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* Computer runs faster because it is soldered.. haha.. - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/a74e97b5f167a0e6?hl=en
* Nuisance fastners - winge - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/9108d595e22824ac?hl=en
* Bakelite Asbestos - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/b0be07665d15373b?hl=en
* Washing machine motor won't start, bad triac ? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/96d2b3fb706b3e62?hl=en

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TOPIC: Computer runs faster because it is soldered.. haha..
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/a74e97b5f167a0e6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 12 2011 7:09 pm
From: Joe

In article <4d571b3a$0$27531$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com>,
David Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote:

> On 2/12/2011 3:01 PM Jeff Liebermann spake thus:
>
> > Gone to find out what stinks in the shop. Probably a dead mouse.
>
> Maybe it's one of those unrepairable Mac mice, moldering in the corner
> underneath your bench ...

Youse guys are doing irreparable harm to this group's reputation for
linguistic punctiliousness.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 12 2011 8:38 pm
From: Jeff Liebermann

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:45:49 -0800, David Nebenzahl
<nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote:

>On 2/12/2011 3:01 PM Jeff Liebermann spake thus:
>
>> Gone to find out what stinks in the shop. Probably a dead mouse.
>
>Maybe it's one of those unrepairable Mac mice, moldering in the corner
>underneath your bench ...

Nope. The only mice around here are PC mice. See trophy collection
hanging on the closet door in the background. Unlike Apple mice, PC
mice don't stink.
<http://www.LearnByDestroying.com/panorama/jeffl.htm>
(Wait for the photo to load. Move mouse around photo).

It's definitely a dead mouse (Mus musculus). I think I found the
general area, but haven't found the dead mouse yet. Dinner tastes
like dead mouse. Retch.

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Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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TOPIC: Nuisance fastners - winge
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/9108d595e22824ac?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 12 2011 7:33 pm
From: kreed

On Feb 13, 3:54 am, John Robertson <s...@flippers.com> wrote:
> Sylvia Else wrote:
> > On 12/02/2011 3:51 PM, kreed wrote:
> >> On Feb 12, 2:22 pm, Sylvia Else<syl...@not.here.invalid>  wrote:
> >>> On 12/02/2011 2:43 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
>
> >>>> On 2011-02-11, Sylvia Else<syl...@not.here.invalid>    wrote:
>
> >>>>> A conventional pedestal fan blows in such a direction that when it's
> >>>>> placed as near as possible to a window, the fan blades are still
> >>>>> quite a
> >>>>> way from the cool air, and so the result is not as effective as it
> >>>>> might
> >>>>> be. If I could reverse the direction of flow, then I could also turn
> >>>>> then fan around, so that the blades would be much closer to the
> >>>>> window.
>
> >>>>> I considered simply building a duct, but the cost of materials was
> >>>>> excessive.
>
> >>>> I guess you didn't consider cardboard and packing tape then :)
> >>>> or a cheap plastic bucket?
>
> >>> The fan is too big for a plastic bucket. I considered cardboard but it
> >>> was far from clear to me that it was going to be strong enough without
> >>> bracing that would further complicate the task.
>
> >>> This isn't a research project. I was looking for a solution that would
> >>> definitely work, and be robust.
>
> >>> Sylvia.
>
> >> Some of those larger black plastic pot plant containers might be big
> >> enough, also are sturdy,
> >> UV resistant (since used outdoors in a garden).
>
> >> Cut a piece of plywood to fit the window gap, cut a hole in the ply
> >> suit the diameter
> >> of the pot, (and at the right height to suit the fan) cut the bottom
> >> out of the pot, and screw the pot to the ply.
>
> >> This might make a big enough, and very strong duct for relatively
> >> little cost.  IIRC those pots are sturdy enough
> >> so that they aren't likely to flap around in the wind. You can
> >> probably paint them any colour you like, if you don't like black
> >> colour.
>
> > It's an interesting idea. I'll have to look at what size pots are
> > available (and how much they weigh) next time I'm at the hardware store.
>
> > Mind you, plywood doesn't come cheap :(
>
> > Sylvia.
>
> Is "winge" the Australian rendition of "whinge"? Just asking as Folks
> from the USA spell colour or neighbour in an interesting way and I
> figured Downunders may take similar liberties...
>
> (ducking)
>
> John ;-#)#
>
> --
>     (Please post followups or tech enquiries to the newsgroup)
>   John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
>   Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
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No, its the same here, its just a spelling error

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TOPIC: Bakelite Asbestos
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/b0be07665d15373b?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 12 2011 8:13 pm
From: Smitty Two

In article <MdidnYkf2ZJUusvQnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@giganews.com>,
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> wrote:

> Smitty Two wrote:
> > In article <uvKdnefd0I0wgsnQnZ2dnUVZ_hCdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> > John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> wrote:
> >
> >> vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> >>> By some accounts the original bakelite was up to half asbestos (which
> >>> kind?
> >>> WHite or blue?). I saw online some electrical outlets made of bakelite,
> >>> and
> >>> I
> >>> was wondering if it really is bakelite, and if so if there is a new
> >>> bakelite
> >>> without asbestos? ANy clues?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Unless you are grinding the Bakelite product into a powder and snorting
> >> it I'd not worry about it...
> >>
> >> John :-#)#
> >
> > The wikipedia article should answer the OPs questions, but I can tell
> > you that machining phenolics is an easy way to produce snortable powder.
> > Covers the every square inch of the entire shop with a very fine dust.
>
> Granted but the original question was actually about old bakelite
> outlets - I do not think he was going to be machining them - rather it
> sounded like he wasn't sure if he should be concerned about them
> containing asbestos. Hence my somewhat flippant answer.
>
> John :-#)#

You played the thread drift card, I was just following suit ...

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 12 2011 8:56 pm
From: Jeff Liebermann

On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:58:09 +0000 (UTC),
vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

>By some accounts the original bakelite was up to half asbestos (which kind?
>WHite or blue?). I saw online some electrical outlets made of bakelite, and I
>was wondering if it really is bakelite, and if so if there is a new bakelite
>without asbestos? ANy clues?

It's your chance to get rich quick. For example:
<http://www.mesotheliomacenter.org/mesothelioma-news/2002/07/30/asbestos-verdict-nets-42-million-award-for-san-ramon-terminal-cancer-patient-is-the-first-involving-bakelite/>
Claim that you're suffering from cancer of the vocabulary, induced by
your proximity to asbestos infested bakelite electrical hardware, and
collect a small fortune. With asbestos claims, you don't even have to
prove medical damage, just exposure, as juries tend to assume that
there will eventually be health effects. Second hand exposure is also
actionable so be sure to get the relatives involved.

Incidentally, a few years ago, I sold a rental house with exterior
asbestos wallboard on the outside of the house. Prior to the sale, I
was incorrectly informed that I would need to contract with a
hazardous materials removal company that specialized in asbestos
removal and disposal. The initial low estimate was $35,000. Ouch.

The buyer was a general contractor and apparently knew more about the
asbestos situation than local planning department. He indicated that
it was better to leave things in place, and seal it under a layer of
exterior paneling, than to remove the asbestos, which would certainly
produce considerable dangerous dust.

If you're worried about asbestos, just replace the electrical outlets,
or make sure you don't grind or break them.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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TOPIC: Washing machine motor won't start, bad triac ?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/96d2b3fb706b3e62?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 12 2011 9:01 pm
From: Jeff Liebermann

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 22:20:34 -0500, Jamie
<jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:

>I didn't know washing machines had brushed motors?

See video showing washing machine brushes and how to replace them.
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jlD5gnh9jw> (5 min)

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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