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* OT -- switching heating elements - 4 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/2359de19aee3537a?hl=en
* Blocking 425-336-8351 Robot Caller Parasite - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ed4180d1215897c7?hl=en
* fix-rca wsp250 wireless speakers. transmitter loses power and stops
transmitting - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/6547c961aea1b3db?hl=en
* paypal wholesale all brand(UGGBOOTS,SHOES,CLOTHES,HANDBAG,WATCH,JEANS,JERSEY,
T-SHIRT,SHIRTS,HOODY,EYEGLASS,CAP,SHAWL,WALLT) and so on. - 1 messages, 1
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TOPIC: OT -- switching heating elements
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/2359de19aee3537a?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 5:16 pm
From: "William Sommerwerck"

"Jeffrey Angus" <jangus@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
news:itom8d$233$1@dont-email.me...

> By the way, on page 3 of the users manual for the GE JBP64
> it makes a couple of interesting statements.

> 1. Make sure you appliance is properly installed and GROUNDED.
> 2. Before performing any service, disconnect the range power
> supply at the household distribution panel by removing the
> fuse or switching off the circuit breaker.

> But what I find really interesting...
> "Do not attempt to repair or replace any part of your range
> unless is specifically recommended in the manual. All other
> servicing should be referred to a qualified technician."

I am an qualified technician -- despite what you might think.

> Well, William, wanna give it another go at how you're the
> victim here of a corporation's greed?

I'm not anybody's victim.

> Remember, it ONLY takes ONE switch to OPEN a series circuit.
> That is ALL that is required to control whether or not the
> element gets hot or cools off.

You were not paying attention! Any heating device that uses both "phases"
requres TWO switches to open it.

> Oh, and by the way, since you brought it up, the bit about
> both of the 240 volt sources being "hot with respect to
> neutral". The heating elements are connected ACROSS the 240
> VAC source, NOT split with each half going from the two
> sources to neutral. (That would require a double contact to
> turn each PAIR of heating elements on and off.)

I'm not sure what you're talking about. First, there is no "240V" source in
my condo. There are multiple 120V sources from which you can get higher
voltages by spanning them. (I assume each voltage is referenced to some
"neutral" point.) In my preceding apartment, I took advantage of this to
build a break-out box -- all to code, I have several electrician friends who
advised me -- to provide individual lines for my class A power amps.

As someone else kindly pointed out, this oven has one side of its elements
hard-wired to AC. Bad, bad, bad, bad idea.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 7:11 pm
From: Jeffrey Angus

On 6/20/2011 7:16 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote:
>> Remember, it ONLY takes ONE switch to OPEN a series circuit.
>> That is ALL that is required to control whether or not the
>> element gets hot or cools off.
>
> You were not paying attention! Any heating device that uses both "phases"
> requres TWO switches to open it.
>
>
>> Oh, and by the way, since you brought it up, the bit about
>> both of the 240 volt sources being "hot with respect to
>> neutral". The heating elements are connected ACROSS the 240
>> VAC source, NOT split with each half going from the two
>> sources to neutral. (That would require a double contact to
>> turn each PAIR of heating elements on and off.)
>
> I'm not sure what you're talking about. First, there is no "240V" source in
> my condo. There are multiple 120V sources from which you can get higher
> voltages by spanning them. (I assume each voltage is referenced to some
> "neutral" point.) In my preceding apartment, I took advantage of this to
> build a break-out box -- all to code, I have several electrician friends who
> advised me -- to provide individual lines for my class A power amps.
>
> As someone else kindly pointed out, this oven has one side of its elements
> hard-wired to AC. Bad, bad, bad, bad idea.

Damn you are fucking dense William.

The heating element from one hot lead to the other hot lead.
At NO time is there a connection to Neutral. Hence it ONLY
requires a SINGLE pole switch to open a SERIES circuit.

And try not to obscure the issue by arguing about 240 volts
being a source or not. It the measured voltage between a
specific pair of 120 volt sources adds up to 240 volts, it's
a 240 volt source. Period. None of your pedantic weaseling
around is going to change that.

Jeff

--
"Everything from Crackers to Coffins"

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 8:36 pm
From: "William Sommerwerck"

"Jeffrey Angus" <jangus@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
news:itoujq$dr4$1@dont-email.me...

> Damn you are fucking dense William.
> The heating element from one hot lead to the other hot lead.
> At NO time is there a connection to Neutral. Hence it ONLY
> requires a SINGLE pole switch to open a SERIES circuit.

