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* AVO 8 Mk 4 ... - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/a0ca6d125e6a7e97?hl=en
* Speaker Crossover Wiring : Solve the Puzzle - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/9ce83c1fb5063b0f?hl=en
* How-To: Common Cause Of Flat Panel PS Failure - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Recommendation for electronics forums? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Toroidal mains Tx inrush limiter - retrofit - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Backwards electrolytics (again) - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Foregoing warranty rights - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* Looking for a schematic diagram for Philips RTH718 mini-Hi-Fi - 1 messages,
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TOPIC: AVO 8 Mk 4 ...
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/a0ca6d125e6a7e97?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 3:02 pm
From: Mike Tomlinson

In article <5Rqlp.4508$o81.2161@newsfe28.ams2>, Arfa Daily
<arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> writes

> Even more annoying is that I have damaged the
>meter by my own stupidity

Measured the resistance of the mains?

BTDTGTTS.

--
(\__/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 3:53 pm
From: "Trevor Wilson"

Arfa Daily wrote:
> "Robin" <see@sig.sep> wrote in message
> news:97olp.1305$bT6.318@newsfe05.ams2...
>> Arfa Daily wrote:
>>> Anybody got a copy of the schematic that's in the back of the user
>>> guide that they can scan for me, please ? I've searched all my files
>>> and drawers high and low, and can't find my book anywhere ... I
>>> thought that the 'net would be awash with copies of the schematic,
>>> but it seems only for the Mk 2, which is totally different to the MK
>>> 4.
>>> TIA
>>>
>> Is it the circuit diagram at
>> http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/avo_universal_avometer_8_mk_i.html ?
>> (Registration necessary for download. I have not done it as mine's
>> a Mk II.)
>> --
>> Robin
>> PM may be sent to rbw0{at}hotmail{dot}com
>>
>
> Hi Robin, thanks for that. It would appear to be the correct one.
> Looks as though you need to pay to become a member, so I will hold
> off for now until all the feelers that I have out, run dry. It's
> really annoying because I have owned the meter from new when I was an
> apprentice, and I have the book, which has the schematic in it,
> carefully filed away somewhere, but I'm buggered if I can now find
> it. It is in a box file, but said boxfile is not where I know it
> should be. Even more annoying is that I have damaged the meter by my
> own stupidity, so now have the need to fix it ... :-(

**I can't help you, but I do know that AVOs are bloody hard to damage. You
must have put considerable effort into it.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 4:08 pm
From: "Dave Plowman (News)"

In article <Cqmlp.4035$KZ7.856@newsfe08.ams2>,
Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Anybody got a copy of the schematic that's in the back of the user guide
> that they can scan for me, please ? I've searched all my files and
> drawers high and low, and can't find my book anywhere ... I thought
> that the 'net would be awash with copies of the schematic, but it seems
> only for the Mk 2, which is totally different to the MK 4.

Have you tried AVO direct? They still make the Model 8, IIRC.

--
*Dance like nobody's watching.

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 4:16 pm
From: Andy Dingley

On Apr 1, 11:53 pm, "Trevor Wilson" <tre...@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

> **I can't help you, but I do know that AVOs are bloody hard to damage. You
> must have put considerable effort into it.

Not that hard. The overload cutout is a sensitive beast and the
adjustment procedure is a little convoluted.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 5:20 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"

