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| jurb6006@gmail.com: Jul 02 10:42PM -0700 Expand the VA system to include everyone and put the private hospitals out of business, and then buy them for pennies on the dollar. I know two people now who refuse full time work because of the cost of medical care. And now or soon companies over a certain gross are supposed to supply it. So now we will have a bunch of people working less the 30 hours a week for the $15 minimum wage. And these assholes thing they are going buy a new car and house on $450 a week, after paying a grand a month for health insurance. (I do not mean those employees who took the job because it was all hat was out there, I mean the "social engineers" who caused the problem) The government HAS a single payer system in place, just expand that and become serious competition with these gouging motherfuckers and show them what it means to lose money because you just went too far. I'll slide the penny under the door. T^T |
| "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Jul 03 04:14AM -0700 > Expand the VA system to include everyone and put the private hospitals out of business, and then buy them for pennies on the dollar. Like most simple solutions, it is not all that simple. a) The VA healthcare system is a mixed bag at best. Entirely wretched for the majority of veterans once past immediate wound care and immediate rehabilitation - such as it is. Pretty good whilst the patient is still bleeding from the initial trauma. b) The general public is not about to put up with that level of care, free or otherwise. Full Stop. c) The Medical Profession attracts a certain type of individual because of the prestige (and money) attached, not only for the 'doing good for others' part. Once the medical profession is reduced to patient-factory processing, both those aspects will go away. d) CHOP/UPenn completed the first full double hand transplant on an 8 year old boy about a year ago. Successful, so far. http://www.chop.edu/news/world-s-first-bilateral-hand-transplant-child-performed-children-s-hospital-philadelphia#.V3jzRLgrK00 That sort of thing will come to a complete stop under the patient-factory model. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
| etpm@whidbey.com: Jul 02 01:29PM -0700 On Fri, 01 Jul 2016 14:24:45 -0500, Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> wrote: >battery was still showing 12.57 V, I think you are done (other than >recharging it from that test.) >Jon Thanks for the reply Jon. I think I'll try a few charge/discharge cycles. Eric |
| etpm@whidbey.com: Jul 02 01:30PM -0700 On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 12:26:13 -0700 (PDT), "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote: >If you do have points, while you are in there, do the condenser as well. And check the coil. Again, if it is of that vintage technology. >Peter Wieck >Melrose Park, PA The forklift starts right away. The 60 seconds of cranking I did was with the fuel shut off. I was trying to see if the battery voltage would drop below 12 volts. Eric |
| etpm@whidbey.com: Jul 02 01:33PM -0700 >to try asymetric/biaced ac charging, using ac with more positive >component than negative, so 50/60Hz charge/discharge cycling, can't >remember current required per Ah I have no idea how I would make the sort charger like you describe. It looks like I have done all I can do with my capabilities so I'll just have to see how well the battery holds a charge for several days. Cheers, Eric |
| Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146@earthlink.net>: Jul 02 04:29PM -0400 In article <h09gnbl8e5eej72i0hpg5ivhjkgk737f8t@4ax.com>, etpm@whidbey.com says... > with the fuel shut off. I was trying to see if the battery voltage > would drop below 12 volts. > Eric When you checked the battery voltage was it under a load ? Most of the time even a weak battery will come up to voltage without a load on it. |
| etpm@whidbey.com: Jul 02 04:16PM -0700 On Sat, 2 Jul 2016 16:29:05 -0400, Ralph Mowery >> Eric >When you checked the battery voltage was it under a load ? Most of the >time even a weak battery will come up to voltage without a load on it. During cranking the voltage dropped to 12.1 volts. I expected it might drop down to around 11.5 volts, which would be in the normal range, or even lower. At this time I'm pretty sure the battery has lost some significant amount of operating life but I'm also thinking that what shorted one cell was a small amount of sulfation and that it is apparently gone now. The next time I'm by an auto parts store or hardware store I'm gonna buy a hydrometer to see if the specific gravity of any particular cell is way low. Eric |
| jurb6006@gmail.com: Jul 02 09:32PM -0700 On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 4:55:27 AM UTC-5, N_Cook wrote: > to try asymetric/biaced ac charging, using ac with more positive > component than negative, so 50/60Hz charge/discharge cycling, can't > remember current required per Ah Yeah but if you use significant current on either AC or FC the battery heats up and may explode. |
| "Larry" <larry17@gmail.com>: Jul 03 03:30PM +1000 wrote in message news:649gnb5td540d3tii4bk0poki0nsq1kdcc@4ax.com... >to try asymetric/biaced ac charging, using ac with more positive >component than negative, so 50/60Hz charge/discharge cycling, can't >remember current required per Ah I have no idea how I would make the sort charger like you describe. It looks like I have done all I can do with my capabilities so I'll just have to see how well the battery holds a charge for several days. Cheers, Eric *** Lots on this subject on YouTube. If you are going to throw it away anyway - have a look at some of the videos... Larry |
| Rheilly Phoull <rheilly@bigslong.com>: Jul 03 02:06PM +0800 >> component than negative, so 50/60Hz charge/discharge cycling, can't >> remember current required per Ah > Yeah but if you use significant current on either AC or FC the battery heats up and may explode. Didn't the OP say he cranked for 60 secs and the voltage stayed at 12v ?? If that can be done I would still consider the battery as OK. |
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