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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 11:48 pm
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TOPIC: Unidentifiable washing machine klixon
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 1:20 am
From: Andre Majorel

On 2011-03-08, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Andre Majorel wrote:

>> The klixon is a Siltal part, an Italian white goods
>> manufacturer. But that doesn't tell me who actually made it.
>> This isn't the Siltal logo.
>
> Klixon made it. It was part of Texas Instruments, but Klixon
> was sold to Sensata.

http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/lf1200/files/lf1200_klixon_back.jpg

Not the Klixon logo. It's a klixon, but not from Klixon.

What is a 38�C thermostat for in a washing machine ? Preventing
damage to wool/synthetic in case the main temperature control
fails ?

--
Andr� Majorel http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/
"The object of this year's expedition is to see if we can find
trace of last year's expedition."

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 4:50 am
From: Archon

On 3/8/2011 4:20 AM, Andre Majorel wrote:
> On 2011-03-08, Michael A. Terrell<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Andre Majorel wrote:
>
>>> The klixon is a Siltal part, an Italian white goods
>>> manufacturer. But that doesn't tell me who actually made it.
>>> This isn't the Siltal logo.
>>
>> Klixon made it. It was part of Texas Instruments, but Klixon
>> was sold to Sensata.
>
> http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/lf1200/files/lf1200_klixon_back.jpg
>
> Not the Klixon logo. It's a klixon, but not from Klixon.
>
> What is a 38°C thermostat for in a washing machine ? Preventing
> damage to wool/synthetic in case the main temperature control
> fails ?
>
I posted this on UK DIY, but you haven't checked your replies.

I believe the Firstline Carrefour washers are made by Haier, a chinese
white goods company.

I think this may be your part,

http://www.repairclinic.com/PartDetail/Thermostat/1227484

Source

http://www.repairclinic.com/Haier-Washing-Machine-Parts?gclid=CJiHoOmhtqcCFYbb4AodHHOW_A

You may find parts in Europe, these guys are USA

Is your washer here?

http://www.haier.com/products/more.asp?epcID=4

There is a link to a UK parts supply on the Haier website

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TOPIC: Compact disc doesn't spin
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 3:13 am
From: Stefan Heimers

GARY wrote:

> On a Sharp Mini Component System (model CD-C420), the compact disc
> turns very slowly or moves only about 1" and then stops.

> How can I check to see if something is slipping? Is there a belt?

Maybe the disc is not recognized because the lens is dirty or the laser too
weak.

Does this happen with real CDs or only with CD-R? The latter is reflecting
less light and thus causes more problems.

Stefan

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 6:01 am
From: GARY

They are real CDs (which contain music, audio-books, etc); they are
not recordable CDs (CD-Rs).

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 9:57 am
From: Meat Plow

On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:29:27 -0800, GARY wrote:

> On a Sharp Mini Component System (model CD-C420), the compact disc turns
> very slowly or moves only about 1" and then stops.
>
> How can I check to see if something is slipping? Is there a belt?

No belt, direct drive. Any error code on the display like LO1 RO1 ?

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 10:36 am
From: GARY

No error-code.

After the 3 discs are cycled over the lens, the display says "No
Disc".

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 2:54 am
From: Christen Alex

GARY wrote:
> On a Sharp Mini Component System (model CD-C420), the compact disc
> turns very slowly or moves only about 1" and then stops.
>
> How can I check to see if something is slipping? Is there a belt?

That is because you did not finalize the CD-R. Put the CD-R back in the
computer and use Windows to finalize the disk.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 12:33 pm
From: "William Sommerwerck"

> After the 3 discs are cycled over the lens,
> the display says "No Disc".

Logic suggests that the player is not "seeing" the disks. You might have
problems with the laser other than it being dirty.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 1:19 pm
From: Meat Plow

On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:36:44 -0800, GARY wrote:

> No error-code.
>
> After the 3 discs are cycled over the lens, the display says "No Disc".

You've got problems in the logic portion. If it were a laser problem the
disc would rotate and the sled would slide the laser block in and out
looking for a disc ID. A logic failure might mean a total failure of
this initialization procedure. There may be a small switch or optical
sensor telling the logic control that there are discs loaded. I think I
would start there given the symptoms.

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

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TOPIC: Magnaxox chassis 25x607-00aa
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 4:17 am
From: PeterD

On 3/7/2011 10:51 PM, JR North wrote:
> 25" crt TV. 1996. About 6 months ago, tv shut off while on, no power
> led or response to power button or remote. I replaced ic410 VR, r432
> 1k, r411 100u and c432 100uf 250v. TV started and has run good. Now,
> same failure, but these parts all test good now. I don't have a
> schematic. Where to start?
> Thanks
> JR

Uh, the recycling center, followed up with a trip to WalMart?

--
I'm never going to grow up.

