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* What is the fifth transistor likely for? - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/cbdab6f7f9577f6d?hl=en
* Sony XR-C5300, car radio -failed tuner block - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/1957e53a2d1f64bd?hl=en
* ACTRESS NUDE PICTURES AND VIDEOS HERE - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/d828a20d864913c1?hl=en
* Deoxit on "pots"? - 9 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/a3f743a7dd8ff4bf?hl=en
* Laptop not charging. - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/3f52116e8141f1a4?hl=en
* Sexy Indian Babes - 1 messages, 1 author
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* And today's little bit of time-wasting lead-free nonsense ... - 2 messages,
2 authors
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* instructor's solutions manual for Fundamentals of Engineering Economics 2nd
E by Chan S. Park - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/aa7d62768fa3280a?hl=en
* Intel "asked" to sell faulty chips - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/cf4be05bbe67d3b2?hl=en

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TOPIC: What is the fifth transistor likely for?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/cbdab6f7f9577f6d?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 7 2011 9:18 pm
From: mm


On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 01:23:08 +0100, Sjouke Burry
<burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote:

>mm wrote:
>> I was junking a moderately priced combo CD, AM/FM/Casette, from 1998,
>> that I got out of the trash and which wouldn't play CDs anymore, and
>> it had an array of five output trnasisttors, instead of the usual
>> four. All are the same size, on one big heat sink. No schematic
>> of course.
>>
>> The part numbers are obscured but I can see the ends of several.
>> 1 B1370
>> 2 B1020
>> 3 B1415 (or 01415, or D1415, or ?1415
>> 4 B1020 same as 2
>> 5 same as 3
>>
>> What is the fifth transistor likely for?
>>
>> Don't put a lot of work in to this. The device is junked/trashed
>> already.
>Temperature measurement.
>Used to keep the bias where it belongs.

Thanks all. Very interesting ideas. Maybe it wasn't as cheap as I
thought it was. But I had no use for it. I just like to look at
things and fix them when I can.


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 3:24 am
From: "Mark Zacharias"


"Sjouke Burry" <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote in message
news:4d508cec$0$8915$703f8584@textnews.kpn.nl...
> mm wrote:
>> I was junking a moderately priced combo CD, AM/FM/Casette, from 1998,
>> that I got out of the trash and which wouldn't play CDs anymore, and
>> it had an array of five output trnasisttors, instead of the usual
>> four. All are the same size, on one big heat sink. No schematic
>> of course.
>>
>> The part numbers are obscured but I can see the ends of several.
>> 1 B1370
>> 2 B1020
>> 3 B1415 (or 01415, or D1415, or ?1415 4 B1020 same as 2
>> 5 same as 3 What is the fifth transistor likely for? Don't put a lot
>> of work in to this. The device is junked/trashed
>> already.
> Temperature measurement.
> Used to keep the bias where it belongs.


Doubtful. As Arfa mentioned, probably a regulator (voltage, not temp). Quite
common to mount on the same heatsink as the output transistors.

Mark Z.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 7:22 am
From: Adrian C


On 08/02/2011 05:18, mm wrote:
> Thanks all. Very interesting ideas. Maybe it wasn't as cheap as I
> thought it was. But I had no use for it. I just like to look at
> things and fix them when I can.

There is an dramatic element of keeping us in suspense here :-)

Could you give a clue to the make / model for some of the clever peeps
to find a schematic on this?

--
Adrian C


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 9:28 am
From: "Arfa Daily"


"Mark Zacharias" <mark_zacharias@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:4d512809$0$10821$c3e8da3$eb767761@news.astraweb.com...
> "Sjouke Burry" <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote in message
> news:4d508cec$0$8915$703f8584@textnews.kpn.nl...
>> mm wrote:
>>> I was junking a moderately priced combo CD, AM/FM/Casette, from 1998,
>>> that I got out of the trash and which wouldn't play CDs anymore, and
>>> it had an array of five output trnasisttors, instead of the usual
>>> four. All are the same size, on one big heat sink. No schematic
>>> of course.
>>>
>>> The part numbers are obscured but I can see the ends of several.
>>> 1 B1370
>>> 2 B1020
>>> 3 B1415 (or 01415, or D1415, or ?1415 4 B1020 same as 2
>>> 5 same as 3 What is the fifth transistor likely for? Don't put a lot
>>> of work in to this. The device is junked/trashed
>>> already.
>> Temperature measurement.
>> Used to keep the bias where it belongs.
>
>
> Doubtful. As Arfa mentioned, probably a regulator (voltage, not temp).
> Quite common to mount on the same heatsink as the output transistors.
>
> Mark Z.