The oven was fixed Saturday.

Why don't you stop by, and I'll pull out the heating element part way. Then
you can touch one of the wires feeding the element with one hand, and the a
ground (such as the oven cabinet) with your other other hand.

Care to bet your life on it?

I didn't think so.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 8:44 pm
From: Jeffrey Angus

On 6/20/2011 10:36 PM, William Sommerwerck wrote:
> Why don't you stop by, and I'll pull out the heating element part way. Then
> you can touch one of the wires feeding the element with one hand, and the a
> ground (such as the oven cabinet) with your other other hand.
>
> Care to bet your life on it?

I'd be happy to idiot. I have enough sense to disconnect it first.

Jeff

--
"Everything from Crackers to Coffins"

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TOPIC: Blocking 425-336-8351 Robot Caller Parasite
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ed4180d1215897c7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 7:06 pm
From: Alias

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:50:41 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow wrote
(<news:pan.2011.06.20.19.49.40@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>):

> On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 22:54:04 +0000, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
>
>> Meat Plow wrote:
>>> Now my mom has digital phone on cable and she gets several of these
>>> calls every day. She ignores them if she doesn't recognize the caller
>>> ID. Before she switched to digital phone she seldom got telemarketing
>>> calls. I think the cable company got hacked into and phone numbers were
>>> stolen and they never told anyone. My girlfriend also has digital phone
>>> from the same cable provider and she gets telemarketing calls all day
>>> long. I asked her if she was plagued with these calls with a
>>> traditional land line with the same number and she said no. This
>>> bolsters my thinking there was a breech in the cable company's security
>>> or maybe they just flat out sold a list of numbers. Of course they
>>> would never admit to either the numerous times I've talked to them at
>>> their main office.
>>
>> Do they have a unique prefix? Here the landline numbers are
>> 02,03,04,06,08,09, cell phones 05 and the various secondary landline
>> (e.g. cable, DSL remarketers, etc are 07).
>>
>> Cell phones cost a lot to call, landlines less and the secondary
>> provider landlines are very cheap.
>>
>> Although you can port a number from one to others, no one seems to
>> notice. :-)
>>
>> Maybe they have a similar setup and call the cable phone numbers hoping
>> to get a hit without having a list.
>>
>> BTW, one way you can get around this is if you live in the US is to use
>> Google voice. You can program in a list of numbers to forward, numbers
>> to reject, numbers to go to voice mail and numbers to screen (ask for
>> name).
>>
>> Another is with a SKYPE incoming number. I cheat and have my incoming
>> voicemail message the old three tone pattern which tells an autodialer
>> its a dead number. :-) Once you get a call from a number, you can select
>> block this number and they get a number not in service error if they
>> call you.
>>
>> I wish there was a realtime black hole list for asterisk systems
>> (freeware PBX software) like there is for SPAM email addresses. I.E.
>> your asterisk system would check a database of SPAM callers and reject
>> the call, with someone maintining a global list.
>>
>> Geoff.
>
> Yeah, no prefixes here to distinguish between land, dsl, cable, or cell.
> My mom has a decent caller blocking system, I just need to get over there
> and program it for her.

You remember her address, right?

If not, it's in my .sig.

Yer welcome.

___ ___ ___
/\ \ /\__\ /\ \
/::\ \ ___ /:/ _/_ \:\ \
/:/\:\ \ ___ /\__\ /:/ /\__\ \:\ \
/:/ /::\ \ /\ \ /:/__/ /:/ /:/ _/_ _____\:\ \
/:/_/:/\:\__\\:\ \ ___ /::\ \ /:/_/:/ /\__\ /::::::::\__\
\:\/:/ \/__/ \:\ \ /\__\ \/\:\ \__ \:\/:/ /:/ / \:\~~\~~\/__/
\::/__/ \:\ /:/ / ~~\:\/\__\ \::/_/:/ / \:\ \
\:\ \ \:\/:/ / \::/ / \:\/:/ / \:\ \
\:\__\ \::/ / /:/ / \::/ / \:\__\
\/__/ \/__/ \/__/ \/__/ \/__/

WHO IS MEATPLOW from Alt.Usenet.Kooks (AUK)?