"Dave Plowman (News)" <dave@davenoise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:51bd54ef3adave@davenoise.co.uk...
> In article <Cqmlp.4035$KZ7.856@newsfe08.ams2>,
> Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Anybody got a copy of the schematic that's in the back of the user guide
>> that they can scan for me, please ? I've searched all my files and
>> drawers high and low, and can't find my book anywhere ... I thought
>> that the 'net would be awash with copies of the schematic, but it seems
>> only for the Mk 2, which is totally different to the MK 4.
>
> Have you tried AVO direct? They still make the Model 8, IIRC.
>
> --
> *Dance like nobody's watching.
>
> Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
> To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Thanks all. Some useful suggestions there. You are of course all quite
correct in that it is very difficult to damage an AVO. This one is now
around 40 years old, and it has been in use on a daily basis for all of
those years, and has withstood much normal workshop abuse - yes, including
measuring the resistance of the mains ! - many times over. It was a very
high pulse voltage that caused the problem that I now have. I have recently
been working on some pro lighting equipment that makes use of short-arc
discharge lamps, and it is important that the running voltage, once they
have struck, is correct. They are fed with a 50% duty factor square wave at
about 200v p-p, resulting in an average 'AC' voltage of 100V across the
lamp. The AVO reads this nicely on either its 100V or 250V AC ranges. When
the lamp is being started, however, it is subjected to a pulsed igniter
voltage of several kV. When the lamp strikes, its impedance drops quite low,
and this swamps the igniter circuit and stops it. Stupidly, I had the meter
connected during the ignition sequence, and now, 100V of 'real' sinusoidal
AC reads about 35V ...

I am at this point thinking that it is going to be one of the two rectifier
diodes, which seem to be "OA" germanium types, but I guess it could also be
a fried metal film precision resistor. Needless to say, there is no visible
evidence of any problem :-\

Arfa

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TOPIC: Speaker Crossover Wiring : Solve the Puzzle
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/9ce83c1fb5063b0f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 4:39 pm
From: "Chris F."

> http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/Home/tabid/37/Default.aspx
>
> Why should I have to look this up for you?
>
>

The owner of the speakers had contacted Wharfedale, but apparently the specs
for these speakers were lost in a fire. Looking on the net, I see other
people have encountered the same problem but nobody seems to know of a
solution.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 7:03 pm
From: "William Sommerwerck"

> The owner of the speakers had contacted Wharfedale, but
> apparently the specs for these speakers were lost in a fire.
> Looking on the net, I see other people have encountered the
> same problem but nobody seems to know of a solution.

I would suggest this... Use the inductors and capacitors in the "common
sense" way I suggested, and measure the response of each driver pair
separately. This will give you an idea of whether you're headed in the right
direction.

Without knowing the impedances and responses of the "bare" drivers, there is
no rational way to determine what the crossover was. There is no magic
formula. One does not generally design crossovers without knowing the base
behavior of the drivers.

You will have to figure this out on your own. We can make suggestions for
starting points, but that's it.

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TOPIC: How-To: Common Cause Of Flat Panel PS Failure
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 4:51 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Bob Villa wrote:
>
> On Mar 31, 6:20 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
> > > Hey Mike when can I expect this PSU to fail...a few years from now?
> > > Thanks for your gracious responses.
> >
> > When can you post a real question?
>
> Alas, the mastertech doesn't understand sarcasm.

You can't even do sarcasm well, and I'm not being sarcastic.

--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid� on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

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TOPIC: Recommendation for electronics forums?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/a2a97ca7806d8277?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 4:52 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Wiebe Cazemier wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
> >> >
> >> >Smitty Two wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> In article <4d854cd2$0$2434$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com>,
> >> >> David Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > The subject of my current research is the ins and
> >> >> > outs of op amps.
> >> >>
> >> >> A little pun, there?
> >> >
> >> > A bit bipolar, if you ask me...
> >>
> >> I dunno, but then again I may be biased.
> >
> >
> > I figured that you were a little off center. :)
> >
> >
>
> Now that's unfair feedback :)

Not if you're at unity gain... :)

--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

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TOPIC: Toroidal mains Tx inrush limiter - retrofit
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/da7ba841cd54d76f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 5:15 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"Mike Tomlinson"
Nutcase Kook"
>
>>This green thermistor limiter 10 deg C over ambient with no throughput and
>>20 deg C over with 0.4 amp mains with amp driving load.
>
> Bit warmer than I would be comfortable with.
>

** So neither of you has a clue how NTC surge limiters are meant to work ?

..... Phil

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 2 2011 12:33 am
From: "N_Cook"

