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Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>: Aug 10 09:33AM -0700 I am attempting Android setup perfection - therefore I ask for your suggestions for improvement...   As an experiment, today I reset my ancient S3 not-rooted Android phone to factory defaults, and reinstalled all the previously existing apps from the flash card (all without Google Play, the cloud, or a computer).   Here is a screenshot of the near-perfect desktop: http://i.cubeupload.com/FDrkG8.png   Most apps seem to work just fine without a Google Play account: http://i.cubeupload.com/TUcOci.gif   I ask for improvement suggestions in the following three areas: - Either improvement in organization - Or improvement in missing apps - Or further improvement in eliminating Google altogether   In a nutshell, here is what I did: 1. I reset the phone to factory defaults. 2. I installed the old apps from APKs on the sdcard. 3. Almost all the apps work just fine without a Google Play account!   The AppDrawer contains these 112 apps (some are T-Mobile required): 1) http://i.cubeupload.com/a9pq83.png 2) http://i.cubeupload.com/10PUFW.png 3) http://i.cubeupload.com/8kwCAX.png 4) http://i.cubeupload.com/bqA8GT.png 5) http://i.cubeupload.com/WkHNno.png 6) http://i.cubeupload.com/LACM69.png   The single desktop is set up with three goals in mind: A. Pyramid shape, most used apps on top, left to right. B. Apps never more than 1 or 2 taps away (most used are 1 tap) C. Folders organized with most used apps left to right.   Note 1: Unused or rarely used apps remain in the app drawer. Note 2: App icons can (and should) be in multiple logical places. Note 3: The "Google" folder exists to test for spyware logins.   I'm constantly improving with the goal of the perfectly organized Android mobile device, so that's why I outline the setup for you to help me improve with your comments.   Here is the organizational tree as of this moment.   The top of the pyramid is the phone app (it is a phone after all!) while the bottom dock is useless in a single desktop setup - it's just the bottom row of the desktop pyramid: - phone (top of pyramid) - recorder (bottom of pyramid) - sms (bottom of pyramid) - camera (bottom of pyramid) http://i.cubeupload.com/2FkLuw.png   The folders (in pyramid location) are: a. *todo* http://i.cubeupload.com/5dayFF.png b. *communicate* http://i.cubeupload.com/U1RwzI.png c. *image* http://i.cubeupload.com/p1iDmw.png d. *audio* http://i.cubeupload.com/JSsFcm.png e. *video* http://i.cubeupload.com/y9Xhws.png f. *browser* http://i.cubeupload.com/Y5FixO.png g. *roadmap* http://i.cubeupload.com/rytr0A.png h. *outdoor map* http://i.cubeupload.com/C5w9E5.png i. *buy* http://i.cubeupload.com/r8Omha.png j. *files* http://i.cubeupload.com/hsrbfN.png k. *google* http://i.cubeupload.com/pxtfs9.png l. *network* http://i.cubeupload.com/Zwpxlu.png m. *system* http://i.cubeupload.com/zUOXcg.png   Since the goal is near perfection, I simply present to you what I've set up in a few minutes, and ask what you might suggest by way of material further improvement toward the goal of perfection.

"pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Aug 10 09:45AM -0700 On Wednesday, August 10, 2016 at 12:34:12 PM UTC-4, Aardvarks wrote: > I am attempting Android setup perfection - therefore I ask for your > suggestions for improvement...   Given your past, nothing we suggest will be 'perfect'.   With that in mind, do it yourself, and report when you reach perfection.   Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Aug 10 05:36PM +0100 Problem with the integrity of the grey ribbon IDC link between main and rear boards

Stephen <f6ceedb9c75b52f7fcc0a55cf0cfbf5d_1045@example.com>: Aug 10 03:37AM My Sanyo portable model, VCR 7300, needs the loading mechanism fixed & the tape head cleaned.   My SonyBETA model 2700-B, needs the tape head cleaned, and the backup program battery replaced, and the video board replaced (my guess). The tapes in the SONY load and play, but only the audio works. The last time I used it, the RCA vidio output went "grainy" and stopped displaying.   Do you repair these units or can you refer me to a company that does?   Thank you.   --

jurb6006@gmail.com: Aug 09 10:07PM -0700 Where are you geographically ? You could be in Timbuktu for all we know. Shipping stuff like this is an iffy thing.   Even if you brought it here, getting parts is even worse.

Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid>: Aug 10 11:22AM +0100 > Where are you geographically ? You could be in Timbuktu for all we know. Shipping stuff like this is an iffy thing.   > Even if you brought it here, getting parts is even worse.   FlashNewsgroups posts are a complete waste of time, their users unwittedly tag their innocent ramblings onto the end of dead posts and entirely lose the context (not their fault).   I recommend a global "Thread Ignore" killfile rule for sender *@example.com   And the poster should find a real usenet service   http://www.eternal-september.org/ https://news.individual.net/   -- Adrian C

thekmanrocks@gmail.com: Aug 10 04:04AM -0700 jurb, Adrian:   Why you treating the guy that way? He sounds like he has a legitimate equipment problem.

jurb6006@gmail.com: Aug 09 10:17PM -0700 >"There is no guarantee that a relay specified for use in an >automotive, 12V DC environment is suitably insulated for connection >to the AC supply - where spike voltages in the thousands occur. "   People who do not know that should not be able to get a screwdriver license or a permit for pliers. Scissors I am not so sure. If they have them they can grab their Darwin award but it is pretty hard to hurt anyone else. So I guess let them have them.

Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146@earthlink.net>: Aug 09 01:58PM -0400 In article <nocr65$d5d$1@gioia.aioe.org>, arl_123234@hotmail.com says... > extensions off-hook results in a definite "click" like you get right > before the dial tone comes on. Of course in this case you never got a > dial tone. All DTMF pads appeared to operate as expected. Sincerely,   Try measuring the voltage on the phone line. I don't recall what it is,but it will be a high DC voltage (still less than 100 volts DC) and drop to a lower voltage (maybe around 8 to 10 volts) when you pick up the phone and get a dial tone. When the phone rings there is about 100 volts on the line during the ring tones.   Then compare those voltages to another phone line in another house.           --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

"J.B. Wood" <arl_123234@hotmail.com>: Aug 09 02:40PM -0400 On 08/09/2016 01:58 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:   > the phone and get a dial tone. When the phone rings there is about 100 > volts on the line during the ring tones.   > Then compare those voltages to another phone line in another house.   Hello, and not a bad idea. IIRC the Western Electric/Bell standard uses 48 VDC (central office battery) and a ringing voltage of 85 VAC. So on-hook we should see nominally 48 VDC and off-hook would be variable depending on central office-to-subscriber set loop losses when DC line current is drawn. So there might be a situation where there's enough line current to operate the DTMF pad and produce noise in the receiver but not enough current is being drawn to signal a normal off-hook condition with the resulting dial tone. Just speculation. Sincerely,     -- J. B. Wood e-mail: arl_123234@hotmail.com

"J.B. Wood" <arl_123234@hotmail.com>: Aug 09 02:43PM -0400 On 08/09/2016 12:40 PM, Bennett wrote:   > Perhaps, next time it happens, disconnect the phones one by one. You > might have an intermittent phone causing the problem.   Already tried that when I had the problem last weekend. Pretty sure it's not in any of the 4 phones (if I include the answering machine). Sincerely,   -- J. B. Wood e-mail: arl_123234@hotmail.com

dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt): Aug 09 12:56PM -0700 In article <4jkjqb13q07on0ghfjognqs2r9icbhjt7l@4ax.com>, >scenarios that you describe for years with AT&T before the tech. told >me the buried line had water in it and that they won't replace it. Had >to go to an internet phone service.   That's unfortunate... and might well be an illegal action on their part. If they're deliberately refusing to repair a tariff-regulated landline service, in order to push customers onto a non-tariff- regulated "information" service, it might be a violation of your state's telecom regulations.   In cases like that, it sometimes helps to write a letter of complaint to the state Public Utility Commission ombudsman (or woman). Complain that AT&T has failed (and is now refusing) to perform required maintenance on their regulated wiring, and that as a result they have failed to provide you with acceptable voice-grade service for which you have been paying.   CC: it to your AT&T Customer Service contact, and perhaps to your Congresscritter and/or Senator.   Regulated utilities *hate* to have complaints about their service sent to the public bodies that regulate 'em.   I agree with another posted in this thread - it's important to make sure that your own phones are not part of the problem. More than that, it's important to be certain that none of your "inside wiring" is at fault, since this wiring typically is not any part of the telco's responsibility.   What I always do, in cases like this, is completely disconnect the inside wiring at the "demarc" block, and then plug a known-good phone into the demarc. If the problem still exists (better: if you can confirm it with two different phones and two different line cords) then it puts the responsibility for the fault right back on the telco's shoulders.   Tell the telco this, when you call: "I have confirmed that the problem remains when all customer-premises wiring and equipment is disconnected at the demarc."

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