The obese, abusive, ugly, snaggle-toothed, gay 'bear' biker retard
who likes to surf gay porn sites as 'BlancoBear' while wearing only
assless chaps:

William Malone Griffith, Jr. (aka Milt, aka MeatPlow, aka BlancoBear)
308 10th Street NE
North Canton, OH 44720-2023

Evidence:
--------------------
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/5650f8e1e7dedefa
Message-ID: <fc5167ee7ad8e6f64bbe528026c00d98@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/e52ffbb346f5b764
Message-ID: <ac995ab01f76a177f4012486eb671c0e@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/a94a2a11df601e39
Message-ID: <f6ccd46e74bff6e99d49781388db38c7@rip.ax.lt>

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/msg/ef80aad2e7db945d
Message-ID: <2abe74de52d65b6046cc0bdd3c108d86@rip.ax.lt>
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MeatPlow personal info:
--------------------
Birthdate: Oct 3, 1955

Amateur Radio callsign N8NCX
Technician Plus
(2 meter, 6 meter)
--------------------

Photo of MeatPlow in Belden Village Music store:
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(Note the guitars in the background, the planet-sized head,
the rotten-Chiclet-teeth, and general look of retardation)
http://www.productwiki.com/william-malone-griffith-ii/lists/
http://images.productwiki.com/upload/images/william_malone_griffith_ii_avatar_1_0-150-150.jpg

He's got his father's nose and eyes:
http://www.legacy.com/guestbook/kentucky/guestbook.aspx?pid=2527782
http://mi-cache.legacy.com/usercontent/guestbook/photos/2005-09/6966764.jpg
--------------------

MeatPlow email addresses:
--------------------
wgriffit at neo.rr.com (neo = North East Ohio)
mhywattt at yahoo.com
mhywatt at yahoo.com
--------------------

MeatPlow admits to being from Ohio:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.07.01@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.17.23.09.38@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
--------------------

MeatPlow's brushes with the law:
--------------------
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/crim/crim_display_docket_main?pass_case_no=11543&pass_case_type=VBD&pass_case_year=2002&pass_first_name=William&pass_last_name=Griffith
http://www.starkcountycjis.org/civil/civil_display_docket_main?case_year_no=2009-3533&litigant_txt=Griffith
--------------------

MeatPlow quotes:
--------------------
Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.18.22.21.28@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I have no shame here in Usenet."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.20.01.22.52@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I'd bet $200.00 of that Keiser money you still have that you will
leave before me."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.08.32@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"You know i have a legal team who specializes in internet law. And I
won't hesitate to get them in on the action."

Message-ID: <pan.2011.05.25.00.16.43@emutt.macspoofer.lmao>
"I haven't changed nor do I plan on it any time in the near future.
And yes I am bullet-proof as I have proved it."

MeatPlow visits a massage parlor for a Happy Ending massage.
But they refused to give him a Happy Ending his second time there.
That explains why he's gay, he can't even PAY for HAND JOBS from
women.
http://www.clreviews.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11679
"One time I got a HE, and the 2nd time I didn't. I was asked if I was
there both times and said I was. That's is why I didn't know if I said
something wrong the 2nd time which made me not get a HE."

Well, at least we know what he does with his weekends.
--------------------

Oh, William, what would yer family say if they learned yer secrets?

Sister:
..------------------------------.
| Pamela L. & Roger R. Werling |
| { son Todd E. Werling } |
| { son Chris (Kennesaw, GA) } |
| { son Keith } |
| { son Easton } |
| { son Zakary } |
| { daughter Camella } |
| |
| 7704 Bisque Court |
| Fort Wayne, IN 46825-3501 |
| 260-489-6086 |
'------------------------------'

Sister:
..-----------------------------------------------.
| Cheryl J. & Jason 'Sparky' Humberto E. Rivera |
| { daughter Christina } |
| { daughter Rosalio (North Canton, OH) } |
| { daughter Maria (North Canton, OH) } |
| { son Len Gray (Ft. Worth, TX) } |
| |
| 5225 Echo Valley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-9702 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| Belden Village Music |
| 6787 Wales Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720 |
| beldenvillagemusic.com |
| 330-497-9292 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| Rosalio B & Maria I Rivera |
| 444 Wales Rd. NE |
| Massillon, OH 44646-5875 |
| 330-833-4291 |
|-----------------------------------------------|
| PO Box 35093 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'-----------------------------------------------'

Sister:
..----------------------------------------.
| Carol L. & Ric A. Campbell |
| { son Richard } |
| { son Christopher (North Canton, OH) } |
| { son Brandon († 30 May 1996) } |
| { daughter Erin } |
| |
| 6794 William Tell Ave NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-6546 |
| 330-497-7980 |
| 330-499-5107 |
|----------------------------------------|
| PO Box 36473 |
| Canton, OH 44735 |
'----------------------------------------'

