Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 3 topics

"David Farber" <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Jul 16 03:30PM -0700

Ken wrote:
 
> To tell you the truth, I would not put too much labor into this model
> computer. Especially with it's history. You could be making a career
> choice.
 
Hi Ken,
 
For $80 I can send the motherboard in to have the GPU reflowed and have a
modified heat sink installed to keep it from overheating again. It comes
with a 60 day warranty. The gentleman that fixes it says he's had a very
high success rate and if he can't fix it, there's no charge and free return
shipping. I'm curious enough to see if that will fix it for good. If this
all works out, I'll let you know.
 
Thanks for your reply.
--
David Farber
Los Osos, CA
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Jul 16 07:22PM -0700

On Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:30:30 -0700, "David Farber"
>high success rate and if he can't fix it, there's no charge and free return
>shipping. I'm curious enough to see if that will fix it for good. If this
>all works out, I'll let you know.
 
I also send out the boards for repair. I have the same hot air SMT
desolding station, but have had lousy luck with reflowing the video
chips. Of the various HP and Dell laptops with the alleged Nvidia
problem, I've only successfully (long term) repaired 2 out of 7
attempts. The big problem is that I can't easily operate the
motherboard outside of the case to see if I've succeeded. If I wanted
to continue doing these repairs, I would need to build a fixture.
 
There are three types of repairs for this problem. The cheap and easy
fix is to reflow the BGA video chip and hope that it hold. It usually
will if you don't bend the motherboard when you reinstall it. That's
probably why both yours and my reflow jobs were failing after a few
days. The not so cheap solution is to remove the chip, clean up the
pads, and reflow solder a new chip in it's place. That's much more
work, more expensive, but far more reliable. There are also those
that will remove the chip, clean off both the chip and the PCB, and
reball the motherboard. I've only had one of those done, and it
worked just fine, proving that there's probably nothing wrong with the
Nvidia video chips. It's possible that the vendors that replace the
chips are using recycled chips in this manner.
 
Some people have made a business out of replacing the chips, so prices
have fallen.
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/230491379295>
 
Ask your vendor if they replace and/or reball the video chip. If so,
they're probably ok. If they only reflow the existing chip with a
heat gun or oven, you may have problems.
 
Incidentally, I had no luck when I tried to reflow the motherboard in
a toast oven. I only did one and it was totally dead when I was done.
Oops. However, these JetDirect cards worked 100%. However, LJ2300
controller cards had only one success out of three:
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/repair/BGA%20reflow/>
 
 
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
"David Farber" <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Jul 17 08:55AM -0700

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> Oops. However, these JetDirect cards worked 100%. However, LJ2300
> controller cards had only one success out of three:
> <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/repair/BGA%20reflow/>
 
Hi Jeff,
 
I just sent an e-mail to the eBay vendor you linked and directly quoted your
question about whether or not they do just a reflow or replace and/or reball
the chip.
 
It turns out the guy that I was going to send my board to for an $80 repair
needs the entire laptop so I nixed that idea.
 
Thanks for your reply.
--
David Farber
Los Osos, CA
MJC <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com>: Jul 17 11:20AM +0100

In article <55a7a649$0$12482$862e30e2@ngroups.net>, lugnut808
@spam.yahoo.com says...
> You make a good point, some CRT TVs are quite efficient. Also I like
> the idea of having a particle accelerator in the living room.
 
You've probably got one in the kitchen, too!
Chris Jones <lugnut808@spam.yahoo.com>: Jul 18 12:28AM +1000

On 17/07/2015 20:20, MJC wrote:
>> You make a good point, some CRT TVs are quite efficient. Also I like
>> the idea of having a particle accelerator in the living room.
 
> You've probably got one in the kitchen, too!
 
Yes, I guess it will be a while before a GaN FET will be cheaper than
those bits of metal and magnets, and a good while longer before they are
anywhere near as robust.
N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Jul 17 11:59AM +0100

Having maintained this deck over the years, new silicone rubber bands ,
tyres and pinchwheel etc. Annoying having to drop out just because a
white plastic wishbone/quadrant arm linkage thing has dropped out and
laying in the bottom of the casing. Buggered if I can see where it has
dropped out from. I can manually turn the capstan with REW engaged and
by pushing a lever over, by finger, the REW mechanism will engage but I
cannot see where and how this linkage does the job of my finger.
Full SM with exploded views seems to have a different mechanical deck
to this AD F220.
neither
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/aiwa_stereo_casette_deck_ad_f2.html
or
http://gooroo-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2010/06/1986-deck-aiwa-f220-magnetofon-kasetowy.html
have a pic of the right area . Google images has failed, no type number
on the deck or in the manual that I can find, unless 58-3-25 is the deck
type, rubber stamped with red ink like the 1983 date in black ink.
Any other ideas?
N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Jul 17 12:30PM +0100

That widget is nothing to do with REW it is one of the levers active
from the "top" ledge of a cassette, the one for the REC inhibit slot,
dislodged.
So something wrong with the power-take off cam system presumably, not so
straightforward as replacing a linkage.
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