Mike Tomlinson <mike@jasper.org.uk> wrote in message
news:GZ$5xNEjVclNFwGu@jasper.org.uk...
> In article <in4d0o$4dq$1@dont-email.me>, N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>
> writes
>
> >This green thermistor limiter 10 deg C over ambient with no throughput
and
> >20 deg C over with 0.4 amp mains with amp driving load.
>
> Bit warmer than I would be comfortable with.
>
> --
> Mike Tomlinson

Odd you say that. The next amp I looked at, this time mixer amp but also
300W and toroid Tx. Owner bought knowing 2 of the 8 channels were duff and
used as such for some years. He now needs all 8 ch .
Before he owned it , it must have been dropped and broke the awkward
size/shape mains switch. So someone spade jumpered the leads and covered
with heatshrink, leaving un-blanked off hole in chassis. Under his
heatshrink and touching the ordinary mains wire sleeving is an inrush
thermistor. Black , with 0.8mm leads, marked SG 130, 3.2R cold, 0.8R 20 sec
of soldering iron barrel. Presumably originally fixed to the sw and
unsupported other lead other than cable tie further down the cable loom.
Hopefully originally there was some woven glass sleeving over the thermistor

data for SG130 RTI Surge Guard, 0.07 ohms at 7 amps max , 2.5R at 25 deg C
27 joules rating for a 15 x 6.3 mm black (body radiator?) lump and .8mm
leads for anyone who can convert to temperature (not on the RTI datasheet)

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TOPIC: NVIDIA GPU defect repair
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 5:21 pm
From: divx dude

Vostro 1400 DELL laptop with Nvidia 8400m-gs GPU.
i just got into this a couple months ago so am somewhat under informed
but have been trying to catch up.

the lappy arrived to me dead a couple months ago i got to gasp back
to life for a few hours and died again.

reasearched and found defect info and lawsuit claims site. filed and
acepted for "free repair" by Dell.
skeptical going in seems i was right the got the machine back from
Dell , they replaced the "MLB".
I immediately ran temperature tool and benchmark 55-60C at idle
climbed to 89C after about 20 minutes of benchmark.

I been told that was above proper temps and i still have the defect
and have Dell picking it up again for further action.

Is anyone really up on solutions to this? i am of the impression the
problem is not repairable and Dell should begin with offering me
something else.

would like to have the OEM specificaiton dox that show the max
tolerated temps to use as a guide in my interaction with Dell as i
intend to ride them until a fair settlement is reached.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 6:48 pm
From: Sylvia Else

On 2/04/2011 11:21 AM, divx dude wrote:
> Vostro 1400 DELL laptop with Nvidia 8400m-gs GPU.
> i just got into this a couple months ago so am somewhat under informed
> but have been trying to catch up.
>
> the lappy arrived to me dead a couple months ago i got to gasp back
> to life for a few hours and died again.
>
> reasearched and found defect info and lawsuit claims site. filed and
> acepted for "free repair" by Dell.
> skeptical going in seems i was right the got the machine back from
> Dell , they replaced the "MLB".
> I immediately ran temperature tool and benchmark 55-60C at idle
> climbed to 89C after about 20 minutes of benchmark.

Do you really live in a jurisdiction where a company can ship you a dead
laptop, and not be liable to supply at least a new replacement, if not a
cash refund?

Consumers are sadly underinformed about their rights in these sorts of
situation.

Sylvia.

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TOPIC: Backwards electrolytics (again)
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 6:53 pm
From: Sylvia Else

On 31/03/2011 10:19 PM, Stroonz wrote:
> On Mar 31, 6:36 am, "Phil Allison"<phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
> .
>>
>> ** With all those damn electros installed in reverse polarity, be a damn
>> site easier to alter the DC rails to suit - wouldn't it ??
>>
>> ..... Phil ;-)
>
>
> Geez Phil, what kind of Phil Allison answer is that? And a smiley
> emoticon? Since you're off your game, I thought I'd take the liberty
> and reply to Jeff in the proper Allison manner:

Thing is, Jeff hasn't disagreed with Phil, or said something that Phil
disagrees with. Phil reserves his insults for what he regards to be
their proper use - as a debating tool.