Sister:
..-----------------------------------.
| Christine H. & Shelton M. Vick |
| { son Matthew } |
| |
| 3915 Harvard Ave NW |
| Canton, OH 44709-1538 |
| 330-493-5645 |
|-----------------------------------|
| Re/Max Edge Realty |
| North Canton / Massillon / Canton |
| Realtor Christine H. Vick |
| |
| 6929 Portage St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-6535 |
| 330-236-5100 |
| 888-830-6509 (fax) |
| 330-904-0883 (cell) |
| www.MyOhioHomeFinder.com |
| MyOhioHomeFinder@gmail.com |
'-----------------------------------'

Sister:
..-----------------------------.
| Angela C. & Mark Warshefski |
| |
| 11 SE 12th St. |
| Pompano Beach, FL 33060 |
| 954-785-4716 |
|-----------------------------|
| 4760 Echovalley St. NW |
| North Canton, OH 44720-7504 |
| 330-942-0584 |
'-----------------------------'

Cousin:
..---------------------.
| Donna L. Dailey |
| |
| 524 5th St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-2416 |
|---------------------|
| Bergholz Super Mart |
| 861 Washington St. |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
| 740-768-1018 |
|---------------------|
| Bergholz, OH EMT |
'---------------------'

Cousin:
..--------------------.
| Bill & Joyce Leas |
| { son Billy } |
| |
| 243 2nd St |
| Bergholz, OH 43908 |
'--------------------'

Niece:
..----------------------------.
| Rachel & Adam T. Livengood |
| { son Lukas } |
| { daughter Lauren } |
| |
| 6342 Palmer Dr. NW |
| Canton, OH 44718 |
| 330-497-7754 |
'----------------------------'

What would the employees at yer family's
business say if they learned yer secrets?
..--------------------------------.
| Ohio Kentucky Oil Corporation |
| aka Ohio Oil & Gas Exploration |
| |
| 5112 Portage St. NW |
| Canton, OH 44720-6856 |
| (330) 494-8810 |
| (330) 497-7980 |
|--------------------------------|
| 110 E. Lowry Lane |
| Lexington, KY 40503 |
| (800) BUY 4 OIL |
| (800) 289-4645 |
| (859) 223-5656 |
| (859) 223-5946 |
| (859) 276-0699 (fax) |
| (859) 276-3500 |
| (859) 276-4080 |
|--------------------------------|
| http://www.ohiokentuckyoil.com |
| oilstrike@insightbb.com |
| admin@ohiokentuckyoil.net |
'--------------------------------'

William Malone Griffith, II's grovelfest of an apology for being a
fucktard stauker:
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http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/browse_thread/thread/8d753c94bd612f4e
http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/3859383/meat_plow_exposed
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/c9fccf0d1ab26ace
Message-ID: <3n4c2e.bi4.17.1@news.alt.net>

Title: Apology to Charles Novins

The witnesses to this abject, groveling apology:

Angela Griffith = Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski, William Malone
Griffith, Jr.'s sister

Catherine Griffith = William Malone Griffith, Jr.'s mother

Julia M. Griffith = ?

Cheri Griffith = Cheryl J. Griffith-Rivera, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

Justin Griffith = ?

Kristy Griffith = Christine H. Griffith-Vick, William Malone Griffith,
Jr.'s sister

-----

Questions yet to be answered:
Who are Julia M. Griffith and Justin Griffith?

Angela C. Griffith-Warshefski came all the way from Pompano Beach,
Florida to witness and sign MeatPlow's apology letter?

Or did William Malone Griffith, Jr. forge the witness signatures,
which would indicate some level of insincerity in the apology?

If William Malone Griffith, Jr. did indeed forge the witness
signatures, is his family cognizant of him using them in this way?
==================================================

The exit is -.
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thataway

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TOPIC: fix-rca wsp250 wireless speakers. transmitter loses power and stops
transmitting
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 20 2011 9:09 pm
From: "Robert Belisle"

Rca wsp250 wireless transmitter stopped transmitting after 1 to 2 mins.

I found that Q3 when the middle leg was touched, the transmitter came back
to life.

I bridged the middle leg of Q3 with the leg directly next to r11 with solder
and the transmitter now works fine and has for 2 weeks straight.

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== 1 of 1 ==
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