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* Ganged Pots - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ed76e380cee9ebeb?hl=en
* DISCOVER ISLAM - THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD !!!!!!!! - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/fe924e4f9ec9e67a?hl=en
* Clumsy + Criminal = A beer tragedy - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/262f154ccbbfb8d1?hl=en
* Name of plug in US - 19 messages, 13 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/e7b21b0c6fd7afc7?hl=en
* Audio test software - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/2c2422fab2f85377?hl=en
* Vietnamese Marshall - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/83dfedaa7815fcd1?hl=en
* Old style filament lamps? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/8b70a4142ec9c2ec?hl=en

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TOPIC: Ganged Pots
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ed76e380cee9ebeb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 12:28 am
From: "N_Cook"


Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:8lkpr69c3bmtb8ojr1n04rakpo2uq9ve6p@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:07:55 -0700, Pilgrim <pilgrim@noemail.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Allen Bradley used to make "Mod Pots". Didn't some one else pick up this
> >line after they stopped? What value/s do you need? I have some new old
> >stock.
>
> Please Google for "modular potentiometer" and you'll find that Cermet,
> Vishay, Alpha (Taiwan), and probably some others, make them. For
> example:
> <http://www.potentiometers.com/series389.cfm>
>
> On the other foot, I have had considerable difficulties with such
> ganged pots in various pieces of equipment. I have several Radio
> Shock scanners with them, that are worn out and have "dead" spots. My
> ancient Wavetek 3000B service monitor many of these that are all
> intermittent. I've had limited success drilling a tiny hole in the
> side, and injecting contact cleaner.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Where the track is not too bad , just worn in arcs.
Bend, out or in, whichever direction has most fresh track,
the wiper blade/blades, to use a different
part of track. If the wiper support can be wedged
away from the track then bend the wiper to give more
contact force. If limited access then 2 needle points one about where the
wiper starts
to bend and then at the wiper/s themselved , on the other side and against
one another
force in some more wiper tension. To do this with dual pots , usually the
central one is not
acessible. With a Dremmel and .5mm grinding disc, cut 2 or 3 slots in the
screening can ,
enough to bend outwards and gain some space. Bend back afterwards and glue
over the cuts.
If the rivets have slackened on the
paxolin then squash with an old pair of basic red/blue/yellow single
action crimp pliers. To get to the wiper rivet
grind down the the interfering bulges a bit between the
red and blue sections of the crimp tool.

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TOPIC: DISCOVER ISLAM - THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD !!!!!!!!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 2:00 am
From: bv


DISCOVER ISLAM - THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION IN THE WORLD

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Is the information about Islam that published at International Media
is correct ?

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Would you stop for a moment?!
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Who has made it?
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Who has made them all ?!!
You know who ?.. It's "ALLAH",prise be to him.
Just think for a moment.
How are you going to be after death ?!
Can you believe that this exact system of the universe and all of
these great creation will end in in nothing...just after death!
Have you thought, for a second, How to save your soul from Allah's
punishment?!
Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
Read ... and think deeply before you answer..
It is religion of Islam.
It is the religion that Mohammad-peace upon him- the last prophet, had
been sent by.
It is the religion that the right Bible- which is not distorted-has
preached.
Just have a look at The Bible of (Bernaba).
Don't be emstional.
Be rational and judge..
Just look..listen...compare..and then judge and say your word.
We advise you visiting :

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http://www.islamhouse.com/s/9661

http://www.thisistruth.org

http://www.quran-m.com/firas/en1

http://kaheel7.com/eng

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http://www.todayislam.com

http://www.thekeytoislam.com

http://www.islamland.com

http://www.discoverislam.com

http://www.thetruereligion.org

http://www.beconvinced.com

http://islamtomorrow.com

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran

http://www.quranforall.org

http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran

http://www.prophetmuhammed.org

http://www.chatislamonline.org/ar

http://www.dar-us-salam.com

http://youtubeislam.com

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TOPIC: Clumsy + Criminal = A beer tragedy
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 3:05 am
From: RoadRunner


Inept thief falls on his face, breaks the stolen beer and loses his
pants in the process. And it is all caught on tape!

http://www.craigboyce.com/w/2011/04/clumsy-thief/

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TOPIC: Name of plug in US
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== 1 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 3:42 am
From: Jasen Betts


On 2011-04-30, Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> We may both be wrong..
>> They look like RCA But they are in fact imports used on Antenna
>> Connections to Signal Amplifiers.
>
> It's the TV antennae cable plug being used in Hong Kong, which was ruled
> by UK before 1997. It's not RCA, the pin is shorter.
>
> I wanna know the TECHNICAL name of that plug design.

