Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 19 updates in 3 topics

Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 27 10:35PM

Do you create an EMERGENCY folder on your mobile device (and what do you
put inside)?
 
I just created an "Emergency" folder on my phone.
http://i.cubeupload.com/QBxJ7i.png
 
What would you suggest goes inside your emergency folder?
 
a. 911
b. Police/fire scanner
c. What else?
 
A. 911
* I created a local and normal 911 contact
* I long pressed on those emergency 911 contacts
* I hit "Add shortcut to home" ( http://i.cubeupload.com/da4Qbt.png )
* This created a desktop shortcut to move each into the emergency folder
 
B. Scanner
* I opened Firefox to broadcastify/listen/ctid/226
* I pressed the start to bookmark the URL
* I opened the bookmarks editor & long pressed on the bookmark
* I selected the "save to desktop" option
* This created a desktop shortcut to move into the emergency folder
 
C. What else goes inside your mobile device emergency folder?
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>: Sep 28 09:39AM +1000

Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote
 
> Do you create an EMERGENCY folder on your mobile device
 
Nope, iOS has a much better system for that that
allows that stuff to be displayed by anyone.
 
> (and what do you put inside)?
 
I don't bother myself.
 
> I just created an "Emergency" folder on my phone.
> http://i.cubeupload.com/QBxJ7i.png
 
> What would you suggest goes inside your emergency folder?
 
I don't put anything in mine.
 
The local cops do have their own number and that is much more
useful than our equivalent of your 911 number. I just have it as
a normal phone number but with AAA in front of it so it shows up
right at the top of the contacts list.
 
> a. 911
> b. Police/fire scanner
 
Illegal here.
 
> c. What else?
 
We do have a live traffic app provided by the govt that does
allow you to see traffic congestion, but google maps does a
much better job of traffic. The app is good for roads closed
by flooding and fire etc.
 
> * I selected the "save to desktop" option
> * This created a desktop shortcut to move into the emergency folder
 
> C. What else goes inside your mobile device emergency folder?
 
Nothing. Our system does allow the authorities to send SMSs to
those in areas affected by large scale emergencies, but that is
entirely driven by them, it gets sent to cellphones that are logged
on to particular bases etc and requires no action by individuals.
Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl>: Sep 28 12:36PM +0200

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:39:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
> those in areas affected by large scale emergencies, but that is
> entirely driven by them, it gets sent to cellphones that are logged
> on to particular bases etc and requires no action by individuals.
 
Strictly speaking that's not SMS, that's CB (Cell Broadcast).
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_Broadcast
 
--
Kees Nuyt
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>: Sep 28 08:56PM +1000

"Kees Nuyt" <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> wrote in message
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>> entirely driven by them, it gets sent to cellphones that are logged
>> on to particular bases etc and requires no action by individuals.
 
> Strictly speaking that's not SMS, that's CB (Cell Broadcast).
 
Its actually SMS-CB as the below says.
 
"pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Sep 28 05:03AM -0700

Go away. Your blatherings are not appropriate to this group, and your subjects are both useless and trivial. That some rise to the bait enabling your illness is sad, but entirely human.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 28 04:00PM

On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 22:35:52 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:
 
> a. 911
> b. Police/fire scanner
> c. What else?
 
Rod Speed brought up a point about having Google Traffic on a quick
push-button link, so that you don't waste time in a hectic situation.
 
Looking it up, these two articles show how easy it is to add a traffic link
to the desktop:
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/6291823?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid
http://lifehacker.com/5426824/create-instant-navigation-shortcuts-from-androids-home-screen
 
Basically you simply long press on your desktop, and set it up from there.
 
Here are the simple steps, as I tried them on my phone just now:
1. http://i.cubeupload.com/PhtFyG.png (I long pressed on the desktop)
2. http://i.cubeupload.com/gkr0SO.png (I selected 'shortcuts')
3. http://i.cubeupload.com/JklWuv.png (I selected 'Maps')
4. http://i.cubeupload.com/yk0zXa.png (I entered my destination)
5. http://i.cubeupload.com/qUEtUb.png (Pressing 'save' created a link)
6. http://i.cubeupload.com/STiVuF.png (That link opens up Google Maps)
 
Of course, it won't work for me (since I don't have any google accounts),
but it should work for most of you (who do have google accounts).
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 28 04:00PM

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:39:16 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
 
>> Do you create an EMERGENCY folder on your mobile device
 
> Nope, iOS has a much better system for that that
> allows that stuff to be displayed by anyone.
 
