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TOPIC: Hai"open my veb page enter free register"
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 12:42 am
From: Gandhimathy Mahendran

http://123maza.com/75/arrange451/

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TOPIC: Looking For Usable Multimeter - Cheap
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 2:43 am
From: "Dave Plowman (News)"

In article <U9ednZqye5aIv_bQnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I never claim to be perfect.

Just as well. ;-)

--
*If a thing is worth doing, wouldn't it have been done already?

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 11:51 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
>
> In article ?U9ednZqye5aIv_bQnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@earthlink.com?,
> Michael A. Terrell ?mike.terrell@earthlink.net? wrote:
> ? I never claim to be perfect.
>
> Just as well. ;-)

When someone claims to be perfect, I ask to see the nail holes.

--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid� on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 12:39 pm
From: David Nebenzahl

On 2/28/2011 11:51 AM Michael A. Terrell spake thus:

> "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
>
>> In article ?U9ednZqye5aIv_bQnZ2dnUVZ_oednZ2d@earthlink.com?,
>> Michael A. Terrell ?mike.terrell@earthlink.net? wrote:
>>
>>> ? I never claim to be perfect.
>>
>> Just as well. ;-)
>
> When someone claims to be perfect, I ask to see the nail holes.

Ha!

Your one-line responses are generally annoying, but this one's a zinger!

--
The phrase "jump the shark" itself jumped the shark about a decade ago.

- Usenet

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TOPIC: HOT ACTRESS SO SEXY VIDEOS AND ROMANTIC PICTURES HERE
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 3:09 am
From: success all

http://www.love4indianpeople.blogspot.com/

http://www.love4indianpeople.blogspot.com

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TOPIC: Slightly odd output stage configuration. Thoughts ?
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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 3:09 am
From: "Phil Allison"

"Wild_Bill"
>
> One thing that I have discovered recently, is that there are a huge number
> of PV amp users, and lots of forum discussions about many modifications
> (some that have produced results, and some that don't) and also repairs.
> You're probably already aware that many forum discussions wrt electronic
> circuits can include unintentional errors and/or other misleading info
> (this mod I came up with is the ultimate! for example), so that much of
> the forum info needs to be pondered and then either accepted or rejected
> by one's better judgement and/or experience.. and compared to the rule: if
> it werks, don't fuck with it.

** That a good rule to live by....

>
> As I've only recently started dabbling in this area, I've noticed one
> thing that's prevalent.. practially every component in/on guitars and amps
> have been tampered with and replaced, and the majority of reports of the
> actors claim that the acts produce amazing results.

** But they *would* say that - wouldn't they ?

.... Phil

== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 4:17 am
From: "Mark Zacharias"

"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:y8Dap.109642$ud6.56257@newsfe19.ams2...
>
>
> "Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
> news:8t084vFsvuU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Mark Zacharias"
>>
>>
>>> I am proud to call Geoff Darby, (Arfa) a friend.
>
>
> Why thank you. Mark ! And back atcha :-)
>
>
>>
>>
>> ** My god you must be a desperate poofter to lick the bullshitting fool's
>> arse in public like that.
>>
>> Makes YOU into a moronic troll too.
>>
>> Piss off.
>>
>>
>> .... Phil
>>
>
> Such a shame, Mark. Philip is obviously desperate to have someone offer
> the same sentiment to him. Must be hard to have everyone thinking that
> you're a twat ...
>
> Arfa

I "plonked" Allison long ago. Not something I do often, either.

Mark Z.

== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 4:26 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"

"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:8t080pFsa3U1@mid.individual.net...

> "William Sommerwanker"

> ** Bill - you are just another boring usenet wanker,
> a TROLL and a complete fuckwit.

> D R O P DEAD

My arrows must be hitting their mark, if I am requested to decease. *

You can always spot the really stupid ones -- they poke fun at my name.

* Have you ever noticed "deceased" is self-contradictory? A "deceased"
person would be someone who's come back to life.

== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 4:29 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"

> Even his blow-up sheep are ignoring him.

To change the subject... That reminds me of what was arguably Karnak's best
"reading".

Karnak (holding envelope to head): "Sis. Boom. Bah." (opening envelope)
"What is the sound of an exploding sheep?"

== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 4:31 am
From: "Phil Allison"

"William Sommerwanker"

** Bill - you are just another boring, NARCISSISTIC usenet wanker,
a TROLL and a complete fuckwit.

Get cancer and fucking DIE

== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 4:33 am
From: "Phil Allison"

"Mark Zacharias"

** Lumps of autistic, sub human shit like YOU are a dime a dozen.

And the cause of ALL the trouble on this planet.

..... Phil

== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 9:42 am
From: Meat Plow

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:31:29 +1100, Phil Allison wrote:

> "William Sommerwanker"
>
>
> ** Bill - you are just another boring, NARCISSISTIC usenet wanker,
> a TROLL and a complete fuckwit.
>
>
> Get cancer and fucking DIE

How about wishing death upon me? Am I not good enough anymore?