Ha ! Thanks Mark. I was beginning to think that no one had understood
exactly what I said ... :-)

Arfa

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 1:14 pm
From: Meat Plow


On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 17:28:49 +0000, Arfa Daily wrote:

> "Mark Zacharias" <mark_zacharias@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:4d512809$0$10821$c3e8da3$eb767761@news.astraweb.com...
>> "Sjouke Burry" <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote in message
>> news:4d508cec$0$8915$703f8584@textnews.kpn.nl...
>>> mm wrote:
>>>> I was junking a moderately priced combo CD, AM/FM/Casette, from 1998,
>>>> that I got out of the trash and which wouldn't play CDs anymore, and
>>>> it had an array of five output trnasisttors, instead of the usual
>>>> four. All are the same size, on one big heat sink. No schematic
>>>> of course.
>>>>
>>>> The part numbers are obscured but I can see the ends of several.
>>>> 1 B1370
>>>> 2 B1020
>>>> 3 B1415 (or 01415, or D1415, or ?1415 4 B1020 same as 2 5
>>>> same as 3 What is the fifth transistor likely for? Don't put a lot
>>>> of work in to this. The device is junked/trashed already.
>>> Temperature measurement.
>>> Used to keep the bias where it belongs.
>>
>>
>> Doubtful. As Arfa mentioned, probably a regulator (voltage, not temp).
>> Quite common to mount on the same heatsink as the output transistors.
>>
>> Mark Z.
>
> Ha ! Thanks Mark. I was beginning to think that no one had understood
> exactly what I said ... :-)
>
> Arfa

I knew what you said. There shouldn't be a need to compensate for temps
in something that doesn't put out a lot of wattage in the first place.


--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

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TOPIC: Sony XR-C5300, car radio -failed tuner block
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/1957e53a2d1f64bd?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 3:08 am
From: "Mark Zacharias"


"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
news:iip4r5$h4f$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Chuck <ch@deja.net> wrote in message
> news:lu10l616sepoipln3jfs04c0175uk489fv@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 19:20:39 -0600, "Mark Zacharias"
>> <mark_zacharias@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> >"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:iijkvl$g3t$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> >> Owner likes the 2 SW bands, other than find a broken one or related
> model
>> >> also with the same tuner TUX-020 , any ideas?
>> >> Courtesy of some Danish and Polish threads someone found out that the
> 80
>> >> pin
>> >> Philips tuner IC TEA6842H is likely the same as the one badged Sony
>> >> 8-759-653-23 in this tuner. All DC at the tuner 19 pins agree with
>> >> Sony
>> >> Schema and rails, Xtal lines etc agree with the TEA... datasheet.
>> >> There
> is
>> >> local Xtal osc, serial data and clock line signals on engaging "SEEK"
>> >> ,
>> >> front display shows changing f but the TEA pin 42 tuning V stays at
>> >> 0.045V.
>> >> Nothing amiss DVMing around the variable cap diode , pushing IC pins
>> >> if
>> >> loose, and no bad ESR local caps. Whatever occured happened in a
>> >> garage
>> >> during a cold spell of weather, vehicle rarely used.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >Try bringing in an external tuning voltage. If by varying this voltage
> you
>> >can get an IF output from the front end (and receive a channel at that
>> >point...) then you know the front end transistors etc are OK and you
> either
>> >have a bad PLL chip or no oscillator sample going to the PLL chip.
>> >
>> >Mark Z.
>>
>>
>> Just one more thing to check. Once you tune in a station, remove the
>> tuning voltage source. If the station stays tuned for a few seconds,
>> then you'll know the problem isn't caused by leaky varicaps. If the
>> frequency immediately drifts, the varicaps need to be replaced. Chuck
>
> Incidently the radio data system works back to the display so even less
> likely corrupted serial link going the other way.
> Cutting my applied tuning voltage , the station goes off tune immediately.
> I've not managed to get my head around the control system - a chicken and
> egg situation ? Could a leaky varicap lead ,around the houses , to failure
> to have an applied tuning voltage through the chain of VCO / PPL etc ?
>
>