That's interesting that iOS has a "system" which includes fire/police
scanning.
 
How does that iOS method you allude to figure out which fire/police scanner
to broadcast in the USA and countries that allow it?
 
>> (and what do you put inside)?
 
> I don┤ bother myself.
 
Emergencies happen, so, it's not a bad idea to be prepared for them, ahead
of time.
 
For example, if you see a fire threatening your only access out, you might
not want to waste time *looking* for a frequency to tell you which
evacuation route they're using.
 
Sure, if you're lucky, the police will come by ahead of time broadcasting
it, and signs will be up, and everyone you ask will be informed ... but
that's not always how well organized it's gonna be.
 
 
> useful than our equivalent of your 911 number. I just have it as
> a normal phone number but with AAA in front of it so it shows up
> right at the top of the contacts list.
 
That's useful to put AAA on top, as it will save precious seconds when
needed. Of course, 911 also works, when needed (but in my case, that
dispatcher is 75 miles away).
 
It will be interesting to see how other people prepare their mobile devices
for emergencies.
 
>> a. 911
>> b. Police/fire scanner
 
> Illegal here.
 
Wow. You can't even *listen* to radio broadcasts?
And I thought *we* were oppressed!
 
> allow you to see traffic congestion, but google maps does a
> much better job of traffic. The app is good for roads closed
> by flooding and fire etc.
 
Actually, that's a great point in that we should add a link to Google Maps
for traffic congestion around our home.
 
It should be as simple as the Google Map link (which is huge) saved as a
desktop shortcut. I'll add it to mine. Thanks for that idea.
 
How to add a Google Maps shortcut to your desktop
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/6291823?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid
 
How to create instant map shortcuts on your home screen
http://lifehacker.com/5426824/create-instant-navigation-shortcuts-from-androids-home-screen

> those in areas affected by large scale emergencies, but that is
> entirely driven by them, it gets sent to cellphones that are logged
> on to particular bases etc and requires no action by individuals.
 
As you noted, the authorities used a reverse-911 to notify every cellphone
within the towers receiving area, to let people know about the evacuation.
 
But you can't always rely on the authorities, and, if you have cats, dogs,
chickens, etc., you may need to instantly call for help - which should all
be on a quick-dial mechanism in the emergency folder, IMHO, in order of 1 2
3, left to right, top to bottom.
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 28 04:05PM

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 16:00:01 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:
 
> 4. http://i.cubeupload.com/yk0zXa.png (I entered my destination)
> 5. http://i.cubeupload.com/qUEtUb.png (Pressing 'save' created a link)
> 6. http://i.cubeupload.com/STiVuF.png (That link opens up Google Maps)
 
Correction...
 
Here are the simple steps, as I tried them on my phone just now:
1. http://i.cubeupload.com/PhtFyG.png (I long pressed on the desktop)
2. http://i.cubeupload.com/gkr0SO.png (I selected 'shortcuts')
3. http://i.cubeupload.com/JklWuv.png (I selected *'Directions'*)
4. http://i.cubeupload.com/yk0zXa.png (I entered my destination)
5. http://i.cubeupload.com/qUEtUb.png (Pressing 'save' created a link)
6. http://i.cubeupload.com/STiVuF.png (It will do whatever you've set up)
 
If someone knows how to do the same thing on iOS, please advise so that the
iOS users also benefit by having a traffic link in their emergency folder,
if desired.
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 27 04:55PM

On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:53:43 -0700, Savageduck wrote:
 
> <https://db.tt/toKTw9em>
> <https://db.tt/kgPt0QIA>
> <https://db.tt/sC8CkVFG>
 
Interesting set of copters and cargo jets (and trucks).
 
