Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 6 updates in 3 topics

Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>: Apr 22 07:47PM

Thanks for that correction, Jeff. Yes, in my haste I got the wrong term
for the component in question. Must be my advancing age. :(
crapler8@gmail.com: Apr 22 04:42PM -0700

rosoft Help
 
 
 
got to www.cccam-host.net
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Apr 22 06:44PM -0700

Cursitor Doom wrote:
> of a matchbox and they tend to fail short and blow the fuse. The ones
> I've seen are usually rated for 1A since the only stuff I do is low
> power.
 
** Going short circuit is likely the result of one of the capacitors across the AC line failing - generally these are "class X" types which have a limited life expectancy. The other possibility is the "common mode" choke but that is very unlikely.
 
 
> However, some of that low power stuff is test equipment with SMPSs
> that initially look like a short circuit at power-on. I think this is
> what blows those filters.
 
** Very unlikely too. The surge current may be quite large but also very brief, so not enough energy to damage copper winding wire which in any case would blow open.
 
 
> Early SMPS designs didn't seem to pay much
> attention to surge prevention
 
** So the equipment IS rather old ? Like 20 years +
 
> so I'm wondering if it would pay to
> retrospectively fit MOVs at the beginning of the SMPS section to prolong
> filter and power supply life (hopefully).
 
** Small SMPSs can use a resistor in series with the supply to limit surges - say 5 or 10 ohms, wire-wound. Otherwise it is normal to use an NTC thermistor with similar cold resistance values.
 
The resistor or NTC limits the surge current to a value that is tolerated indefinitely by fuses, diodes and switches used in the PSU - ie something like 20amps peak for a couple of milliseconds.
 
PSU makers also have to consider the situation where multiple supplies are on the same AC circuit and all switched together creating a very large surge that may trip the breaker.
 
 
.... Phil
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>: Apr 23 10:38AM

On Fri, 22 Apr 2016 18:44:11 -0700, Phil Allison wrote:
 
> across the AC line failing - generally these are "class X" types which
> have a limited life expectancy. The other possibility is the "common
> mode" choke but that is very unlikely.
 
Yes, most like a cap.
 
> ** So the equipment IS rather old ? Like 20 years +
 
Almost always. Typically 70s & 80s. I can't deal with SMDs anyway.

> ** Small SMPSs can use a resistor in series with the supply to limit
> surges - say 5 or 10 ohms, wire-wound. Otherwise it is normal to use an
> NTC thermistor with similar cold resistance values.
 
Noted, thank you.
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Apr 22 06:39PM -0700

On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 03:56:16 -0700 (PDT), thekmanrocks@gmail.com
wrote:
 
>You actually got that "Lightscribe" thing
>to work??
 
Not me. I tried it a few times and gave up. It takes forever,
produces ugly looking monochrome CD labels, requires special expensive
media, and seems to use buggy HP software:
<http://hubpages.com/technology/lightscribe>
No thanks. An inkjet CD printer works better.
<https://printinginnovations.cusa.canon.com/pixma/cd_dvd_printing>
However, if it ever can be made to work in color or obtain better mono
contrast, I might try again.
 
 
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"Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com>: Apr 22 09:03PM +0100

My MSI945GZM motherboard is getting flaky, the only other MOBO I have is a
MSI MS7204 (945P).
 
The GZM has a normal CPU cooler - the 945P has a huge cooler with copper
pipes running through a big stack of fins. That cooler overhangs the edge of
the board and won't fit a case that has drive bays.
 
Is there an information resource that deals with which coolers can be used
with what boards/CPUs?
 
Thanks.
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