Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 16 updates in 5 topics

pedro <me@privacy.net>: Nov 01 12:03PM +0800

Dumb question (answer not apparent from your post):
 
Have you tried installing a HD?
mroberds@att.net: Nov 01 06:45AM

> The battery has gone from not working to running the laptop, so looks
> like it's actually charging.
 
Have you tried running it on just the AC adapter, with the battery
removed? Is the AC adapter the original one that goes with this
machine, or a good one that may not match the machine, or a random
Chinese "120 W Laptop Power Supply Top Best only $1.37" thing?
 
> CD spins up
> No light on the screen.
> Nothing on the VGA external monitor
 
Did you try an HDMI monitor? It might be set to "prefer" that when
starting.
 
Have you tried shining a strong flashlight at the built-in monitor when
booting? Sometimes if the backlight is broken, you can at least see if
it's trying to put any text on the screen that way.
 
Does it beep? How about plugging some powered speakers into the audio
jack at bootup? Startup chimes (rather than beeps) are more of an Apple
thing, but maybe it's trying to tell your ears something.
 
Is there a built-in SD/microSD card reader that might have a card in it?
If so, eject the card (if you can), and try again.
 
> If I remove the RAM, it powers up and the fans run
> continuously.
> Replacing the RAM doesn't help.
 
Do you know if *all* the fans are working? Sometimes laptops refuse to
run if the (internal) main CPU fan isn't turning, or isn't turning fast
enough. Maybe put your fingers or some tissue paper near the vent slots
while booting, to see if any air is moving.
 
> There are a LOT of variables on the bios file formats and file names
> and keypresses required to initiate the USB recovery process.
 
I've never tried to update a UEFI BIOS, either under normal or rescue
conditions, so I don't have any specific advice on that.
 
Matt Roberds
jurb6006@gmail.com: Nov 01 08:30AM -0800

Sometimes you can remove the CMOS battery and all the RAM and reboot a couple of times. Then when you put it all back in, if it comes up with "BIOS checksum error defaults loaded" you are in luck.
 
That trick has worked for me several times. Not last time, that thing did run, I reloaded Win 7 in it and even registered it. Then it got sat on a shelf. Then I went to sell it but the guy didn't want it so I takes it home and figured hell I'll just use it a little bit and we were back to no boot. Must be a bad mobo, found it is an elcheapo and they way too much, it was a Dell and has an ECS I think mobo in it and I am not paying $60 for an outdated board.
 
But I think you are down to the BIOS, or a bad mobo or processor.
jurb6006@gmail.com: Oct 31 08:34PM -0700

>"...aises or
>lowers the backlight to compensate. Has nothing
>to do with color temp. "
 
So you are referencing color temp to nothing ? There has to be something you can see to tell you if there is the proper amount of red, green and blue. How do you do that ?
stratus46@yahoo.com: Nov 01 01:20AM -0700

> >lowers the backlight to compensate. Has nothing
> >to do with color temp. "
 
> So you are referencing color temp to nothing ? There has to be something you can see to tell you if there is the proper amount of red, green and blue. How do you do that ?
 
I don't think he does. He appears to rely on the stability of the newer TVs and just sets up the user controls.
 

thekmanrocks@gmail.com: Nov 01 02:46AM -0800

jurb...@gmail.com, stra...@yahoo.com:
 
 
http://www.steves-digicams.com/accessories/spyder3_display_calibrate8.jpg
 
!
jurb6006@gmail.com: Nov 01 08:20AM -0800

> jurb...@gmail.com, stra...@yahoo.com:
 
> http://www.steves-digicams.com/accessories/spyder3_display_calibrate8.jpg
 
> !
 
Yup, that's what I was talking about. I knew there must be something out there.
bv4bv4bv4@gmail.com: Oct 31 11:57AM -0700

Why Muslim Women Wear the Veil
 
Description: Even in the face of adversity Muslim women choose to obey God.
 
In recent years, a small piece of cloth has managed to cause quite a stir. The scarf or hijab that Muslim women wear on their heads is making headlines around the world. Hijab is banned in French public schools and other European countries have adopted, or are drafting similar legislation. In Australia, a radio presenter triggered both debate and outrage when he called for the face veil (niqab) to be banned from banks and post offices. Even predominantly Muslim countries such as Turkey and Tunisia ban the hijab in certain government buildings. When a small piece of fabric causes such controversy and conflict, wouldn't it be easier to remove it? Why then, under such circumstances, do Muslim women wear scarves?
 