Here's the view, last night, from near Jeff's Liebermann's house in SC:
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-fire-0927-101.jpg
 
Here is a CalFire S2 tanker flying over the scene & dumping retardant:
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/mch-l-lomafire-0927-112.jpg?w=810
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/mch-l-lomafire-0927-121.jpg
 
Here is the night status of that antenna farm shown yesterday in daylight:
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-021.jpg
 
Here's the mushroom cloud around 3pm from the Silicon Vally looking west:
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtUAvagUEAA7Arx.jpg
 
Here is a chopper they're using on that fire last afternoon:
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-sjfire-0927-008.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/mch-l-lomafire-0927-141.jpg
 
Here are the trucks they're using in the Loma Fire yesterday afternoon:
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-sjfire-0927-001.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-sjfire-0927-002.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/mch-l-lomafire-0927-22.jpg
 
Here is a pic of a house burning in the afternoon & evening:
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/mch-l-lomafire-0927-17.jpg
www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-022.jpg
 
Here is a screenshot of the evacaultion area (I'm on a fringe):
http://i1.wp.com/mountainbulletin.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2016-09-26_Loma-Fire_Map2-1.jpg
 
> Needless to say, at the height of the fire our air quality sucked.
> <https://db.tt/9WibzROZ>
 
That looks pretty smoky.
 
I smell like a campfire right now, and I haven't yet been evacuated (and
probably won't be evacuated if the fire continues the way it's been).
 
Back on topic, any decent free scanner *must*:
a. Have no ads or have unobtrusive ads
b. Work in the background
c. Work with the screen off
d. Not ask for permissions it doesn't need (or run with them turned off)
e. Have your local fire and police stations
http://i.cubeupload.com/bXAxbE.png
 
On Android, I found a good one (and a whole slew of horrid ones!), so I
need to find a good one on iOS next (haven't tried yet).
http://i.cubeupload.com/6Gg14Y.png
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 27 05:34PM

On Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:21:28 -0700, Savageduck wrote:
 
> There is also this:
> <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/police-scanner+-free/id498408628?mt=8>
 
Thanks for taking a risk on suggesting the iOS freeware fire/police
scanner.
 
Police Scanner+ Free By Rego Apps
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/police-scanner+-free/id498408628
 
This app has features that the Android app I found doesn't, e.g.,
- records the audio (and plays it back)
- timer controlled to turn on or shut off on a daily schedule
 
As always, I needed to select the correct folder to put the app in, so I
put it in the "audio" folder, along with "5-0 Radio" by Smartest Apps LLC,
Version 39.0:
 
It's an OK app, and I'd call it usable for a few reasons...
 
In my tests:
- It picked up CalFire SCU
- It works in the background
- It works with the screen off
- It recorded easily to a named file (e.g., "loma fire 1").
- It has a timer to start/stop playing
- There are two kinds of ads, but they don't kill the app.
 
The two kinds of ads are:
- There is a bar-like ad at the bottom of the scanner app
- There is a full-screen ad that pops up and takes over the screen
- The full-screen ad has to be killed - but - unlike 5-0 Scanner, at least
the full-screen ad didn't kill the operation of the scanner. And the
full-screen ad seems to be on some sort of long (minutes) timer because it
went away without me messing with it. One full-screen ad came with audio,
which overlay the scanner audio - so that sucked - so I'd say this app is
"just ok" because there are apps that are free that don't have any ads that
take up the whole screen like this one did.
 
The "done" button on the recording and favoriting of stations was not
intuitive, but after figuring it out, that, and the lack of a "Back"
button, were only minor learning hurdles to overcome. (At least Android
*always* has a back button.)
 
I'll test it out further, but first inspection is that it is "ok".
a. It's not as usable as the Android first choice
b. But it has more features than did the Android first selection
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Sep 27 10:36AM -0700

On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 03:11:07 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algiers
 
>There's a fire, called the "Loma Fire" nearby, near the site of the big
>earthquake of 89 (also probably in sight of where Jeff lives):
 
I can see the ridge line from my house, but my view of Loma Prieta is
blocked by a wall of redwood trees. According to the local ARES net,
the fire has already passed the radio site on Loma Prieta with the
only damage being the power and comm lines going down the hill on the
Santa Clara side. Lots of transmitters are now down, including the
local NOAA weather transmitter. Cruzio's wireless systems on Loma is
currently on battery power. Most others are on generator. No clue
how long they will last. Access is currently impossible, so I expect
problems when the batteries are discharged.
 
