wrote in message news:bIadnVM7xZ5rHPHRnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@mchsi.com...
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>> Do you have any kind of iPod Touch or iPhone?
>>>
>>> Yes, I have a first generation iPod Touch. I should have thought of
>>> that..."there's an app for that" too I guess.
>>>
>>> Out of the applications you have, is there any one that stands out
>>> above the
>>> rest, whether free or not?
>>>
>>> William
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I have two on there. One is called "FreqGen" and the other is called
>> "Oscillatr Free" actually spelt like that. Both are much the same in
>> functionality, but I think that FreqGen is a bit nicer to use.
>>
>> Arfa
>
> I still use my old Leader from the 80s. It's coupled to my freq counter
> if I need to be precise.
>
>

For most bench work, I use a Ferrograph Pro Recorder Test Set that has a
rather nice frequency and amplitude stabilised multi decade oscillator in
it, but I also have an old and cherished Marconi Instruments "R-C
Oscillator" which uses tubes as I recall, although it's been a long time
since I've been inside it. Looks like it probably dates from the 60s.

Arfa

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Technics SA-R210 Receiver
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/895a543c71714c42?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 9:34 am
From: Puddin' Man

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:51:55 -0700 (PDT), stratus46@yahoo.com wrote:

>A simple voltmeter can give a lot of information particularly while
>it's in 'failed' mode. While power devices (transistors and the main
>audio power IC) can go 'thermal, I haven't seen a thermally sensitive
>transistor in many years. The most common way back when was the TO-220
>case devices - just like Q 701,702 and 705 but I would put money on
>bad solder joints.

>> >On the similar SA-160 which has 2 regulator transistors on the main
>> >heat sink, all 6 terminals were cracked loose. After re-soldering
>> >those I unsoldered the main power IC and resoldered it too since it is
>> >mounted the same way as the transistors. Surprisingly, none of the
>> >foil pads were damaged.

If you could render just a rough break-down of what was involved
in resoldering the 6 terminals, it would be very much appreciated.

Thx,
P

"Law Without Equity Is No Law At All. It Is A Form Of Jungle Rule."

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 6:49 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"

"Puddin' Man" <puddingDOTman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7ebt66hpvo559r4aghbs8jebr9908mes4b@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:51:55 -0700 (PDT), stratus46@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>>A simple voltmeter can give a lot of information particularly while
>>it's in 'failed' mode. While power devices (transistors and the main
>>audio power IC) can go 'thermal, I haven't seen a thermally sensitive
>>transistor in many years. The most common way back when was the TO-220
>>case devices - just like Q 701,702 and 705 but I would put money on
>>bad solder joints.
>
>>> >On the similar SA-160 which has 2 regulator transistors on the main
>>> >heat sink, all 6 terminals were cracked loose. After re-soldering
>>> >those I unsoldered the main power IC and resoldered it too since it is
>>> >mounted the same way as the transistors. Surprisingly, none of the
>>> >foil pads were damaged.
>
> If you could render just a rough break-down of what was involved
> in resoldering the 6 terminals, it would be very much appreciated.
>
> Thx,
> P

Reworking cracked joints on a practical level involves no more than applying
a nice hot iron to the side of the joint, then when the existing solder
melts, running a small amount - no more than 2 or 3 mm - of new flux-cored
solder into the molten joint. Hold the iron on the joint for a further 1 to
2 seconds, then slide it quickly away. This should leave a nice shiny joint
(assuming this is standard leaded solder) with no signs of a crack,
dullness, or crystalline appearance. If you want to be really pedantic about
the job, you can remove the existing solder first, before making a new joint
with fresh solder, but in order to do that, you would need at the very least
some solder wick, and if you lack the soldering experience to be able to go
for this repair without checking on the best way to go about it first, I
guess that it's going to be unlikely that you have any, or the experience to
use it to clean the joint.

If you just go ahead and do it as I have described, you should be fine.

Good luck with it

Arfa

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Toshiba lcd tv
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/b76db16fe68b702a?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 9:58 am
From: "John T."

Does anyone know where I can get the firmware update for a Toshiba 19DV665DB
lcd tv ? It has the well known sound fault, which I'm told can be fixed with
the upgrade. I've checked the Toshiba website, but there are no updates for
the DV series tv's. I believe the 22" version has the same fault.

Thanks
John T.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Why we have Gravity
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/004d04dfe74c9553?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 10:47 am
From: David Nebenzahl

On 8/19/2010 7:01 PM fitz spake thus:

> Why we have Gravity
>
> A correct theory of gravity will show us these four (4) things:
> 1. It will show us why gravity also acts like acceleration (principle
> of equvalence).
> 2. It will show us the actual cause of gravity.
> 3. It will show us why gravitational force and inertial force are
> equivalent.
> 4. It will show us the speed of gravitational attraction.

Well, I'm personally anti-gravity.