Sylvia.

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TOPIC: Foregoing warranty rights
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 7:51 pm
From: Jeff Liebermann

On Fri, 1 Apr 2011 04:08:59 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

>> My favorite example is the cell phone. I have a small side business
>> repairing these and supplying spares and replacements. None of them
>> are built to be repaired, so that's a challenge. Yet, the condition
>> of most of the phones I see are so bad, that were it any other
>> product, I would claim that the owner was intentionally abusing the
>> device. With an average lifetime of about 18 months for a consumer
>> dumb phone, the level of quality need not be much above minimal.
>
>I'm curious. My current cell phone -- a Korean Lucky Goldstar -- is almost
>five years old. Never had problems with it, and it's in great shape. (I
>rarely abuse my purchases.) What, exactly, are the things you see that
>suggest products -- cell phones or otherwise -- are abused?

Mechanical damage, broken hinges, scratched screens, fingernails
through the key tops, mangled connector covers, broken antennas,
cracked earphone connectors, cracked power/accessory connectors, water
damage, dirt, filth, crud, good, pogs, labels, cracked case, bulging
batteries, etc.
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/cell-phones-02.jpg>
These are some of the recent arrivals, after some cleaning. The
really beat up phones, I don't bother trying to fix (unless I need the
parts). My guess is that I have about 150 phones in stock.

Other vendors:
<http://www.recellular.com>
<http://www.dotcells.com>
etc...

Incidentally, LG phones are generally good quality, fairly easy to
fix, and tend to survive. I've had problems with the ENV2 models
falling apart. I'm currently using an LG VX-8300.

>On a related note... I was talking with a friend who's my age, and owns a
>company that makes consumer audio equipment. He agreed with me that pride of
>ownership has largely disappeared. Nothing seems to be of lasting value.
>Products become obsolete after only a few months.

Products are obsolete on arrival. The next generation and possibly
one or two generations after that are in the design, manufacture, and
distribution chain when the current version hits the market. Because
the obvious answer to any problems with the current model is to just
wait for the "new and improved" model that follows, there's no
incentive to fix any of the first generation problems.

--
# Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
# 831-336-2558
# http://802.11junk.com jeffl@cruzio.com
# http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 8:06 pm
From: Smitty Two

In article <dm2dp6pteut9tnbknl4vbk5furp1lgq0hg@4ax.com>,
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:

> Incidentally, LG phones are generally good quality, fairly easy to
> fix, and tend to survive.

As I was leaning over a railing, talking on it, my LG slipped from my
hand and fell 14 feet onto concrete. It landed flat. Back came off,
battery popped out. Nary a scratch and works perfectly since.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 8:09 pm
From: "Phil Allison"

"Jeff Liebermann"
>
> Some wanker asked:
>
>> What, exactly, are the things you see that
>>suggest products -- cell phones or otherwise -- are abused?
>
> Mechanical damage, broken hinges, scratched screens, fingernails
> through the key tops, mangled connector covers, broken antennas,
> cracked earphone connectors, cracked power/accessory connectors, water
> damage, dirt, filth, crud, good, pogs, labels, cracked case, bulging
> batteries, etc.

** I was given a " Palm Pilot " to fix once.

About two weeks prior to my receiving it - a whole container of yoghurt
( flavour unknown) had leaked over it while in a woman's handbag. The woman
concerned had then only wiped it over with a cloth and noted it did not
work.

She left the battery inside - so of course it was ruined.

My own mobile has copped a spillage of bleach and also of liquid detergent
in a similar way - but by immediately removing the battery and rinsing it
with warm water, it lives to fight another day.

Why is it that no maker ever gives advice on what to do if your pocket
digital wonder gets accidentally immersed or suffers a spillage ??

Get the damn battery OUT immediately - then rinse and dry it pronto.

.... Phil

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 1 2011 7:55 pm
From: "China gogo"

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> have you tried eserviceinfo.com?

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