I vote for the PLL chip. If the varicap were leaky, you'd see some voltage
there as you tried to tune; I've seen this just limit the tuned frequency to
say 95.1. If the cap were very leaky, even applying an external voltage
wouldn't get you a station. The varicap bleeds off quickly mainly because
it's capacitance is very low to start with. Most PLL chips have a couple
buffer transistors between the tuning output of the chip and the actual
front end. You can look there, but my guess is you'll see nothing.

Mark Z.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 4:28 am
From: Maha Lingam <2addsite@gmail.com>


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TOPIC: Deoxit on "pots"?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/a3f743a7dd8ff4bf?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 5:34 am
From: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"


On another list we have been discussing using Caig DeOxit on pots (e.g.
Volume, balance, etc controls).

Caig has another product called "Fader Lube", which I assume is designed
for such a use.

The question I have is has anyone used the regular DeOxit on such controls
and the results? A web search yielded many hits of people using DeOxit and
having good results, and even a YouTube videos of it.

It's hard to tell from the postings, and the videos, how many the people
posting have done. Some of them are obviously people who have done
one or two, and others are not. I'm interested in hearing long term
experience.

Thanks in advance,

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it.


== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 6:44 am
From: Chuck


On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC), "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
<gsm@mendelson.com> wrote:

>On another list we have been discussing using Caig DeOxit on pots (e.g.
>Volume, balance, etc controls).
>
>Caig has another product called "Fader Lube", which I assume is designed
>for such a use.
>
>The question I have is has anyone used the regular DeOxit on such controls
>and the results? A web search yielded many hits of people using DeOxit and
>having good results, and even a YouTube videos of it.
>
>It's hard to tell from the postings, and the videos, how many the people
>posting have done. Some of them are obviously people who have done
>one or two, and others are not. I'm interested in hearing long term
>experience.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Geoff.


In rare cases, deoxit will cause the slidepots to slightly bind so I
use Fader Lube on them and deoxit on rotating pots. Chuck


== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 6:54 am
From: "N_Cook"


Geoffrey S. Mendelson <gsm@mendelson.com> wrote in message
news:slrnil2hhf.3qc.gsm@cable.mendelson.com...
> On another list we have been discussing using Caig DeOxit on pots (e.g.
> Volume, balance, etc controls).
>
> Caig has another product called "Fader Lube", which I assume is designed
> for such a use.
>
> The question I have is has anyone used the regular DeOxit on such controls
> and the results? A web search yielded many hits of people using DeOxit and
> having good results, and even a YouTube videos of it.
>
> It's hard to tell from the postings, and the videos, how many the people
> posting have done. Some of them are obviously people who have done
> one or two, and others are not. I'm interested in hearing long term
> experience.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Geoff.
>
> --
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
> Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it.

Why is it everyone else gets corroded or dirty pots and I always get the
worn ones?
Then there is the plague of microscopic Alps ones where the grease migrates
from shaft area to the wiper area and lifts the hair-thin metal from the no
sign of wear resistive track - 6 on one 2 yearold Korg last week, unusable
because all with this failing


== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 7:24 am
From: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"


N_Cook wrote:
> Why is it everyone else gets corroded or dirty pots and I always get the
> worn ones?
> Then there is the plague of microscopic Alps ones where the grease migrates
> from shaft area to the wiper area and lifts the hair-thin metal from the no
> sign of wear resistive track - 6 on one 2 yearold Korg last week, unusable
> because all with this failing

What do you do to repair them? Replace?

Thanks, Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it.


== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 7:24 am
From: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"


Chuck wrote:
> In rare cases, deoxit will cause the slidepots to slightly bind so I
> use Fader Lube on them and deoxit on rotating pots. Chuck

Thanks, I never thought of that.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it.


== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 9:36 am
From: Fred


"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> wrote in
news:slrnil2hhf.3qc.gsm@cable.mendelson.com:

> On another list we have been discussing using Caig DeOxit on pots
> (e.g. Volume, balance, etc controls).
>
> Caig has another product called "Fader Lube", which I assume is
> designed for such a use.
>
> The question I have is has anyone used the regular DeOxit on such
> controls and the results? A web search yielded many hits of people
> using DeOxit and having good results, and even a YouTube videos of it.
>
> It's hard to tell from the postings, and the videos, how many the
> people posting have done. Some of them are obviously people who have
> done one or two, and others are not. I'm interested in hearing long
> term experience.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Geoff.
>

Decades ago, I met an old organ repair technician at a Roland tech
seminar to become a certified Roland repair station. Most of the rest of
the participants were much younger than us, so we gravitated together and
had lunch.

I was spending a fortune each year buying products like DeOxit to clean
organ controls, the thousands of metal to metal contacts before
everything became conductive rubber. Talking about the price of this
stuff, which would make you think a pharmaceutical company produced it in
a lab, he said something to me that simply shocked me.

"Hell, you're wasting your money on all that crap. I've been cleaning
hifi, PA and organ contacts with WD40, which is very cheap and easy to
find without going to the most expensive electronic repair company and
paying their exhorbitant prices. I've been doing it for lots of years
with no returns or complaints. I think because it leaves a lube residue
on anything it touches the contacts stayed cleaner because they weren't
exposed to the moisture in the air."

We both had to fight the horribly humid coastal swamp gas we live in, he
in NC and I in SC. So, I had some old organs that were just awful coming
up so I tried it. I used WD40 ever since with fantastic results. It
makes a 40 year old, almost worn out expression pedal pot work like new
with audio as smooth as glass. Some of those pots are nearly unobtanium
because of their queer shafts and mountings.

Another nice thing about WD40 is its effects upon dragging or frozen pot
bearings, of course. One drop in a pot bearing and you wonder why noone
did it instead of twisting off the knob!

The new WD40 isn't even flammable any more. I'm still using it, but now
that I'm retired not so often...(c;]

Try it on something really nasty and see for yourselves. Crap on this
$20-40 a can nonsense. The cleaners are more expensive than a new pot!

.....available at fine hardware emporiums, worldwide.....
....and WalMart!

If it'll make you feel better, buy it from Ace Hdwe and pay double.


== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 9:40 am
From: Fred


"N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote in news:iirleg$cio$1@news.eternal-
september.org:

> Korg

My condolences on the Korg. Here in the USA they fled and there are no
parts so we have to go through their US parts distributor,
tubesandmore.com, which is a fine company but the parts are in Japan and
they only order when there's a pile, not one at a time. tubesandmore.com,
AKA Antique Radio Supply, Tempe, AZ, is a great company, but getting Korg
parts is measured in Months, not weeks or days.

I service Korg keyboards since the 1980s. Nice stuff, no support.

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 12:48 pm
From: GS


On Feb 8, 9:44 am, Chuck <c...@deja.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC), "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
>
>
>
> <g...@mendelson.com> wrote:
> >On another list we have been discussing using Caig DeOxit on pots (e.g.
> >Volume, balance, etc controls).
>
> >Caig has another product called "Fader Lube", which I assume is designed
> >for such a use.
>
> >The question I have is has anyone used the regular DeOxit on such controls
> >and the results? A web search yielded many hits of people using DeOxit and
> >having good results, and even a YouTube videos of it.
>
> >It's hard to tell from the postings, and the videos, how many the people
> >posting have done. Some of them are obviously people who have done
> >one or two, and others are not. I'm interested in hearing long term
> >experience.
>
> >Thanks in advance,
>
> >Geoff.
>
> In rare cases, deoxit will cause the slidepots to slightly bind so I
> use  Fader Lube on them and deoxit on rotating pots.  Chuck

Its easy to screw up sliders. i have used white grease and heavy duty
silicon oil to relube just the metal rails.
There used to be a spray white grease product for pots. I'm NOT
talking about Blue Stuff.