>Which free police/fire scanner do you recommend that does not have
>intrusive ads?
 
Broadcastify:
<http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/226>
 
For Android, I use Scanner Radio Pro:
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.scannerradio_pro&hl=en>
No ads and $3 to register. Runs nicely in the background without
slowing my tablet to a crawl. I tested various Android scanner apps
about 3 years ago and settled on this one. If I know the streaming
source URL, I sometimes use VLC to listen.
 
For OTA (over the air) listening, I have a pile of assorted scanners,
mostly older Radio Shack computah programmable types. The banks are
preloaded by the type of incident (fire, traffic, power failure,
flood, water, etc). I also use my various ham radios for monitoring
activity.
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/drivel/slides/too-many-radios.html>
The hard part is finding which frequencies are worth monitoring, and
keeping all the junk radio programming up to date.
 
For digital, I can decode some of the traffic with an SDR-RTL receiver
and a computah using DSD (digital speech decoder):
<http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/DSDPlus> (old)
<http://www.rtl-sdr.com/tag/dsd/>
<http://www.dsdplus.com>
Maybe some day I'll buy a scanner that does digital.
 
 
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>: Sep 27 10:41AM -0700

> http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-fire-0927-101.jpg
 
> Here is a CalFire S2 tanker flying over the scene & dumping retardant:
> http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/mch-l-lomafire-0927-112.jpg?w=810
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/mch-l-lomafire-0927-121.jpg
 
Here
 
> Here is a chopper they're using on that fire last afternoon:
> http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-sjfire-0927-008.jpg
> http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/mch-l-lomafire-0927-141.jpg
 
Here
> http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-sjfire-0927-001.jpg
> http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-sjfire-0927-002.jpg
> http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/mch-l-lomafire-0927-22.jpg
 
Here
 
> is a pic of a house burning in the afternoon & evening:
> http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/mch-l-lomafire-0927-17.jpg
www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sjm-lomafire-0927-022.jpg
 
Here
 
> is a screenshot of the evacaultion area (I'm on a fringe):
> http://i1.wp.com/mountainbulletin.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/2016-09-26_Loma-Fire_Map2-1.jpg
 
 
This
 
is the area our fire effected:
<https://db.tt/dYLtMWwL>
<https://db.tt/OeguZPHN>
 
This has been a rough fire season, along with our large fire we have
had five others which have disrupted life out here.
<https://db.tt/ZTyXttpZ>
 
> d. Not ask for permissions it doesn't need (or run with them turned off)
> e. Have your local fire and police stations
> http://i.cubeupload.com/bXAxbE.png
 
As I have said, I get what I need for my location and more, but I did
pay $3.99.
 
> On Android, I found a good one (and a whole slew of horrid ones!), so I
> need to find a good one on iOS next (haven't tried yet).
> http://i.cubeupload.com/6Gg14Y.png
 
Yup! That is also available for iOS, but I haven't tried it.
<https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/scanner-radio-deluxe/id498405045?mt=8>
 
 
--
Regards,
 
Savageduck
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 27 06:21PM

On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:36:57 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
 
> I can see the ridge line from my house, but my view of Loma Prieta is
> blocked by a wall of redwood trees.
 
The fire is (slowly) heading your way, but you have a few miles in between,
so, the most you'll get is a good view of it and some smoky smells.
 
> the fire has already passed the radio site on Loma Prieta with the
> only damage being the power and comm lines going down the hill on the
> Santa Clara side.
 
If those high-tension wires that cross the mountain a bit further north of
the fire do go down, that's a *lot* of electric power because those lines
are *double* a normal set of lines.
 
> Lots of transmitters are now down, including the
> local NOAA weather transmitter. Cruzio's wireless systems on Loma is
> currently on battery power.
 
Yup. Our local WISPs are going down, one by one, based on reports I'm
seeing in the email reflectors.
 
