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Horace Algiers <horace@horatio.net>: Sep 27 03:11AM

Which free police/fire scanner do you recommend that does not have
intrusive ads?
 
There's a fire, called the "Loma Fire" nearby, near the site of the big
earthquake of 89 (also probably in sight of where Jeff lives):
http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/26/santa-cruz-mountains-large-fire-burns-near-loma-prieta/
 
Some pictures are:
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-22.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/20080522__firesecondbatch2.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-24.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-23.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-sjfire-0927-004.jpg
 
Lots of WISP and radio dishes are at risk!
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-sjfire-0927-005.jpg
 
This fire started before 3pm today so is still less than 1,000 acres at
this point, but it's gonna grow bigger (I can see the flames from my house,
even at night - where the glow changes with the flames) since it's the
fastest growing mushroom cloud I've seen in years!
https://i0.wp.com/www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-02.jpg?w=620&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px
 
I had *thought* in the past that the 5.0 scanner was the best free scanner
for listening to the "CalFire SCU" frequencies.
 
But, after installing it, I was disgusted with the plethora of super
annoying ads, the likes of which I have never seen before - they're that
obnoxious.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.criticalhitsoftware.policescanner50free
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/5-0-radio-police-scanner/id356336433
 
Since the 5.0 Scanner seems to have gone completely over to the dark side,
Googling, I can find plenty of listings of other free Android & iOS
police/fire scanners, so I simply ask you for the one *you* use that has
the least amount of obtrusive ads.
 
Android:
http://www.androidauthority.com/best-police-scanner-apps-for-android-608588/
iOS:
http://journalistapps.com/2012/02/top-3-free-police-scanner-apps-iphone/
 
Which free police/fire scanner do you recommend that does not have
intrusive ads?
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Sep 26 11:19PM -0400

In article <nsco0a$vdl$1@news.mixmin.net>, Horace Algiers
 
> Which free police/fire scanner do you recommend that does not have
> intrusive ads?
 
uniden trunktracker
 
> this point, but it's gonna grow bigger (I can see the flames from my house,
> even at night - where the glow changes with the flames) since it's the
> fastest growing mushroom cloud I've seen in years!
 
you've previously said you had 'business' to do in the woods without
being tracked.
 
now we know why.
Horace Algiers <horace@horatio.net>: Sep 27 03:36AM

On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:19:34 -0400, nospam wrote:
 
> you've previously said you had 'business' to do in the woods without
> being tracked.
 
If I could only tell you the story ... I'm pretty sure the police obtained
my cellphone signals for a month on either side of a certain date of an
event which first made local news and then was spread (mostly by copying
since there wasn't any new data) to around the country, so, I had my "two
minutes" of fame as an "anonymous RP" (the police refer to me as the RP
for some reason).
 
It's interesting how the story spread - where everyone just copied the
information (both accurate and inaccurate) - but the local news had it
almost right since they talked to me and to the police afterward.
 
I can't tell you the details, but they asked questions which, had I
answered wrong, they would have known, because they *knew* the time and
place where I was in the middle of nowhere at those times.
 
Let's see what happens when/if it ever gets to court. They have the guys on
something else right now.
 
But that's for another place and time (maybe I'll tell Jeff - who certainly
heard the news - but he's probably the only one I'd tell *exactly* what
happened).
 
The net is that it's a good idea to get really good at removing the battery
or trusting airplane mode so that your cellphone doesn't tell the police
(or the bad guys) *everywhere* you've been in the past months...
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Sep 26 11:40PM -0400

In article <nscpg8$27r$1@news.mixmin.net>, Horace Algiers
 
> (the police refer to me as the RP
> for some reason).
 
i'm sure they refer to you by much more than that, but rp means
reporting party or reporting person.
Horace Algiers <horace@horatio.net>: Sep 27 03:42AM

On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:40:01 -0400, nospam wrote:
 
> i'm sure they refer to you by much more than that, but rp means
> reporting party or reporting person.
 
Heh heh ... yeah. Probably.
I do talk a lot so the detectives were writing stuff down for quite a while
(you'd think they'd use tape recorders for heaven's sake).
 
All the papers I've seen simply list me as "the RP", and even when they
introduced me to others, they referred to me verbally as "the RP".
 
I think I'll make that my next nym ...
 
Anyway, back to the free wifi scanners that *don't* have obnoxious ads!
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>: Sep 26 09:01PM -0700


> Which free police/fire scanner do you recommend that does not have
> intrusive ads?
 