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TOPIC: TV sucks
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 5:31 am
From: Boris Mohar

On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 12:50:59 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid> wrote:

>Per Boris Mohar:
>> Sound is all over the place
>>from channel to channel and it also varies on the same channel.
>
>Can anybody comment on lip synch?
>
>Seems like it was especially egregious in the months after
>analog-digital cutover and has been slowly improving.
>
>Or am I just wishing?

Yeah, that sucks too.
--
Boris

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 6:07 am
From: "(PeteCresswell)"

Per Jeff Liebermann:
> Video signals and aural signals require vastly different
> processing, which results in different amounts of processing time.
> Unless appropriate additional artificial delay is added...

Sounds like the digital TV standard(s) didn't include any means
for ensuring audio/video synch.
--
PeteCresswell

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 6:26 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"

> Sounds like the digital TV standard(s) didn't include
> any means for ensuring audio/video sync.

I don't know if that's true, but many system controllers have the ability to
change the image/dialog offset.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 9:51 am
From: Meat Plow

On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 00:38:51 +0000, Meat Plow wrote:

> On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 16:31:32 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:57:03 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <mhywatt@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 10:48:00 -0800, William Sommerwerck wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Can anybody comment on lip sync?
>>>>
>>>> On Comcast a few channels have imperfect lip sync. As to why -- I
>>>> don't know.
>>>
>>>I've only had a small problem with Discovery HD. Once in a while I get
>>>some pixelation. Something you would expect with a less than adequate
>>>signal. But that's not the case. And the cable company can't explain
>>>it.
>>
>> This might add fuel to the fire. Note that this is from a cable
>> industry insider, published in a CATV industry journal:
>>
>> <http://www.cedmagazine.com/articles/2011/02/ciciora-corner-can-you-
> hear-me.aspx>
>> Digital television has brought the scourge of "lip sync" errors.
>> Video signals and aural signals require vastly different
>> processing, which results in different amounts of processing time.
>> Unless appropriate additional artificial delay is added, the sound
>> and the video will end up out of synchronization. This difference
>> can accumulate if multiple conversions take place in the path from
>> the original source to the final display site. I've seen lip sync
>> discrepancies that were so bad, it appeared that the characters
>> were speaking another language and that the speech I was hearing
>> was dubbed in. The problem is so pervasive that my sound system
>> comes with a delay adjustment so that I can manually compensate at
>> home. That would be a reasonable solution if the delay was constant
>> from channel to channel, or even from program to program on the
>> same channel. But it is not.
>>
>> On the home front, I've seen sound sync fall apart when ripping and
>> transcoding content from a DVD to some other video protocol. There are
>> tweaks for the problem, such as VLC which allows you to speed up or
>> slow down the audio using the "f" and "g" keys. You can also "desync"
>> the video and audio for a fixed user settable delay. The problem is
>> that controlling the sync seems to be too much of challenge for
>> broadcasters and cable companies. To make things worse, it seems (to
>> me) that different ATSC decoders have varying delays. It's suppose to
>> be controlled to between +15 and -45 msec but I'm beginning to have my
>> doubts:
>> <http://www.pixelinstruments.tv/articles.htm>
>> <http://www.pixelinstruments.tv/articles5.htm> (Lots more on audio sync
>> on the above URL).
>>
>> Incidentally, if you also happen to notice that cable video doth suck,
>> you might find this article, from the same issue, rather illuminating:
>> <http://www.cedmagazine.com/articles/2011/02/transcoding-presto-change-
> o.aspx>
>
> Bookmarked for perusal tomorrow morning after coffee.

All a very good read. I've been around digital video since 1998. I've
worked with encoding/transcoding/etc.. for a decade. Current streaming
of popularity seems to be done in a TS (transport stream) container.
In order to get to that TS container obviously the raw video has to go
through several processes. Obviously there are not enough checks in place
to ensure the video and audio are sync'd.

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

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TOPIC: IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 8:41 am
From: "TTman"

>
>
> The lunacy never ends.
>
> The pins are NOT defined by a brand name, idiot. They ARE defined by a
> standard.
>
> So IF you "found" a connector that was a different pinout (I doubt it),
> you were looking at a company that is or would soon be belly up.
>
> Do all gang boy generation retards have zero common sense?

Seems that way.... :)

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TOPIC: salvaging components..
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 8:55 am
From: bob urz

http://www.designfax.net/enews/20110308/feature-2.asp

bob

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TOPIC: On Second Thought
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 2:10 am
From: Michael Gross

Lady Veteran wrote:
> On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 22:32:00 -0800, Brandon Bowers <Brandon@aioe.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Lady Veteran wrote -
>>> Smell brains like this on should never be left unsupervised.
>>>
>>> LV
>> Bobbi Sanchez (Lady Veteran) -
>> After a bit of checking and seeing the above small example of your
>> writing skills I have decided not to enlist your help in preparing a
>> resume.
>>
>> Brandon
>
> OK. You know the procedure. get the paddle and bend over.
>
> LV
>

Who said that? You fat disgusting looking bitch. Fuck you you fat whore.
You fat
cunt