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 9:53 am
From: Meat Plow

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:15:34 -0500, Wild_Bill wrote:

> I haven't any background experience to make suggestions, but this
> perplexing circuit you're seeing sounds a like the schematic I looked at
> for the *Peavey Mace A* series (6, 6L6GC output tubes). That's sounds
> like how the schematic was drawn, although I haven't see the actual
> circuit layout of that model.. separate resistors were used for each
> tube of one pair.. then another pair was wired direct, while the third
> pair had 2 more separate resistors shown between those pairs (appearing
> like the 2 resistors were wired in series between those 2 pairs).
>
> There seem to be numerous similarities in many PV amp model schematics
> of the power output sections, but then some specific oddities in a
> couple of models' schematics that look out of place (to me, anyway).
>
> One thing that I have discovered recently, is that there are a huge
> number of PV amp users, and lots of forum discussions about many
> modifications (some that have produced results, and some that don't) and
> also repairs. You're probably already aware that many forum discussions
> wrt electronic circuits can include unintentional errors and/or other
> misleading info (this mod I came up with is the ultimate! for example),
> so that much of the forum info needs to be pondered and then either
> accepted or rejected by one's better judgement and/or experience.. and
> compared to the rule: if it werks, don't fuck with it.
>
> As I've only recently started dabbling in this area, I've noticed one
> thing that's prevalent.. practially every component in/on guitars and
> amps have been tampered with and replaced, and the majority of reports
> of the actors claim that the acts produce amazing results.

I own a 1975 PV Artist 1x15". I bought it back in the mid 80's. PV didn't
deviate much from this design in their later years. I also own a PV MX -
VTX 1x12". Again not much change as for PV the apple never seems to fall
far from the tree.

My current guitar amp config is a PV Tube Fex FX/stereo preamp into a
Studiomaster 700D. That sits on top a PV 4x12" cabinet wired in stereo.
Two stock PV 12's and two Jackson (red cone) 12's. I got the cabinet for
a song and a dance and it sounds as good as any Marshall 1960 cabinet
I've ever played through.

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 10:16 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"

>> Get cancer and fucking DIE

> How about wishing death upon me? Am I not
> good enough anymore?

You're going to have to come up with a remark that really strikes home. I
lucked out.

== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 10:38 am
From: Meat Plow

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:16:30 -0800, William Sommerwerck wrote:

>>> Get cancer and fucking DIE
>
>> How about wishing death upon me? Am I not good enough anymore?
>
> You're going to have to come up with a remark that really strikes home.
> I lucked out.

Phil is unpredictable in his lashing out. Sometimes the slightest thing
sets him off. Last year he said I should die by a shotgun. I just
wondered if his feelings have changed.

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 11:55 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

William Sommerwerck wrote:
>
> ? Even his blow-up sheep are ignoring him.
>
> To change the subject... That reminds me of what was arguably Karnak's best
> "reading".
>
> Karnak (holding envelope to head): "Sis. Boom. Bah." (opening envelope)
> "What is the sound of an exploding sheep?"

Karnak always was weird. ;-)

--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid� on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

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TOPIC: Electrolytics blow after 1 hr
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 3:19 am
From: Mike Tomlinson

In article <ipCdnVpbGqRrm_XQnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Michael A.
Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes

> All that proves is that you live in a 'nanny state'.

Actually, it proves that we have a well designed and well thought out
premises wiring code which protects people and the appliances they use.
And we can actually boil a kettle in a reasonable amount of time.

What are the figures for electrical fires in the USA again?

--
Mike Tomlinson

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 9:25 am
From: Jeff Liebermann

On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:19:25 +0000, Mike Tomlinson
<mike@jasper.org.uk> wrote:

>What are the figures for electrical fires in the USA again?

310 deaths last year. About 1/3 of the electrical fires involve
electrical shorts of some sort. Even with fuses in the power plugs,
shorts in the walls will have the same effect in both systems:
<http://www.interfire.org/features/electric_wiring_faults.asp>
...for 1993 - 1997 are that 41,200 home structure fires
per year are attributed to �electrical distribution.� These
electrical distribution fires account for 336 civilian deaths,
1446 civilian injuries, and $643.9 million in direct property
damage per year.

<http://www.nfpa.org/assets/files//PDF/Proceedings/Ahrens_presentation.pdf>

<http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/citizens/home_fire_prev/electrical.shtm>
During a typical year, home electrical problems account for
28,600 fires and $1.1 billion in property losses. 53% of
residential electrical fires involve electrical wiring.

I couldn't find any statistics for UK.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 11:53 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Mike Tomlinson wrote:
>
> In article ?ipCdnVpbGqRrm_XQnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@earthlink.com?, Michael A.
> Terrell ?mike.terrell@earthlink.net? writes
>
> ? All that proves is that you live in a 'nanny state'.
>
> Actually, it proves that we have a well designed and well thought out
> premises wiring code which protects people and the appliances they use.
> And we can actually boil a kettle in a reasonable amount of time.
>
> What are the figures for electrical fires in the USA again?