When not called "tv coaxial antenna plug" (or some variation thereof)
I've heard it called called "Belling-Lee" or "PAL" (neither of which
are technically accurate).

compared to F connectors it has the advantage of withstanding more
insertion cycles, but the disadvantage of poor impedance matching.

Wikipedia suggests it is standardised as "IEC 169-2"

--
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== 2 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 3:57 am
From: Jasen Betts


On 2011-04-30, Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote:
> Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
>>
>>
>> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>>
>> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>>
>
> The UK version is mentioned here.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_aerial_plug
>
> "Belling-Lee connector or IEC 169-2 connector,
> more often simply known as TV aerial plug"
>
> A lot of my wiring here (Canada), is done with F series.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_connector
>
> The RCA / Cinch connector is also a common
> connector type on home electronics, being used
> for audio and video. Compared to the Belling-Lee,
> the central prong is longer.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA_connector

> The antenna connector in my car, is like none
> of those, so there is at least one other flavor,

The car radio antenna plug if often called "Motorola"
no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
doesn't seem to know it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_connector

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== 3 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 4:05 am
From: mm


On 1 May 2011 10:57:55 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

>
>> The antenna connector in my car, is like none
>> of those, so there is at least one other flavor,
>
>The car radio antenna plug if often called "Motorola"
>no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
>doesn't seem to know it.

Motorola was the first or one of the first to make radios for motor
cars. Hence the name motor ola.

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_connector

== 4 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 4:11 am
From: "Phil Allison"

"Jasen Betts" <jasen@xnet.co.nz>

** Kiwi sheep shagger alert !

>
> When not called "tv coaxial antenna plug" (or some variation thereof)
> I've heard it called called "Belling-Lee" or "PAL" (neither of which
> are technically accurate).

** The correct name for any thing, animal or person is that name by which it
is most commonly known.

Any other names are less correct.

Being technically accurate has nothing to do with names.

Or else, your correct name would be:

" tedious, PITA, sheep fucker and massive troll "

Get it ??

Betts you don't.

... Phil


== 5 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 4:07 am
From: Jasen Betts


On 2011-04-30, Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote:
> Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
>>
>>
>> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>>
>> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>>
>
> The UK version is mentioned here.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_aerial_plug
>
> "Belling-Lee connector or IEC 169-2 connector,
> more often simply known as TV aerial plug"
>
> A lot of my wiring here (Canada), is done with F series.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_connector
>
> The RCA / Cinch connector is also a common
> connector type on home electronics, being used
> for audio and video. Compared to the Belling-Lee,
> the central prong is longer.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA_connector

> The antenna connector in my car, is like none
> of those, so there is at least one other flavor,

The car radio antenna plug is often called "Motorola"
no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
doesn't seem to know it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_connector

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⚂⚃ 100% natural


== 6 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 4:29 am
From: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"


Jasen Betts wrote:
> The car radio antenna plug if often called "Motorola"
> no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
> doesn't seem to know it.

Why can't Motorola be it's proper name? It was "invented" by Motorola.
It's a longer version of the the RCA connector, "invented" by RCA.

Probably at one time RCA had a patent on its connector and Motorola
had a patent on theirs.

It wasn't until the second world war that the concept of standarization
across manufacturers was pushed. Companies made their own parts, connectors,
etc, and tried to prevent competion.

Geoff.


--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it.


== 7 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 5:09 am
From: "Phil Allison"

"Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
> The Daring Dufas wrote:
>> I've also heard them called "British Naval Connectors".
>
> In England some people joke that it stands for "Brand New Connector" and
> the later TNC stands for "Terribly New Connector". :-)


** I was once told it stood for " Bloody Nice Connector " .......


.... Phil


== 8 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 5:09 am
From: "Robert Green"


"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> wrote in message
news:slrnirqgus.u9.gsm@cable.mendelson.com...

<stuff snipped>

> It wasn't until the second world war that the concept of standarization
> across manufacturers was pushed. Companies made their own parts,
connectors,
> etc, and tried to prevent competion.

It seems that the manufacturers of anything battery-powered haven't gotten
the message. I have two shelves full of nearly identical batteries and
nearly identical chargers that are totally incompatible.

--
Bobby G.

== 9 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 5:49 am
From: "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"


Robert Green wrote:
> It seems that the manufacturers of anything battery-powered haven't gotten
> the message. I have two shelves full of nearly identical batteries and
> nearly identical chargers that are totally incompatible.

While I personally think the world would be a better place if everyone
standardized on 1.2 volt AA batteries (preferably NiMH at the moment) it's
a loosing battle.

You would figure that after the battery disaster with the original iPod
Apple would have done something better but it seems that their customers
prefer internal batteries that need to be replace by a technician or the
entire device recycled.