> Most others are on generator. No clue
> how long they will last. Access is currently impossible, so I expect
> problems when the batteries are discharged.
 
I had to switch towers that I point at from my rooftop radio because my
WISP AP went down already in the fire due to power loss.
 
Luckily I have a lot of towers to choose from, but this new one is 12 miles
(round trip ACK) from my home, so the CCQs are far worse and the speeds
dropped in half.
 
>>intrusive ads?
 
> Broadcastify:
> <http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/226>
 
Someone in the Android newsgroup also suggested broadcastify but they
didn't supply the perfect URL! :)
http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/226
 
So to test it out, I created a pin on my desktop to that link above:
http://i.cubeupload.com/cmmQDD.png
 
a. Open up the URL in Firefox on Android
b. Bookmark the URL
c. Open the Bookmarks editor
d. Long press on the bookmark
d. Select the save to desktop option
( http://i.cubeupload.com/l8exni.png )
 
Once I pinned that link to the desktop, I selected that "Santa Cruz County
Fire and CalFire" desktop link to get to your suggested web page.
( http://i.cubeupload.com/2t45vY.png )
 
Once at that suggested web page, I hit the "play" button on:
"Santa Cruz County Fire and CalFire"
 
That started the scanner working.
 
The first test was whether it works with the screen off, and it worked
fine.
 
The second test was whether it worked in the background, and that worked
also.
 
So simply pinning the URL to the desktop *does* seem to be a nice easy free
way to scan police/fire frequencies (without obnoxious ads)!
 
Thanks for that suggestion (and from someone else whom it came from also).
 
What I love about people like you and me, Jeff, is we supply details that
are usable enough so that others can follow in our footsteps.
 
Psst: They're "diving off of Nim Nob down into Uvas Creek" with the chopper
as we speak (they say "that's the only option ... they'll line a good line
of retardent on summit road - turn the corner on summit - go down nims nob
and then put as much as you can - any update or increase in size? - I
called it 1000 last night - I call it 1500 now - we're working copters over
on the east morgan hill side to try to keep it out of the houses - we're
gonna flip flop it and put retardent on it and try to pitch it off"
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 27 06:24PM

On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:41:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote:
 
> Yup! That is also available for iOS, but I haven't tried it.
> <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/scanner-radio-deluxe/id498405045?mt=8>
 
I'll try that one next.
Thanks for pitching in so that all others benefit from our conversations!
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/scanner-radio-deluxe/id498405045
Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 27 07:02PM

On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 03:11:07 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algiers wrote:
 
> Which free police/fire scanner do you recommend that does not have
> intrusive ads?
 
SUMMARY for IOS:
0. Desktop shortcut to http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/226
1. 5-0 Radio Police Scanner By Smartest Apps LLC
2. Scanner Radio Deluxe By GordonEdwards.net LLC
3. Police Scanner+ Free By Rego Apps
 
SUMMARY FOR ANDROID:
0. Desktop shortcut to http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/226
1. Scanner Radio Deluxe By GordonEdwards.net LLC
 
DETAILS:
 
Here's a preliminary answer to the question of which free police/fire
scanner works best on iOS and Android.
 
In the past, the main recommendation was "5-0 Scanner" but a recent
(accidental) test of (a copycat) version on Android showed the copycat to
be unusable due to ads, lack of background, lack of working with the screen
off, etc.
 
However, a test of version 39.0 of 5-0 Scanner on iOS worked fine.
- It played the frequency I wanted (CalFire SCU)
- It worked in the background
- It worked with the screen blanked
- And the ads were acceptably unobtrusive
 
So, I'll still *list* 5-0 Scanner, even though it doesn't seem to be on
Android, although "similarly" named (but horrid) apps exist with "5-0
Scanner" in their name!
 