*Down with gravity!*

--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 11:10 am
From: Bob Villa

On Aug 20, 10:47 am, David Nebenzahl <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote:
> On 8/19/2010 7:01 PM fitz spake thus:
>
> > Why we have Gravity
>
> > A correct theory of gravity will show us these four (4) things:
> > 1. It will show us why gravity also acts like acceleration (principle
> > of equvalence).
> > 2. It will show us the actual cause of gravity.
> > 3. It will show us why gravitational force and inertial force are
> > equivalent.
> > 4. It will show us the speed of gravitational attraction.
>
> Well, I'm personally anti-gravity.
>
> *Down with gravity!*
>
> --
> The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
> with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.
>
> - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)

...and gravity says, "down with us".

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 12:34 pm
From: zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS)

In article <4c6ebf82$0$2370$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com>, David Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>On 8/19/2010 7:01 PM fitz spake thus:
>
>> Why we have Gravity
>>
>> A correct theory of gravity will show us these four (4) things:
>> 1. It will show us why gravity also acts like acceleration (principle
>> of equvalence).
>> 2. It will show us the actual cause of gravity.
>> 3. It will show us why gravitational force and inertial force are
>> equivalent.
>> 4. It will show us the speed of gravitational attraction.
>
>Well, I'm personally anti-gravity.
>
>*Down with gravity!*

Its not down. Its into.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 2:31 pm
From: "William Sommerwerck"

> *Down with gravity!*

That's the direction it usually works in, isn't it?

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Best solder free electrical connection
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/11e5e6461418f740?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 11:35 am
From: geoff

In message <_e2dnV79s4bpVvDRnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Michael A.
Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes
>> >>>>>>> Excuse me, but is the OP a Septic or English ?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> If he/she/it is English, it's bugger all use pointing them at Septic
>> >>>>>>> outlets, is it?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm sorry, I have absolutely no idea what you are writing
>> >>>>>> about. Could you find someone to translate it into American?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>> Septic tank = yank
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> duh - colonials
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Um, the cultural education is nice but what's it got to do
>> >>>> with electrical connections to a battery holder? Bizarre is
>> >>>> fun but at least I try to keep my jokes within the subject
>> >>>> matter being discussed. 8-)
>> >>>>
>> >>> Did you not read my post about 10 lines above ?
>> >>>
>> >>> I'll type it again without sarcasm or pisstaking
>> >>>
>> >>> "Excuse me, but is the OP a Septic or English ?
>> >>>
>> >>> If he/she/it is English, it's bugger all use pointing them at Septic
>> >>> outlets, is it?"
>> >>>
>> >>> Capiche, ragazzo ?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Any references to Yank suppliers were for examples ONLY.
>> >> Sometimes a picture can help one communicate with those
>> >> who speak another language. 8-)
>> >>
>> > Septics.for example
>> >
>> > ha ha
>> >
>>
>> Slimy Limeys. 8-)
>
>
> Bunch of flaming queens.

Ah - the whinings of the colonial underclass

--
geoff

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 2:05 pm
From: The Daring Dufas

On 8/20/2010 1:35 PM, geoff wrote:
> In message <_e2dnV79s4bpVvDRnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Michael A.
> Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes
>>> >>>>>>> Excuse me, but is the OP a Septic or English ?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> If he/she/it is English, it's bugger all use pointing them at
>>> Septic
>>> >>>>>>> outlets, is it?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I'm sorry, I have absolutely no idea what you are writing
>>> >>>>>> about. Could you find someone to translate it into American?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>> Septic tank = yank
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> duh - colonials
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Um, the cultural education is nice but what's it got to do
>>> >>>> with electrical connections to a battery holder? Bizarre is
>>> >>>> fun but at least I try to keep my jokes within the subject
>>> >>>> matter being discussed. 8-)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>> Did you not read my post about 10 lines above ?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'll type it again without sarcasm or pisstaking
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "Excuse me, but is the OP a Septic or English ?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If he/she/it is English, it's bugger all use pointing them at Septic
>>> >>> outlets, is it?"
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Capiche, ragazzo ?
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >> Any references to Yank suppliers were for examples ONLY.
>>> >> Sometimes a picture can help one communicate with those
>>> >> who speak another language. 8-)
>>> >>
>>> > Septics.for example
>>> >
>>> > ha ha
>>> >
>>>
>>> Slimy Limeys. 8-)
>>
>>
>> Bunch of flaming queens.
>
>
> Ah - the whinings of the colonial underclass
>
>

Don't worry cousin, the next time you're attacked, we'll still come to
your rescue. 8-)