Yup! I saw that you have a fire burning just below the Loma Prieta
towers. I hope that doesn't effect you too badly. I have just gone
through our scare with the "Chimney" fire.
 
I use the "5-0 Radio Pro" on my iPhone they have a free edition and and
edition which has extra feeds for $3.99.
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/5-0-radio-police-scanner/id356336433?mt=8>
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/5-0-radio-pro-police-scanner/id341776037?mt=8>
 
I use the pay edition, so I don't know if the free edition will give
you what you want. I normally monitor the San Luis Obispo County Public
Safety, San Luis Obispo and Southern Monterey Counties CalFire, which
also gives me all the air attack traffic. It gives me all the traffic I
eed for my location.
 
 
 
> There's a fire, called the "Loma Fire" nearby, near the site of the big
> earthquake of 89 (also probably in sight of where Jeff lives):
> http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/26/santa-cruz-mountains-large-fire-burns-near-loma-prieta/
 
Some
 
> pictures are:
> http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-22.jpg
> http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/20080522__firesecondbatch2.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-24.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-23.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-sjfire-0927-004.jpg
 
Lots
> even at night - where the glow changes with the flames) since it's the
> fastest growing mushroom cloud I've seen in years!
> https://i0.wp.com/www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-02.jpg?w=620&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px
 
I
> annoying ads, the likes of which I have never seen before - they're that
> obnoxious.
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.criticalhitsoftware.policescanner50free
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/5-0-radio-police-scanner/id356336433
 
Since
 
--
Regards,
 
Savageduck
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>: Sep 26 09:05PM -0700


> There's a fire, called the "Loma Fire" nearby, near the site of the big
> earthquake of 89 (also probably in sight of where Jeff lives):
> http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/26/santa-cruz-mountains-large-fire-burns-near-loma-prieta/
 
Some
 
> pictures are:
> http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-22.jpg
> http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/20080522__firesecondbatch2.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-24.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-23.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-sjfire-0927-004.jpg
 
Lots
> even at night - where the glow changes with the flames) since it's the
> fastest growing mushroom cloud I've seen in years!
> https://i0.wp.com/www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-02.jpg?w=620&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px
 
I
> annoying ads, the likes of which I have never seen before - they're that
> obnoxious.
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.criticalhitsoftware.policescanner50free
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/5-0-radio-police-scanner/id356336433
 
As
 
I said, I have the pay edition of 5-0 Radio Pro, so no ads.
 
> http://journalistapps.com/2012/02/top-3-free-police-scanner-apps-iphone/
 
> Which free police/fire scanner do you recommend that does not have
> intrusive ads?
 
If you opt for free the price you pay is ads.
 
--
Regards,
 
Savageduck
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>: Sep 26 09:21PM -0700

> Safety, San Luis Obispo and Southern Monterey Counties CalFire, which
> also gives me all the air attack traffic. It gives me all the traffic I
> eed for my location.
 
There is also this:
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/police-scanner+-free/id498408628?mt=8>
 
 
>> There's a fire, called the "Loma Fire" nearby, near the site of the big
>> earthquake of 89 (also probably in sight of where Jeff lives):
>> http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/09/26/santa-cruz-mountains-large-fire-burns-near-loma-prieta/
 
Some
 
pictures
 
>> are:
>> http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-22.jpg
>> http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/20080522__firesecondbatch2.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-24.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-23.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-sjfire-0927-004.jpg
 
Lots
 
of
>> even at night - where the glow changes with the flames) since it's the
>> fastest growing mushroom cloud I've seen in years!
>> https://i0.wp.com/www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-02.jpg?w=620&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px
 
I
 
had
>> annoying ads, the likes of which I have never seen before - they're that
>> obnoxious.
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.criticalhitsoftware.policescanner50free
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/5-0-radio-police-scanner/id356336433
 
Since
 
the
 
--
Regards,
 
Savageduck
Horace Algiers <horace@horatio.net>: Sep 27 04:29AM

On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:01:28 -0700, Savageduck wrote:
 
> Yup! I saw that you have a fire burning just below the Loma Prieta
> towers. I hope that doesn't effect you too badly. I have just gone
> through our scare with the "Chimney" fire.
 
It's close enough to see the red glow, even now, in the dark, and the
mushroom was incredible at just after 3pm. It was *huge* at the base.
 