Come to think of it, every pocket music or video player I have ever seen
except for the first, a 256meg USB stick, had a "permanent" battery.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to misquote it.


== 10 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 6:39 am
From: Klay_Anderson


On Apr 30, 5:39 am, Man-wai Chang <toylet.toy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S...
>
> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
>

The connectors in the photo are "press-on F" connectors. Cheap to
make, they simply slide on the chassis threaded F. They are horrible
and cause a lot of issues as they do not allow proper and tight
sheilding.

e-ya later!
Klay Anderson's iPhone 4/iOS4.3.2
Try FaceTime!

== 11 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 7:01 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"


"Klay_Anderson" <klay@klay.com> wrote in message
news:2404ffd8-0270-4b00-a9c4-0ee7a6642899@k27g2000pri.googlegroups.com...

> The connectors in the photo are "press-on F" connectors.
> Cheap to make, they simply slide on the chassis threaded F.
> They are horrible and cause a lot of issues as they do not
> allow proper and tight sheilding.

I don't think that's correct. An F connector normally uses the center
conductor of the cable -- a wire -- as the center connection -- not an
RCA-like plug.

The press-on F connectors I've seen use a slotted jacket that usually fits
snugly and rarely causes problems.


== 12 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 7:53 am
From: Man-wai Chang


> The connectors in the photo are "press-on F" connectors. Cheap to
> make, they simply slide on the chassis threaded F. They are horrible
> and cause a lot of issues as they do not allow proper and tight
> sheilding.

Look at the "shell" carefully: no screw... :)

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== 13 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 8:00 am
From: spamtrap1888


On May 1, 4:29 am, "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <g...@mendelson.com> wrote:
> Jasen Betts wrote:
> > The car radio antenna plug if often called "Motorola"
> > no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
> > doesn't seem to know it.
>
> Why can't Motorola be it's proper name? It was "invented" by Motorola.
> It's a longer version of the the RCA connector, "invented" by RCA.
>

Or the "GR" plug on General Radio equipment. People my age fairly
universally called it the "double banana" plug.


== 14 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 8:35 am
From: "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"


On Sun, 1 May 2011 08:00:41 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1888@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On May 1, 4:29 am, "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <g...@mendelson.com> wrote:
>> Jasen Betts wrote:
>> > The car radio antenna plug if often called "Motorola"
>> > no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
>> > doesn't seem to know it.
>>
>> Why can't Motorola be it's proper name? It was "invented" by Motorola.
>> It's a longer version of the the RCA connector, "invented" by RCA.
>>
>
>Or the "GR" plug on General Radio equipment. People my age fairly
>universally called it the "double banana" plug.

The "GR" connector is *not* a "double banana". The GR connector is a
hermaphroditic connector about an inch in diameter.

Some GR to BNC in the first pic and a GR 'T's in the second and third:

http://www.mgs4u.com/RF-Microwave/RF-connectors.htm


== 15 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 8:52 am
From: spamtrap1888


On May 1, 8:35 am, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz>
wrote:
> On Sun, 1 May 2011 08:00:41 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On May 1, 4:29 am, "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <g...@mendelson.com> wrote:
> >> Jasen Betts wrote:
> >> > The car radio antenna plug if often called "Motorola"
> >> > no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
> >> > doesn't seem to know it.
>
> >> Why can't Motorola be it's proper name? It was "invented" by Motorola.
> >> It's a longer version of the the RCA connector, "invented" by RCA.
>
> >Or the "GR" plug on General Radio equipment. People my age fairly
> >universally called it the "double banana" plug.
>
> The "GR" connector is *not* a "double banana".  The GR connector is a
> hermaphroditic connector about an inch in diameter.
>
> Some GR to BNC in the first pic and a GR 'T's in the second and third:
>
> http://www.mgs4u.com/RF-Microwave/RF-connectors.htm

I mean the 1924 GR plug, not some modern 1960s RF connector.


== 16 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 9:03 am
From: "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"


On Sun, 1 May 2011 08:52:59 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1888@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On May 1, 8:35 am, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz>
>wrote:
>> On Sun, 1 May 2011 08:00:41 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On May 1, 4:29 am, "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <g...@mendelson.com> wrote:
>> >> Jasen Betts wrote:
>> >> > The car radio antenna plug if often called "Motorola"
>> >> > no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
>> >> > doesn't seem to know it.
>>
>> >> Why can't Motorola be it's proper name? It was "invented" by Motorola.
>> >> It's a longer version of the the RCA connector, "invented" by RCA.
>>
>> >Or the "GR" plug on General Radio equipment. People my age fairly
>> >universally called it the "double banana" plug.
>>
>> The "GR" connector is *not* a "double banana".  The GR connector is a
>> hermaphroditic connector about an inch in diameter.
>>
>> Some GR to BNC in the first pic and a GR 'T's in the second and third:
>>
>> http://www.mgs4u.com/RF-Microwave/RF-connectors.htm
>
>I mean the 1924 GR plug, not some modern 1960s RF connector.