TDD

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 2:29 pm
From: geoff

In message <i4mqmq$gim$2@news.eternal-september.org>, The Daring Dufas
<the-daring-dufas@peckerhead.net> writes
>On 8/20/2010 1:35 PM, geoff wrote:
>> In message <_e2dnV79s4bpVvDRnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Michael A.
>> Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes
>>>> >>>>>>> Excuse me, but is the OP a Septic or English ?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> If he/she/it is English, it's bugger all use pointing them at
>>>> Septic
>>>> >>>>>>> outlets, is it?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I'm sorry, I have absolutely no idea what you are writing
>>>> >>>>>> about. Could you find someone to translate it into American?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Septic tank = yank
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> duh - colonials
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Um, the cultural education is nice but what's it got to do
>>>> >>>> with electrical connections to a battery holder? Bizarre is
>>>> >>>> fun but at least I try to keep my jokes within the subject
>>>> >>>> matter being discussed. 8-)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>> Did you not read my post about 10 lines above ?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I'll type it again without sarcasm or pisstaking
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> "Excuse me, but is the OP a Septic or English ?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> If he/she/it is English, it's bugger all use pointing them at Septic
>>>> >>> outlets, is it?"
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Capiche, ragazzo ?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Any references to Yank suppliers were for examples ONLY.
>>>> >> Sometimes a picture can help one communicate with those
>>>> >> who speak another language. 8-)
>>>> >>
>>>> > Septics.for example
>>>> >
>>>> > ha ha
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Slimy Limeys. 8-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Bunch of flaming queens.
>>
>>
>> Ah - the whinings of the colonial underclass
>>
>>
>
>Don't worry cousin, the next time you're attacked, we'll still come to
>your rescue. 8-)
>
I should bloody well hope so - the number of times we've had to be there
to help you out of late

... despite more of our troops getting killed by septic friendly fire in
the first Iraqi fracas

Which brings me round to thinking ...

Have you actually won anything since you came to help us out (at great
expense to us) in WW2 ?

err ... Vietnam ? ... No

Chad ? ... No

and whose defence network was hacked by a 14 year old kid

anyway, bye for a while - off to sunny germany

--
geoff

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 7:59 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

geoff wrote:
>
> In message <_e2dnV79s4bpVvDRnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Michael A.
> Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes
> >> >>>>>>> Excuse me, but is the OP a Septic or English ?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> If he/she/it is English, it's bugger all use pointing them at Septic
> >> >>>>>>> outlets, is it?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I'm sorry, I have absolutely no idea what you are writing
> >> >>>>>> about. Could you find someone to translate it into American?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>> Septic tank = yank
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> duh - colonials
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Um, the cultural education is nice but what's it got to do
> >> >>>> with electrical connections to a battery holder? Bizarre is
> >> >>>> fun but at least I try to keep my jokes within the subject
> >> >>>> matter being discussed. 8-)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>> Did you not read my post about 10 lines above ?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'll type it again without sarcasm or pisstaking
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Excuse me, but is the OP a Septic or English ?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If he/she/it is English, it's bugger all use pointing them at Septic
> >> >>> outlets, is it?"
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Capiche, ragazzo ?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Any references to Yank suppliers were for examples ONLY.
> >> >> Sometimes a picture can help one communicate with those
> >> >> who speak another language. 8-)
> >> >>
> >> > Septics.for example
> >> >
> >> > ha ha
> >> >
> >>
> >> Slimy Limeys. 8-)
> >
> >
> > Bunch of flaming queens.
>
> Ah - the whinings of the colonial underclass

That's a very good example of why most people with brains left Europe
for 'The new World'.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Samsung LTN325W 32"LCD TV video tearing
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/5d2824c11ad8c7bb?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 4:08 pm
From: "Gordon S. Hlavenka"

Color is a bit flat, with noticeable shadows to the right of images.
Sometimes clears up on its own after an hour or so. I'm haven't been
inside a TV in quite a while -- certainly not these newfangled LCD
things :-) so I'm hoping I can get some pointers before I crack the case.

At the moment my plan is to run it with the back off until the picture
clears up, then go exploring with a can of freeze spray.

Other/better ideas?

--
Gordon S. Hlavenka O- http://www.crashelex.com
"I might have run 'amok' against society; but I preferred that society
should run 'amok' against me, it being the desperate party." - Thoreau

==============================================================================
TOPIC: microwave trays
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/48ce5d48ee37a1bf?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 8:11 pm
From: David Lesher

Does anyone sell generic glass trays for microwaves?

I have a) a dead microwave b) a good one lacking a tray.
As you can surely guess, a's try will not fit in b.
And the manufacturer's price is somethink like $40.

I was thinking someone might sell same by size...
--
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 20 2010 8:23 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

David Lesher wrote:
>
> Does anyone sell generic glass trays for microwaves?
>
> I have a) a dead microwave b) a good one lacking a tray.
> As you can surely guess, a's try will not fit in b.
> And the manufacturer's price is somethink like $40.
>
> I was thinking someone might sell same by size...

Do you have a local Freecycle group? I see lots of dead microwaves
offered on mine.

==============================================================================

You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sci.electronics.repair"
group.

To post to this group, visit http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair?hl=en

To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sci.electronics.repair+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com

To change the way you get mail from this group, visit:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/subscribe?hl=en

To report abuse, send email explaining the problem to abuse@googlegroups.com

==============================================================================
Google Groups: http://groups.google.com/?hl=en

Electronics

sci.electronics.repair - 25 new messages in 10 topics - digest

No Response to "sci.electronics.repair - 25 new messages in 10 topics - digest"

Post a Comment

Blog Roll

Blog Archive