Here's a picture of the mushroom cloud from the newspapers:
http://cdn20.patchcdn.com/users/22880691/20160926/065938/styles/T600x450/public/article_images/1-1474930500-3823.jpg
 
That picture was taken in the valley, *very far* away from the fire (maybe
30 miles because you can't see the mountain, and the fire is *on* the
mountain itself) and the base *still* looks huge - ever from that far away
and from that lousy vantage point.
 
I've seen dozens of fires in these mountains and this one isn't that large
yet (less than a thousand acres, but it's only about 5% contained, they
say), and it's moving southeast - but luckily there's almost no wind to
speak of at the moment - but that mushroom cloud just went straight up with
a *wide* column and then abruptly flattened at about 3000 or 4000 feet AGL
(I'm guessing based on the height of the mountains themselves) with the
wind up there pushing the top of the mushroom cloud south west toward the
Pacific Ocean.
 
They are evacuating people, but not us yet.

> edition which has extra feeds for $3.99.
> I use the pay edition, so I don't know if the free edition will give
> you what you want.
 
The free edition knows where I cam and so it gives me as my default station
"CalFire SCU", and it works fine - as I can hear what they say - but - it
also has obnoxious ads that I don't remember being so obnoxious in the
past.
 
For others to get an idea of what they say, here's a quick transcript of
what they're saying right now ... "we have a box built ... it will take
about an hour to complete ... we're on the way ... it's starting to pick up
... I'll come down ... ok copy ... if you could have them come down to hq
we can meet up with them ... go ahead and do traffic on command ... I got
fire on both sides of loma chiquita road ... so I will keep dozers on both
sides to maintain structure protection... yeah copy that ... are you guys
gonna maintain the dozer line from loma chiquita down south? ... same plan
as widening twin creeks road ... I'm gonna open up that road as a
contingency ... on the far north end of branch one we found a prominent
ridge on section 33 down to the 1923 ... it's 2679 on the quarter station
... santa clara county making a request all santa clara county fire
agencies ... there is an immediate need for structure protection at loma
prieta ... access is on 17 only ... we're gonna be traveling on vfire 21
over... standby ... attention all santa clara county ... immediate need for
structure protection ... incident location at summit and loma prieta ...
mutual assistance request ... access is from summit road ... type 1 engine
... at santa clara we need 1 type one engine ... from gilroy we need 1 type
one engine ... and from ... we need a strike leader ... stand by for roll
call ... yeah ... just confirming where the original icv? was ... affirming
... two sets still committed to your division at loma chiquita ... yeah ...
we're gonna head back down and do the city ... 8667 and Santa Clara 13 are
no longer on the incident ... Gilroy Fire on the red map ... Engine 47
stationary ... I'll work my way back down ... we have engine 4323 getting
ready to go ... advise if available ... negative ... they just left the
stationary areay ... recommit them and bring them to the summit! ... branch
c do not recommit them without going to the ic first! ... Ic on command!
... is IC on command? ... do not release additional resources without
going to me first! ... branch v I just got pulled over ... can you give me
a description of that ridge line and the name of the creek over ...
 
They're all extremely calm about it, but you can easy tell who is in charge
and who is just responding and who is asking for support by their voices
and the *tone* of their voices.
 
However, he problem with the *free* version of 5-0 Scanner now is that it
just pops up an ad in the *middle* of a transmission where the sound stops
and you have to kill the ad before the sound returns.
 
So the latest 5-0 scanner (on Android anyway) is totally useless as a free
version now.
 
I don't remember 5-0 scanner being *that* obnoxious in the past, when I
first tested it out (maybe a year ago?). So they certainly have gotten
worse (which is one reason to always save your old installers!).
 
It will be interesting to see what *others* use for their police/fire
scanning on their cellphones and tablets.
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Sep 27 12:34AM -0400

In article <nscsjp$8e2$1@news.mixmin.net>, Horace Algiers
> and you have to kill the ad before the sound returns.
 
> So the latest 5-0 scanner (on Android anyway) is totally useless as a free
> version now.
 
so much for android being better.
 
> I don't remember 5-0 scanner being *that* obnoxious in the past, when I
> first tested it out (maybe a year ago?). So they certainly have gotten
> worse (which is one reason to always save your old installers!).
 
or pay for no ads
 
> It will be interesting to see what *others* use for their police/fire
> scanning on their cellphones and tablets.
 
get a real scanner.
Horace Algiers <horace@horatio.net>: Sep 27 04:39AM

On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:05:39 -0700, Savageduck wrote:
 
> I said, I have the pay edition of 5-0 Radio Pro, so no ads.
> If you opt for free the price you pay is ads.
 