'60s? <guffaw>


== 17 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 10:49 am
From: clare@snyder.on.ca


On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 21:29:04 +0000 (UTC), "Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
<gsm@mendelson.com> wrote:

>Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 4/30/2011 10:16 PM, Stephen wrote:
>>> All of you are all wrong.. The plugs that are on the white cable in the
>>> Weblink is in fact known as Belling Lee. They are used all over Great
>>> Britain for both FM and UHF TV The ones in the pic are the male version of
>>> Belling Lee.
>>
>> I can't find a BNC female to Belling Lee adaptor in Amazon US...
>>
>> In fact Amazon US doesn't have any electronics item with "Belling Lee"
>> in its specification.
>
>In the US they are called PAL connectors.
>
>http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103468
>
>Geoff.
Officially, on both sides of the pond, they are referred to as IEC
169-2, or IEC 60169-2 connectors, and they are CRAP for TV usage as
they are not a proper match to 75 ohm cable - actually closer to 50
ohm, and cause reflections and ghosting of the signal

The IEC 169-24, or "F" connector is superior for TV use.


== 18 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 12:12 pm
From: Paul


Jasen Betts wrote:

>
> The car radio antenna plug is often called "Motorola"
> no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
> doesn't seem to know it.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_connector
>

I didn't realize it was that common.

Paul


== 19 of 19 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 12:35 pm
From: zek


On Apr 30, 7:39 am, Man-wai Chang <toylet.toy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S...
>
> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
> --
>    @~@   Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
>   / v \  Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
> /( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10)  Linux 2.6.38.4
>    ^ ^   19:36:01 up 5 days 23:37 1 user load average:1.09 1.05 1.05
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The name of the plug is, how an RCA phonograph plug should have been
made.

Greg

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TOPIC: Audio test software
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 7:16 am
From: "Gareth Magennis"


Hi,

does anyone use or know of a good software package you can run on a laptop /
external soundcard for audio test and measurement purposes?
Just something basic that will generate signals, and have some kind of 2 or
3 channel scope display/level meters, and a frequency response
display/printout would be rather nice too.


Cheers,


Gareth.


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TOPIC: Vietnamese Marshall
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 8:32 am
From: "Arfa Daily"


"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:923t5fF2ntU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Arfa Daily"
>>>
>>>>> ** You can send them to " rode@sound.au.com " if you like.
>>>
>>>> Done.
>>>
>>> ** Thanks.
>>>
>>> I'll let you know if they are for the same amp.
>>
>> OK. Noted.
>>
>
> ** I have all the schems now and they are certainly for the same amp.
>
> Only thing I can spot different is that 630mA HT fuse shown in the output
> of the bridge rectifier where I see it fitted in the AC input. Makes no
> difference to the rms current flow in the part.
>
>
>
> .....Phil
>
>
>

Fair enough. I'll know if one crosses my bench ...

Arfa


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 1 2011 12:03 pm
From: Meat Plow


On Sun, 01 May 2011 13:06:21 +1000, Phil Allison wrote:

> "William Sommerwanker is a Lying Cunt "
>>
>>
>>>> Suppose a 100W-equivalent CFL that draws 25W lasts only 1000 hours.
>>>> In that
>>>> time you save 75kWh. At 10 cents per kWh, that's $7.50 -- three times
>>>> the
>>>> cost of the bulb.
>>
>>> ** A CLF that genuinely replaces a 100W bulb cost at lot more than
>>> $2.50 where I live.
>>
>> Well, it doesn't where I live.
>
> ** Blatant lie.
>
> And STOP SNIPPING people's cases out of sight - you FUCKHEAD !!!!!!!
>
>
> ** A CLF that genuinely replaces a 100W bulb cost at lot more than $2.50
> where I live.
>
> Even a "no brand" 27W CFL ( direct from China import ) sells for $ 8
> to $10 each.
>
> I worked out long ago that the break even point for a CFL occurs at
> about 1000 hours - but only about half of them make it that long
> ,without dying or losing almost half their light output.
>
>
>
> .... Phil

http://www.homedepot.com/

EcoSmart 27-Watt (100W) Daylight CFL Light Bulb (2-Pack)
Model # ES5M827250K Internet # 100677481 Store SKU # 599526

$3.97

3.97÷2 = 1.98 each
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EcoSmart
23-Watt (100W) Soft White CFL Light Bulbs (4-Pack)

$3.97

3.97÷4 = 0.99 each.


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