They are available online if you really care.

What are the figures for the UK?

--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid� on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

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TOPIC: ANGELINA JOLIE HOT VIDEOS AND ENJOYING SCENES HERE
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 5:51 am
From: devi vithya

http://www.cinemaulagam.org

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TOPIC: Fender SPL 9000 , 1997 slave amp
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 7:06 am
From: "N_Cook"

About half the solder joints on the input sub-board are bad. A .25 and M&F
XLR each ch with no obvious reason why, as all sockets are individually
fixed to stout chassis metal . Even the never been used quarter inch sockets
have bad solder joints. The solder looks good otherwise.

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TOPIC: What is the fifth transistor likely for?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 8:57 am
From: mm

On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 15:22:30 +0000, Adrian C <email@here.invalid>
wrote:

>On 08/02/2011 05:18, mm wrote:
>> Thanks all. Very interesting ideas. Maybe it wasn't as cheap as I
>> thought it was. But I had no use for it. I just like to look at
>> things and fix them when I can.
>
>There is an dramatic element of keeping us in suspense here :-)
>
>Could you give a clue to the make / model for some of the clever peeps
>to find a schematic on this?

Sorry. I stopped reading the thread. By the time I first posted, I
had destroyed it. Don't remember the brand, much less the model.

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TOPIC: Washing machine motor won't start, bad triac ?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 9:17 am
From: Baron

Andre Majorel Inscribed thus:

> On 2011-02-26, Baron <baron@linuxmaniac.net> wrote:
>> Sylvia Else Inscribed thus:
>>
>>> I'd have to wonder whether one of the rotor windings has failed
>>> open-cicuit. I think that could even account for the sparks. The
>>> magnetic field for a winding that is becoming disconnected by the
>>> brush action has to collapse because the broken winding that's being
>>> connected cannot maintain the field.
>>
>> Sounds like OC segments on the comm...
>
> The old man and I don't know enough about motors to be sure but
> we did suspect something along the same lines.

Its easy enough to test. In the old days a buzz box was used, nowadays
no one bothers ! Its far cheaper just to throw it in the scrap box and
buy a new one.

I'll bet that if you look very carefully at the commutator segments, you
will find that one or more are loose and its likely that the loose
segment is OC.

> We thought that even if we determined which winding is damaged,
> attempting a fix would be risky and a lot of work.

Its very rare for the windings themselves to get damaged. Open or short
circuits at the commutator segments is very common.
I don't remember the last time I saw anybody repair a bad commutator !
Not on fractional motors/generators anyway.

> So we got a used (but working) motor from electrodocas.fr. That fixed
> it.
>
> Thanks folks.
>

I reckon that you took the best course of action. :-)

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 11:57 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Baron wrote:
>
> Andre Majorel Inscribed thus:
>
> ? On 2011-02-26, Baron ?baron@linuxmaniac.net? wrote:
> ?? Sylvia Else Inscribed thus:
> ??
> ??? I'd have to wonder whether one of the rotor windings has failed
> ??? open-cicuit. I think that could even account for the sparks. The
> ??? magnetic field for a winding that is becoming disconnected by the
> ??? brush action has to collapse because the broken winding that's being
> ??? connected cannot maintain the field.
> ??
> ?? Sounds like OC segments on the comm...
> ?
> ? The old man and I don't know enough about motors to be sure but
> ? we did suspect something along the same lines.
>
> Its easy enough to test. In the old days a buzz box was used, nowadays
> no one bothers ! Its far cheaper just to throw it in the scrap box and
> buy a new one.

A 'Growler' was used to test the armature in a brush type motor.

--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid� on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 28 2011 1:04 pm
From: Baron

Michael A. Terrell Inscribed thus:

>
> Baron wrote:
>>
>> Andre Majorel Inscribed thus:
>>
>> ? On 2011-02-26, Baron ?baron@linuxmaniac.net? wrote:
>> ?? Sylvia Else Inscribed thus:
>> ??
>> ??? I'd have to wonder whether one of the rotor windings has failed
>> ??? open-cicuit. I think that could even account for the sparks. The
>> ??? magnetic field for a winding that is becoming disconnected by the
>> ??? brush action has to collapse because the broken winding that's
>> being ??? connected cannot maintain the field.
>> ??
>> ?? Sounds like OC segments on the comm...
>> ?
>> ? The old man and I don't know enough about motors to be sure but
>> ? we did suspect something along the same lines.
>>
>> Its easy enough to test. In the old days a buzz box was used,
>> nowadays no one bothers ! Its far cheaper just to throw it in the
>> scrap box and buy a new one.
>
>
> A 'Growler' was used to test the armature in a brush type motor.
>

Wow ! I haven't heard that term for a long time. Same kit or similar
though.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

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