*iOS*
5-0 Radio Police Scanner By Smartest Apps LLC
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/5-0-radio-police-scanner/id356336433
 
*Android:*
Do not use any Android app named "5-0 Scanner" as they are horrid copycats.
- Police Scanner 5-0 by Logicord LLC (horrid)
 
My favorite "app" for KISS operation, is "Scanner Radio", which uses
"volunteers" to host the stations and whose ads are not obtrusive:
*iOS:*
Scanner Radio Deluxe By GordonEdwards.net LLC
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/scanner-radio-deluxe/id498405045
 
*Android:*
Scanner Radio by GordonEdwards.net LLC
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.scannerradio
 
Honorable mention goes to "Police Scanner +" which meets the original 4
requirements plus adds two features:
- It records the output
- It can start and stop on a timer
 
*iOS:*
Police Scanner+ Free By Rego Apps
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/police-scanner+-free/id498408628
 
Lastly, simply putting a *desktop shortcut* of the broadcastify URL is
probably the *simplest* solution, which works on *all platforms*:
http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/226
 
So to test it out, I created a pin on my desktop to that link above:
http://i.cubeupload.com/cmmQDD.png
 
On Android, you can pin a link to the desktop using this procedure:
a. Open up the URL in Firefox
b. Bookmark the URL
c. Open the Bookmarks editor
d. Long press on the bookmark
d. Select the save to desktop option
( http://i.cubeupload.com/l8exni.png )
 
Once I pinned that link to the desktop, I selected that "Santa Cruz County
Fire and CalFire" desktop link.
( http://i.cubeupload.com/2t45vY.png )
 
Once at that suggested web page, I hit the "play" button on:
"Santa Cruz County Fire and CalFire"
 
That started the scanner working.
 
In summary, the iOS 5-0 Scanner app is fine. I was fooled by the fact that,
on Android, someone "copied" the name and made a horrid app that is
useless, but there were great apps on both Android and iOS (as listed
above).
 
Thanks! I hope everyone benefits from the value added by all.
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Sep 27 09:20PM -0700

On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 19:02:38 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier
>requirements plus adds two features:
>- It records the output
>- It can start and stop on a timer
 
Note that Broadcastify archives recordings. You can download these
recordings for later playback. That became very useful when trying to
piece together what happened when two local fire departments couldn't
find a fire location[1]. However, you do need to pay for a premium
account:
<http://www.radioreference.com/apps/subscription/>
I don't need to download scanner sessions very often, so I just pay
when I need a download.
 
 
 
[1] To be uncharacteristically fair, just about everyone involved
screwed up in some manner. Summed together, the result was a mess.
The RP (reporting part) was in such a state of panic they she was
screaming into her iphone 4 at the 911 dispatcher, rendering her
speech unintelligible. She wouldn't stop to listen to the dispatchers
instructions. The dispatcher didn't tell her to not yell into the
mic, but told her to slow down, which did nothing useful. Meanwhile,
the street was on the border between two jurisdictions, both of whom
arrived in force, creating a huge traffic jam. There was also a
street/road with the same name nearby. The dispatcher guessed which
street, and guessed wrong. Plenty of other scrweups, all nicely
recorded by Broadcastify.
 
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Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 28 04:00PM

On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 21:20:04 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
 
> <http://www.radioreference.com/apps/subscription/>
> I don't need to download scanner sessions very often, so I just pay
> when I need a download.
 
Thanks Jeff for that hint that Broadcastify also *records* transmissions.
 
I would love to re-listen to that communication yesterday where clearly a
leader chastised a crew for allowing other crews to go back to San Jose
without telling the leader.
 
To answer the original question, it seems that Broadcastify is really the
way to go.
a. It is usable as a simple browser desktop link
b. The free apps seem to use it anyway
c. It archives for you (which I didn't know)
 
Given that a scanner for emergencies needs to be KISS, I love the link in
my emergency folder to your suggested site.
 
BTW, today I called the Cal Fire folks and they told me it's about 2K
acres, with about 100 trucks and 50 teams, a score each of choppers,
dozers, and tankers, and about 1,000 fire personnel.
 
Is that big or small in terms for this area?
(I missed the huge pre-earthquake fires so I've only seen little ones in
the interim.)

> Plenty of other scrweups, all nicely
> recorded by Broadcastify.
 
Nice to know there are recordings on Broadcastify.
 
I think broadcastify directly, or an app that uses broadcastify, is the
canonical way to go for a KISS emergency fire scanner in the desktop
emergency folder.
 