There are a myriad of reasons why, but the easy, one sentence answer is, because they believe God has made it an obligation for believing women. In the Quran God tells the believing men and women to lower their gaze and to dress modestly. He (God) specifically addresses women when He asks them not to show off their adornment, except that which is apparent, and draw their veils over their bodies. (Quran 24:30-31)
 
These verses of Quran are known as the verses of hijab and it is the consensus of Islamic scholars that they make the wearing of hijab mandatory. Some countries, such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar do enforce a dress code. Women there are expected to cover their hair and wear some sort of loose fitting, full-length garment over their clothes. However, for the majority of Muslim women around the world, to cover, or not to cover, is a freely made choice. God requires Muslim women to dress modestly and to wear the hijab in public and in the presence of men who are not close relatives.
 
Although the English word scarf and the Arabic term hijab have become interchangeable, it is worth noting that hijab is more than just a scarf. It is a term that covers a variety of clothing including scarves, but also a variety of different dress styles from around the world. Many have cultural connotations such as the Pakistani shalwar khamis or the Afghani burqa, but whenever a Muslim woman covers "her adornment", she is said to be wearing hijab.
 
The literal meaning of hijab is to veil, to cover, or to screen. Islam is known as a religion concerned with community cohesion and moral boundaries, and therefore hijab is a way of ensuring that the moral boundaries between unrelated men and women are respected. In this sense, the term hijab encompasses more than a scarf and more then a dress code. It is a term that denotes modest dressing and modest behaviour. For instance, if a Muslim woman was wearing a scarf but at the same time using bad language, she would not be fulfilling the requirements of hijab.
 
The majority of Muslim women wear hijab, to obey God, and to be known as respectable women. (Quran 33:59) However, in the last 30 years hijab has emerged as a sign of Islamic consciousness. Many women see wearing the hijab as indicative of their desire to be part of an Islamic revival, especially in countries where the practice of Islam is discouraged or even forbidden.
 
While those who seek to ban hijab refer to it as a symbol of gender based repression, the women who choose to don a scarf, or to wear hijab, in the broadest sense of the word, do so by making personal decisions and independent choices. They view it as a right and not a burden. Nor do these women regard hijab as a sign of oppression. Women who wear hijab often describe themselves as being "set free" from society's unrealistic fashion culture.
 
Hijab frees women from being thought of as sexual objects of desire or from being valued for their looks, or body shape rather then their minds and intellect. No longer slaves to consumerism, hijab liberates women from the need to conform to unrealistic stereotypes and images dictated by the media. Women wearing hijab have expressed that dressing modestly and covering their hair, minimises sexual harassment in the workplace. The aura of privacy created by hijab is indicative of the great value Islam places upon women.
 
It is true that in some families and in some cultures women are forced to wear hijab but this is not the norm. The Quran clearly states that there is no compulsion in religion (2:256). Women who choose to wear hijab do not make the decision lightly. In fact many women testify that they faced great animosity from their Muslim or non-Muslim families when they decided to cover. Across the globe there are numerous instances of women having to defend their right to wear the hijab.
 
Hijab can be a symbol of piety and it can be a sign of great inner strength and fortitude. A woman wearing hijab becomes a very visible sign of Islam. While Muslim men can blend easily into any society, Muslim woman are often put on the line, and forced to defend not only their decision to cover, but also their religion. Nevertheless, women who wear hijab insist that the advantages far outweigh any disadvantage conjured up by media bias or general ignorance.
 
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/2770/why-muslim-women-wear-veil/
 
Thank you
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Oct 31 01:20PM -0700


> Hijab can be a symbol of piety and it can be a sign of great inner strength and fortitude. A woman wearing hijab becomes a very visible sign of Islam.. While Muslim men can blend easily into any society, Muslim woman are often put on the line, and forced to defend not only their decision to cover, but also their religion. Nevertheless, women who wear hijab insist that the advantages far outweigh any disadvantage conjured up by media bias or general ignorance.
 
> http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/2770/why-muslim-women-wear-veil/
 
> Thank you
 
Not everyone (Moslem or otherwise) agrees with your interpretation of
Quran 33:59 about the wearing of the hijab:
 
http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_301_350/misinterpretation_of_qur.htm
 
Unless you can read the original Arabic writings of the Prophet then you
are merely parroting an interpretation, and you have no direct knowledge
of the validity of the translation.
 