There are ads, and there are ADS!!!!!!!
 
I'm currently on Android (kids using the iPad) and I accidentally hit the
"clean" button a month or so ago in ES File Explorer on Android, which, who
knew? wipes out *all* the APKs ever installed *anywhere* on the entire
device, internal or external!
 
So I lost my old version of the 50scanner which worked just fine by having
unobtrusive ads which did not, as I recall, prevent you from *listening* to
the transmissions.
 
This *new* version of 50 scanner free *constantly* pops up OBTRUSIVE ads
that KILL the transmission, where it's to the point of being *useless*.
 
It wasn't originally that way.
 
So, I'm sure there are *other* scanners which haven't gotten their ads to
the point that the ads make the software useless.
 
Certainly 50 Scanner Lite, which *you* turned me on to in the first place,
maybe a year or so ago, was fine in the "olden days" (on both iOS and
Android).
 
But now, the free version (at least on Android) is utterly useless.
Not even worth installing.
 
Hence my question ... what free scanner do people use that is still useful?
(ads are ok - but ads that prevent the tool from working are NOT ok)
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>: Sep 26 09:53PM -0700


>> It will be interesting to see what *others* use for their police/fire
>> scanning on their cellphones and tablets.
 
> get a real scanner.
 
The $3.99 edition of 5-0 Radio Pro works just fine and has no ads. For
me with our local fires it has proven to be invaluable. It lets me
monitor these guys:
<https://db.tt/Zf2Jmaf9>
<https://db.tt/VcTsX4yQ>
<https://db.tt/toKTw9em>
<https://db.tt/kgPt0QIA>
<https://db.tt/sC8CkVFG>
Needless to say, at the height of the fire our air quality sucked.
<https://db.tt/9WibzROZ>
 
--
Regards,
 
Savageduck
"pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Sep 27 04:12AM -0700

Go Away!
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 27 04:31PM

On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 00:34:31 -0400, nospam wrote:
 
>> So the latest 5-0 scanner (on Android anyway) is totally useless as a free
>> version now.
 
> so much for android being better.
 
To add value to that comment ...
 
I didn't get a chance to check for the best iOS scanner but I did find a
great Android scanner (so far anyway) after about a half-dozen utterly
dismal scanners.
 
http://i.cubeupload.com/6Gg14Y.pn
 
Scanner Radio by GordonEdwards.net LLC
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.scannerradio&hl=en
 
The problem with the latest 5-0 scanner on Android was that the ads were
horrific. They popped up frequently, took up the entire screen, required
manual closing, and they killed the audio. Besides, the software couldn't
work in the background, and it wouldn't play with the screen off (which is
ridiculously badly written software). Basically the freeware 5-0 scanner is
unusable, and shouldn't even exist, IMHO (it's that bad).
 
Any softwere "I" recommend must be *usable*, at the very least.
So, for example, it *must* work while the screen is off.
It must work in the background while you do other tasks.
And, if it must have ads, they must be unobtrusive.
 
Luckily, my first tests with Scanner Radio seem to fit that requirement.
I haven't seen *any* ads yet (maybe they come later?), but so far it works
great in the background and with the screen off.
 
As for location permissions, it only asks for coarse location (aka network
cell-tower & AP MACID) and for fine location (add GPS) but it works with
both turned off. ( http://i.cubeupload.com/084wZe.png )
 
Apparently it relies on "volunteers" to feed the scans, but luckily, all
the frequencies I might need were well covered:
http://i.cubeupload.com/bXAxbE.png
N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Sep 27 09:52AM +0100

A couple of the active speaker outlet 1/4" socket pins could only resist
0.2N-m of torque appled to a 5mm flat blade screwdriver angled into a
convenient hole in each pin and levering at about 45 degree against the
rear pcb. But of course the pbf solderings looked fine.
But prior to taking that rear apart , hot-air and nylon rod engraver
shaker testing. An area of the preamp showed up to x3 increase in output
level playing low temp ,90 to 100 deg C, hot air over. A "bus strip" of
parallel conductors the length of the preamp pcb showed sensitivity to
severe vibration. So will now have to remove the preamp board and see
what is on the other side of that board. No schematic found.
N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Sep 27 11:24AM +0100

Text book PbF crap. Another symptom/cure to add to the lengthening PbF
repair manual. The long run of sensitity; one trace ran to a wire jumper
with bad pbf, presumably the engraver vibration ran along the 15 inch
run of copper, with 6 or so 22K off that line. Close look at all those
most basic of components and some more dodgey joints seen, so dealt with
all jumper wires and all XLR and preamp 1/4 in sockets although they
passed limited lever testing. The thermal x3 gain section had a PT2399
reverb, appropriately made by PTC, on the other side of the pcb in a
sprung pin DIL socket , replaced with turned pin socket.
jurb6006@gmail.com: Sep 26 03:54PM -0700

It's like this world is a stupidity contest, and the US, UK and Australia are vying for first place but it is a close race.
 