greg


== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 12:50 pm
From: GS


On Feb 8, 12:36 pm, Fred <nob...@home.com> wrote:
> "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <g...@mendelson.com> wrote innews:slrnil2hhf.3qc.gsm@cable.mendelson.com:
>
>
>
> > On another list we have been discussing using Caig DeOxit on pots
> > (e.g. Volume, balance, etc controls).
>
> > Caig has another product called "Fader Lube", which I assume is
> > designed for such a use.
>
> > The question I have is has anyone used the regular DeOxit on such
> > controls and the results? A web search yielded many hits of people
> > using DeOxit and having good results, and even a YouTube videos of it.
>
> > It's hard to tell from the postings, and the videos, how many the
> > people posting have done. Some of them are obviously people who have
> > done one or two, and others are not. I'm interested in hearing long
> > term experience.
>
> > Thanks in advance,
>
> > Geoff.
>
> Decades ago, I met an old organ repair technician at a Roland tech
> seminar to become a certified Roland repair station.  Most of the rest of
> the participants were much younger than us, so we gravitated together and
> had lunch.
>
> I was spending a fortune each year buying products like DeOxit to clean
> organ controls, the thousands of metal to metal contacts before
> everything became conductive rubber.  Talking about the price of this
> stuff, which would make you think a pharmaceutical company produced it in
> a lab, he said something to me that simply shocked me.
>
> "Hell, you're wasting your money on all that crap.  I've been cleaning
> hifi, PA and organ contacts with WD40, which is very cheap and easy to
> find without going to the most expensive electronic repair company and
> paying their exhorbitant prices.  I've been doing it for lots of years
> with no returns or complaints.  I think because it leaves a lube residue
> on anything it touches the contacts stayed cleaner because they weren't
> exposed to the moisture in the air."
>
> We both had to fight the horribly humid coastal swamp gas we live in, he
> in NC and I in SC.  So, I had some old organs that were just awful coming
> up so I tried it.  I used WD40 ever since with fantastic results.  It
> makes a 40 year old, almost worn out expression pedal pot work like new
> with audio as smooth as glass.  Some of those pots are nearly unobtanium
> because of their queer shafts and mountings.
>
> Another nice thing about WD40 is its effects upon dragging or frozen pot
> bearings, of course.  One drop in a pot bearing and you wonder why noone
> did it instead of twisting off the knob!
>
> The new WD40 isn't even flammable any more.  I'm still using it, but now
> that I'm retired not so often...(c;]
>
> Try it on something really nasty and see for yourselves.  Crap on this
> $20-40 a can nonsense.  The cleaners are more expensive than a new pot!
>
> .....available at fine hardware emporiums, worldwide.....
> ....and WalMart!
>
> If it'll make you feel better, buy it from Ace Hdwe and pay double.

If you like WD-40 you will LOVE CRC 2-26

greg

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 8:04 am
From: Jim Yanik


T i m <news@spaced.me.uk> wrote in
news:2s61l6lcohoeld1692uo1dsnt9vpahv0n2@4ax.com:

> On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 07:49:33 +0800, who where <noone@home.net> wrote:
>
>
>>>> On first use - as they
>>>>explained - the Vostro reported a non-genuine PSU but has worked fine
>>>>for the last two years.
>>>
>>>Including charging the battery you mean?
>>
>>Yes
>
> Ok ta.
>
> Thinking outside the box a bit and looking at this external /
> universal charger ... if I had a known good Dell battery with the same
> parameters as required by the laptop but that just didn't fit /in/ the
> laptop a short extension lead might do the trick. Certainly sufficient
> enough to ensure it /was/ a battery problem before buying another one?
>
> Cheers, T i m
>
> p.s. When I worked for British Telecom (and then later Kodak on their
> Microfilm side) we regularly used 'external' cards / cables to allow
> us to check the card / module whilst connected to the machine but so
> we could still get to it.
>

perhaps you mean "extender" cards or cables?