I haven't tried to make a link on iOS from the browser, but that should be
easily doable for the iOS users.
jurb6006@gmail.com: Sep 27 10:32AM -0700

On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 5:21:11 AM UTC-5, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
> see the worst out of others to offset other feelings.
 
> --
> Adrian C
 
Might as well watch, and get some popcorn.
 
Bunch of years ago we fixed a lawnmower for a friend, but it was acting funny. It would not govern right, it was idle hunting. Decided to try to cut some grass and subsequently found that the blade was missing. the guy's idiot son in law had given the blade to someone to sharpen, ON A MOWER THAT DID NOT RUN.
 
Same guy, I do remodel on the Father in law's house including a new furnace and sub electrical panel, leaving the old panel in place, well, just because. Son in law's asshole "contractor came in and said horizontal installation of a furnace is against code. Bunch of shit. The way I had it they could change the filter without even going downstairs which was good because the guy was getting old.
 
And then the asshole eliminates the main old panel and puts the mains coming in straight to the MLO panel I had installed which is strictly illegal. You need to be able to shut down the house in five moves, which my system facilitated.
 
With the stupidity on this planet I seriously am surprised that some idiot hasn't tried to drill a hole in his head for a "headphone" jack, literally.
 
It's disgusting really, I seem to have had more common sense at ten years old than some of these fully grown homosapiens.
 
Human fucking garbage. I am glad they have to pay $700 for a new phone or else get a cheap $20 one and pay for all that data n shit and not be able to use it.
 
Late fried of mine Jim Watt. I was over his house doing our usual bullshitting and procrastinating and up comes a story on the TV about 75 yer old Man marrying a 25 year old Woman and her taking him for most of the money he had. At first I said something like she should be shot.
 
But then he says, fuck him. If he is that stupid at that age how stupid was he when he was younger ? Did he really think this 25 year old fell in love with him ? He buys her cars, jewelry and clothes, probably never gets a piece of ass and now he is crying about it ? Fuck him. Stupid people exist because they were never taught. Now he got taught.
 
I had to give this a thought for a minute but after that I realized he was right.
 
All I at this point is that the world needs to start issuig alot more Darwin awards or the average IQ is going to go into negative numbers.
 
To drill into a smartphone like that ? How many levels of stupidity does that take ? They think the jack is under there but the manufacturer put it in but did not put a hole in the case so you could use it ? Why in the hell would they do such a thing ? Or did they think they were magically going to hit some places on the PC board and have their audio connected ? Did they think the lack of a hole made it waterproof or something ? How the fuck does it charge then ?
 
You know I am firmly against gun control, but things like this really do make me think twice. Like the guy who shot his olady, supposedly while cleaning his gun. Have a gun ? Ever clean it ? Do you clean it while it is loaded ? And another one, shot himself three times while cleaning his gun. Wouldn't you think that after the second time he would figure out that he should take the "bullets" out. (that is in paranth... whatever because they are rounds, bullets are the part that comes out of the barrel when you pull the trigger) What are these people doing cleaning guns, spraying Windex on them and working a scrub brush on the trigger ?
 
I advocate gun lesson in schools, all schools, required for graduation. By second grade you know to not touch one if you find it, but if there are other kids around you keep it pointed straight down and take it to an adult. Later, fifth or sixth grade, how to safely unload all the different types and once you pass that you can go on to marksmanship.
 
But we live in a society that first of all pays you more to play than work. And also with people so fucking stupid they should not be allowed to own a drill, and I don't just mean a power drill. They need to be in an environment like jail, with a plastic spork, no knives. Not even a screwdriver. And electricity ? Forget about it.
ohger1s@gmail.com: Sep 27 11:00AM -0700

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 10:11:55 AM UTC-4, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
 
> Clueless iPhone 7 owners tricked into DRILLING hole in their phones to
> 'get headphone jack'...
> https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1845589/clueless-iphone-7-owners-tricked-into-drilling-hole-in-their-phones-to-get-a-headphone-jack/
 
 
I drilled mine but only one side of my headphone jack is working, and I'm sure the headphones are OK because it works on my iPod. Should I drill a bit deeper?
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