Years ago at a TV shop the guy had the attitude "a screw is a screw" and they start bitching at me about one bigscreen I fixed because the video in wasn't working. Well I had an assistant, one of the bosses actually who took apart and put back together the TVs after I fix the electronics and tune them up. He but a screw in that was five times as long as it should be and it cracked the input board in half. A screw is a screw. I told him "A screw is a screw ? you got a camcorder bring it in and I'll show you a screw is a screw. I literally intended to use a corded power drill to drive a 5" decking screw right through the whole fucking thing.
 
And that is not the worst of it though I don't know the idiot in question I heard about it on Usenet and there is nothing to prove on Usenet so most of what you read is true or at least believed to be true by the author.
 
Anyway this brainiac had like a $7,000 piece of equipment, I think it was something like a mixing amp or some kind of digital synthesizer something to do with audio and very expensive.
 
Well he wanted to mount it to something, some sort o rack or whatever and drilled holes in the bottom of it. Drilled right through a four layer PC board. There is no fixing that. Actually with super eyesight, good engineering skills and detailed information on the PC board layout and all the connections, and if none of the layers are shorted together now, someone could probably do it for a couple thousand, and it would take a month of intensive work. Actually anyone with that skill level and resources is going to charge more than that for a month's work.
 
And actually, there is a possibility that someone who works for Apple put that video up to increase sales. You KNOW they have to buy a new phone, they have a contract. Just like I highly suspect, and I mean shootably suspect that Norton's and McAfee's employees write half of the viruses out there. I am not saying the companies are even paying them to do it, but think about it. They write a virus they already know how to get rid of it and at work they look GOOD. Really good and can get a raise, so maybe they are paid for it by the company, knowingly or not.
 
Look at what Microsoft and Intel/AMD do together. Look at this post, do you see any flash videos and shit ? Nope. Usenet comes from a time before that, dialup, DOS, UNIX, OS/2. No mouse even. to communicate I do not need all that shit. I wish I could use DOS and get online for email and forums. That is all I do pretty much. OK I go on Craigslist and a few other things. But I can live without the videos, I have had enough entertainment in my life. I get this "for the best web experience, please update your browser". Go fuck yourself. What I got now is working fine. What, you want me to change the engine in my car every month because there is a better version ?
 
What's more, I got saved from a nasty virus because of not having updated software. I do not update, and my Java was old. It nags me on bootup. Well one day it started nagging me every minute all the sudden. Kept on Xing it out and it kept coming back. Instead of allowing the Java updat I ran a scan and it found something. Eliminated that and the nagging stopped.
 
They want you to update, update, update, supposedly for security. Bullshit. I want Windows 98SE again, I bet these new infections cannot run in it. Then I will get nags to update to Win 10 so they can run a virus. Fukum.
 
My XP box doesn't get online anymore after the last power outage. If I do not get it running again that "update" will be to Linux, no matter how unfamiliar I am with it.
 
Last but not least, how can people that fucking stooooooopid afford a $700 phone ? Do they work for the government or something ?
 
Their phone is literally smarter than they are. Or it used to be. What, they need to put a notice in the manual that nobody reads saying "Do not drill holes into you new phone" ?
 
How do these people live ? Is there a recording on their stereo that reminds them to breathe or what ? Do they know the difference between food and gasoline ? Do they need signs that say "Put the gasoline in your car and eat the food" or they get it mixed up ?
 
How about we tell them to drill a hole in their head and use a ¼" headphone plug for maximum high fidelity ?
 
Thanx for the laugh. You can't make shit like this up.
Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid>: Sep 27 11:21AM +0100

> It's like this world is a stupidity contest, and the US, UK and Australia are vying
 
Link bait. Move along.
 
Some very intelligent people making money out of man's stupid desire to
see the worst out of others to offset other feelings.
 
--
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