"From the gross liberties taken in translating the text, apparently the
translators believe that God wishes women to be like house broken dogs
-loyal, timid, sweet and obedient. One can only ponder what type of
rotted and foul soul imagines that God wishes to imprison women in a
sewer of squalid male egos, and suffer because men cannot
control their libidos. What an ugly picture they have created of God's
compassion and mercy." [Taken from: Conference of the Books, Abou el
Fadl, p. 290-301]
 
You are welcome!
 
John
"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid>: Oct 31 04:46PM -0400

Per John Robertson:
> put on the line, and forced to defend not only their decision to cover, but also
> their religion. Nevertheless, women who wear hijab insist that the advantages
> far outweigh any disadvantage conjured up by media bias or general ignorance.
 
All well and good in one's country of origin.
 
But for those people who come to Western countries because they are
hoping to find a better life in the West.... Like the absence of
religious police removing women's lipstick with sandpaper or half the
population living as in the Middle Ages or a literacy level so low it's
hardly on the charts... or fanatics that think somebody should be
murdered if they change over to another religion.....
 
I would suggest that part of the reason that whatever Western country
they are going to is so much better a place to live is that people don't
go around with their faces covered.... and if somebody insists on doing
that, they are chipping away at what made their new home a better place
to live in the first place......
 
Maybe very small chips.... but chips, nevertheless.
 
Western countries, and the USA especially, tolerate all manner of
individual behavior and appearance.
 
By-and-large, nobody cares what you do on Friday, Saturday, or Sunday -
as long as you can do a job.
 
But going around with the face covered is a whole different thing.
 
With the face covered, you do not appear as "different" person as you
would be with a kippah, or a crucifix, or kilts, or tattoos or
whatever.... instead, it makes you appear as a non-person - and that's
not good for anybody.
 
"When in Rome....."
--
Pete Cresswell
jurb6006@gmail.com: Oct 31 03:44PM -0700

Nope, it is because of so many rapists. They got so many rapists it is practically legal. And now with the shortage of Women in Afghanistan they are raping little boys.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html?_r=0
"(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid>: Oct 31 07:42PM -0400

Per (PeteCresswell):
>Per John Robertson:
>> Hijab can be a s
 
My apologies go out to John Robertson for my careless quote attribution.
 
John did *NOT* say what I quoted - rather the quote was from the post
that he was replying to.
 
Mea Culpa.
--
Pete Cresswell
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Oct 31 11:54PM -0700

On 10/31/2015 4:42 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
 
> John did *NOT* say what I quoted - rather the quote was from the post
> that he was replying to.
 
> Mea Culpa.
 
I didn't think you meant that I said what you quoted - I have no problem
with your previous post!
 
We had an interesting situation here in Canada with our recent federal
election. The party that had been in power for about ten years said they
were going to ban the Hijab...and lost the election when the minorities
realized that "First they came for the (Hijab)..." and woke up to the
venom that was buried in that potential ban.
 
I have nothing against the Hijab as a form of dress - though it seems
silly to me, why cover beauty? Are some men that weak? Then those men
need to grow up.
 
However what I've read indicates that the Prophet did not say that women
must cover their faces, nor be subservient to men as a religious edict.
 
John :-#)#
"Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com>: Nov 01 08:09AM -0500

(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> on doing that, they are chipping away at what made their new home a
> better place to live in the first place......
 
> Maybe very small chips.... but chips, nevertheless.
 
What made their new home a better place also includes free enterprise,
and if people immigrate with socialist ideas that chips away at it too.
 
Just sayin'.
 
 
> would be with a kippah, or a crucifix, or kilts, or tattoos or
> whatever.... instead, it makes you appear as a non-person - and that's
> not good for anybody.
 
It's certainly not good for civil society. But it's wrong to ban the
hajib. It's not wrong to regulate immigration from selected countries.
 
--
hrhofmann@att.net: Oct 31 07:15PM -0700

My sump pumps run for as little as 30 seconds per hour to almost continuous operation. The temperature will depend on the load.
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>: Oct 31 04:44PM -0400

> How the hell do these posts get on other websites ?
 
> http://www.edaboard.co.uk/hp-3561a-t553464.html
 
They're just like Google Groups--parasitic but sometimes useful.
electronicsrelated.com is the same sort of thing.
 
Cheers
 
Phil Hobbs
 
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
 
160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
 
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
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