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 2:36 pm
From: T i m


On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:04:03 -0600, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov>
wrote:

>T i m <news@spaced.me.uk> wrote in
>news:2s61l6lcohoeld1692uo1dsnt9vpahv0n2@4ax.com:
>
>> On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 07:49:33 +0800, who where <noone@home.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>> On first use - as they
>>>>>explained - the Vostro reported a non-genuine PSU but has worked fine
>>>>>for the last two years.
>>>>
>>>>Including charging the battery you mean?
>>>
>>>Yes
>>
>> Ok ta.
>>
>> Thinking outside the box a bit and looking at this external /
>> universal charger ... if I had a known good Dell battery with the same
>> parameters as required by the laptop but that just didn't fit /in/ the
>> laptop a short extension lead might do the trick. Certainly sufficient
>> enough to ensure it /was/ a battery problem before buying another one?
>>
>> Cheers, T i m
>>
>> p.s. When I worked for British Telecom (and then later Kodak on their
>> Microfilm side) we regularly used 'external' cards / cables to allow
>> us to check the card / module whilst connected to the machine but so
>> we could still get to it.
>>
>
>perhaps you mean "extender" cards or cables?

Probably but the function of the thing was to make the card / module
appear /outside/ the unit so it sorta works for me. ;-)

I was thinking that I only need an old (compatible/ Dell) laptop base
/ mobo and I've already got a dead battery and I should be able to put
something together (in the best Frankenstein stylee). ;-)

Assuming these batteries only report 'I'm a Dell battery' rather than
"I'm a Dell battery for a Studio 1535 with a pink lid ..."? ;-(

Cheers, T i m


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 3:12 pm
From: T i m


On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:37:34 +0000, Baron <baron@linuxmaniac.net>
wrote:


>
>Ah. I envisioned a unit that the battery was placed into rather than a
>connector on a flying lead. I would be interested in the pin out for
>that. :-)

http://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/DELL_D500_D600_battery

Cheers, T i m

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 9:50 am
From: "Arfa Daily"


A big heavy Quad sub. It's been so long since I've seen anything new with
the Quad name on it, I wasn't even sure that they were still going. Anyway,
this thing always worked in that the amplifier kept producing output, but
there was, at the very least, a background 'rustle' and at worst an
alarmingly loud crackle, that can't have been doing the internal bass driver
any good. Not affected by volume setting, so output or PSU. Nothing really
conclusive to be seen on a 'scope. When it was doing it, you could 'see' it
virtually anywhere, including on the output stage power rails, which were
bouncing around all over the place. It had a 'feel' of an intermittent
output transistor about it. Nothing physical such as heat, cold or vibration
would provoke it, so I initially rejected thoughts of bad joints. There are
four output Tr's in it - 2 x PNP and 2 x NPN , paralleled up, so I removed
one pair. No difference. Still worked perfectly well, and still had the
random crackle. So I swapped the first two transistors back in. No change.
Some time was then spent trying to prove where the noise was coming from,
without any positive results, Eventually, I decided that it might actually
be a bad joint. There was no indication that the board was built with
lead-free solder, other than the fact that the joints were conical and dull.

I set about doing a blanket re-solder, and quickly ran into trouble. I don't
know what on earth sort of solder they had used, but even on small joints,
my temperature controlled bench iron was struggling. I even wound it up full
to 450 deg, and it still wasn't good. On larger joints like the smoothing
caps and the very chunky rectifier diodes, it wasn't having any of it at
all. Eventually, I had to dig out my 45 year old 140 watt Weller gun. At
least that made short work of reflowing the joints, but of course, you've
got to then be twice as careful about running joints into one another, as
the tip is really too big for this sort of job.

In the end, when it was all back together, it was silent, so I have to
conclude that it *was* a bad joint. But what makes it so frustrating from a
commercial 'let's make some money from this repair' point of view, is that
unlike conventional leaded solder joints when they go bad, you just can't
provoke lead-free bad joints to show themselves by any of the time-tested
and trusted methods.

I hate the stuff with a passion >:-(

Arfa

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 11:04 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"


> I hate [lead-free solder] with a passion.

This is one issue I won't disagree with you on. We're just seeing the
beginning of serious servicing problems.

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TOPIC: Intel "asked" to sell faulty chips
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 10:40 am
From: bob urz


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bob


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 8 2011 3:41 pm
From: Sylvia Else


On 9/02/2011 5:40 AM, bob urz wrote:
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> bob

Well, a chip is only faulty if it does not meet its specification, or
will have an abnormally high failure rate if used within its specification.

So if Intel changes the spec on these chips, sells them for use within
the revised spec, and the chips won't then fail at an abnormal rate,
then they are not faulty.

Sylvia.


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