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 11:22 am
From: Lee

On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:10:27 +0000, Michael Gross
<pigwiggler@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Lady Veteran wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 22:32:00 -0800, Brandon Bowers <Brandon@aioe.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Lady Veteran wrote -
>>>> Smell brains like this on should never be left unsupervised.
>>>>
>>>> LV
>>> Bobbi Sanchez (Lady Veteran) -
>>> After a bit of checking and seeing the above small example of your
>>> writing skills I have decided not to enlist your help in preparing a
>>> resume.
>>>
>>> Brandon
>>
>> OK. You know the procedure. get the paddle and bend over.
>>
>> LV
>>
>
>Who said that? You fat disgusting looking bitch. Fuck you you fat whore.
> You fat
>cunt

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_____________________________________________________________

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__________________________________________________

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TOPIC: Blinkind LED Error code on Sharp Aquos LC32-LE700 TV
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 2:56 am
From: Christen Alex

benitos wrote:
> What I did so far :
>
> -unplug the TV
> -Press VOL- and INPUT at the same time
> -Plug TV
>
> TV turned ON with a LK on the screen.
>
> When turning off with power button , POWER & OPC Led blinked 2 times
> togheter and power led blinked 3 times alone .
>
> What does this code mean ?
>

It means that the flyback needs to be replaced.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 1:13 pm
From: Meat Plow

On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 10:56:07 +0000, Christen Alex wrote:

> benitos wrote:
>> What I did so far :
>>
>> -unplug the TV
>> -Press VOL- and INPUT at the same time -Plug TV
>>
>> TV turned ON with a LK on the screen.
>>
>> When turning off with power button , POWER & OPC Led blinked 2 times
>> togheter and power led blinked 3 times alone .
>>
>> What does this code mean ?
>>
>>
> It means that the flyback needs to be replaced.

How do you figure that?

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

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TOPIC: Adding RGB input to Sony Trinitron
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 2:57 am
From: Christen Alex

boardjunkie1 wrote:
> I picked up a flat face Trinitron yesterday for peanuts. I plan to use
> this as an arcade game monitor (in a MAME setup) and need RGB and
> seperate sync inputs.
>
> From the schem, I see the "jungle" chip has RGB outputs, so I assume I
> can insert the color gun signals here. What signal level is it wanting
> to see here? .7v? Also, I need to keep the OSD for setup and
> adjustments, so will this be the best option?
>
> The schem is here:
> http://www.eserviceinfo.com/downloadsm/36631/sony_KV-21FV10%20%20parte1.html
>
> I can see a good place to tap in H sync (after the seperator), but I
> don't see any reference to V sync. I see the output IC, but its a PITA
> to trace it back.
>
> Suggestions?

I would not recommend doing such a thing. Without a proper NTSC signal,
your flyback and horizontal output transformer will be fried.

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TOPIC: Samsung TV repair question.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ef9b7679393102e3?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 3:01 am
From: Christen Alex

Beezle Bub wrote:
> I have an analog Samsung TV which I bought in 1998. It is around 32
> inches. The problem is the image keeps getting 'squeezed'--the sides
> cave in and the image takes on the shape of an hourglass. In the past,
> I would have this problem for like 10 minutes but the image would
> eventually correct itself. Nowadays, the problem remains as it is.
> Anything can be done about this?
>
> Model # is TXJ2766.

That's what happens when you feed HDTV into a non-HDTV TV Set. It takes
about 10 minutes for the set to correct itself because frame buffers
were a lot slower back in 1998.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 12:24 pm
From: "David"

"Christen Alex" wrote in message
news:il5ud9$hct$4@speranza.aioe.org...

Beezle Bub wrote:
> I have an analog Samsung TV which I bought in 1998. It is
> around 32
> inches. The problem is the image keeps getting 'squeezed'--the
> sides
> cave in and the image takes on the shape of an hourglass. In
> the past,
> I would have this problem for like 10 minutes but the image
> would
> eventually correct itself. Nowadays, the problem remains as it
> is.
> Anything can be done about this?
>
> Model # is TXJ2766.

>That's what happens when you feed HDTV into a non-HDTV TV Set.
>It takes
>about 10 minutes for the set to correct itself because frame
>buffers
>were a lot slower back in 1998.

That has to take the cake for the worst explanation of a problem
this month. HD signals do not cause an hourglass shape. If this
is a CRT set, you need to check the pincushion correction and
horizontal deflection circuitry. If it is a flat panel display
(doubtful in 1998), I have no suggestions.

David

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TOPIC: reparing battery pack
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 8 2011 4:47 am
From: Sitre Josephenne Magana

LSMFT wrote:
> When I rebuild my drill battery pack with new C nicads do I have to stay
> in the same mAh rating. The originals are 1300mAh, I can replace them
> with 2300mAh cells with tabs. Or even 4000mAh ones. Will more mAh hurt
> the drill?
>
>
>
>
Nope. My friend Ryan Morris tells me that if you replace it with 4000mAh
cells, you will giving it 4000mA when it was only designed to take 1300mA.

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