Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 14 updates in 5 topics

Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 28 04:00PM

On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 22:35:52 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:
 
> a. 911
> b. Police/fire scanner
> c. What else?
 
Rod Speed brought up a point about having Google Traffic on a quick
push-button link, so that you don't waste time in a hectic situation.
 
Looking it up, these two articles show how easy it is to add a traffic link
to the desktop:
https://support.google.com/maps/answer/6291823?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid
http://lifehacker.com/5426824/create-instant-navigation-shortcuts-from-androids-home-screen
 
Basically you simply long press on your desktop, and set it up from there.
 
Here are the simple steps, as I tried them on my phone just now:
1. http://i.cubeupload.com/PhtFyG.png (I long pressed on the desktop)
2. http://i.cubeupload.com/gkr0SO.png (I selected 'shortcuts')
3. http://i.cubeupload.com/JklWuv.png (I selected 'Maps')
4. http://i.cubeupload.com/yk0zXa.png (I entered my destination)
5. http://i.cubeupload.com/qUEtUb.png (Pressing 'save' created a link)
6. http://i.cubeupload.com/STiVuF.png (That link opens up Google Maps)
 
Of course, it won't work for me (since I don't have any google accounts),
but it should work for most of you (who do have google accounts).
tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>: Sep 28 03:11PM -0400

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:56:01 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
 
>> Strictly speaking that's not SMS, that's CB (Cell Broadcast).
 
> Its actually SMS-CB as the below says.
 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_Broadcast
 
Please read more attentively, and without snipping the *important* parts:
 
: Cell Broadcast/Cell Information (CB) messaging ...
: ... is also known as Short Message Service-Cell Broadcast (SMS-CB).
 
So: not "is actually" but "is also known as". YvW. Cheers, -- tlvp
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"Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1>: Sep 28 08:41PM +0100


> : Cell Broadcast/Cell Information (CB) messaging ...
> : ... is also known as Short Message Service-Cell Broadcast (SMS-CB).
 
> So: not "is actually" but "is also known as". YvW. Cheers, -- tlvp
 
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>: Sep 29 06:00AM +1000

Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> wrote
>> allows that stuff to be displayed by anyone.
 
> That's interesting that iOS has a "system"
> which includes fire/police scanning.
 
I didn't mean that. I was talking about a quite different emergency,
when someone finds you unconscious or incapable and needs to
contact someone you have specified to tell them that you have
been found unconscious or incapable to tell them you have been
taken to a particular hospital etc. I meant to go back and restate
that when I had finished the rest of the post but managed to
forget to do that until after I had sent the post.
 
> How does that iOS method you allude to figure
> out which fire/police scanner to broadcast in
> the USA and countries that allow it?
 
It doesn't.
 
>>> (and what do you put inside)?
 
>> I don¢t bother myself.
 
> Emergencies happen,
 
Yes, but I don't need any particular way to deal with
those except to put the local number for the cops
that works a lot better than our equivalent of the
911 number at the top of the contacts where I
need to use it to call the cops if I need to do that.
 
> so, it's not a bad idea to be prepared for them, ahead of time.
 
And I do, but not in the way you do that.
 
> For example, if you see a fire threatening your only access out,
> you might not want to waste time *looking* for a frequency
> to tell you which evacuation route they're using.
 
We don't do it that way, like I said, our system uses
SMS-CB to tell you that and that requires no specific
action on your part at all except to have your phone
turned on so you can receive that.
 
And in our case the Live Traffic app does a much better
job of showing you which evacuation routes are viable
with floods, bushfires etc than any frequency does.
 
> Sure, if you're lucky, the police will come by ahead of time broadcasting
> it, and signs will be up, and everyone you ask will be informed ... but
> that's not always how well organized it's gonna be.
 
That's why we use SMS-CB. Not perfect, because there are
still a few people who don't have cellphones and there will
always be some in an emergency whose phones have got
flat batterys, but a lot better than telling people by knocking
on their doors. At least those who do have working phones
can tell others who don't what the SMS-CB has told them.
 
>> of it so it shows up right at the top of the contacts list.
 
> That's useful to put AAA on top, as it will
> save precious seconds when needed.
 
Yes, that's why I do it like that.
 
> Of course, 911 also works, when needed (but
> in my case, that dispatcher is 75 miles away).
 
The problem with mine is that they don't connect
you directly to the local police station, they connect
you to the cops 100 miles away for some reason.
 
> It will be interesting to see how other people
> prepare their mobile devices for emergencies.
 
Surprisingly few have commented yet.
 
>>> b. Police/fire scanner
 
>> Illegal here.
 
> Wow. You can't even *listen* to radio broadcasts?
 
You can't listen to the communication between those crews.
Those arent broadcasts.
 
> And I thought *we* were oppressed!
 
Nothing to do with oppression.
 
You arent allowed to listen in to other people's cellphone
conversations either, although that isnt even possible now
the entire system is GSM/LTE. It was possible with the original
AMPS system.
 
>> on to particular bases etc and requires no action by individuals.
 
> As you noted, the authorities used a reverse-911 to notify every cellphone
> within the towers receiving area, to let people know about the evacuation.
 
Its not a reverse 911, its SMS-CB, a variant of SMS.
 
> But you can't always rely on the authorities, and, if you have cats,
> dogs, chickens, etc., you may need to instantly call for help -
 
You wont get it here with those except when you call your neighbours etc.
 
> which should all be on a quick-dial mechanism in the emergency
> folder, IMHO, in order of 1 2 3, left to right, top to bottom.
 
The iOS contacts system does allow an emergency category in the contacts.
 
It also allows you to list those you want to be called if say you are found
unconscious or incapable and that is visible on the lock screen of your
idevice so anyone can get those details from there as long as your
phone is still working.
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>: Sep 29 06:20AM +1000

tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote
 
>> Its actually SMS-CB as the below says.

>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_Broadcast

> Please read more attentively,
 
Go and fuck yourself.
 
> and without snipping the *important* parts:
 
I snipped nothing.

> : Cell Broadcast/Cell Information (CB) messaging ...
> : ... is also known as Short Message Service-Cell Broadcast (SMS-CB).

> So: not "is actually" but "is also known as".
 
You are wrong, as always.
"Ron D." <Ron.Dozier@gmail.com>: Sep 28 04:47PM -0700

Well, for "my emergency use" I put a contact name that's basically something like "0_If Found Call". I'm hoping if a nice person found my phone, they might look at the contacts. You could always call one like Home or mom or something. I just made it easier.
 
I have an app, that if I TXT a message with a certain subject to my phone, the ring volume raises to max. This is so i can do the locate thing by calling it.
My phone has a few hiding places it likes. Side of the car seat, bed, side of a chair. I try to only put the phone in specific spaces like sid eof the bed (charging), Living room couch (charging), and on top of a TV.
 
So, the most important thing is for me to be able to find my phone.
 
I do need to add the police non-emergency number like a tree down in a road in my contacts list and I do need to back-up my SIM card. I have a specific device that can do that.
 
I have a very early Android device that's practically useless.
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>: Sep 29 07:31AM


>> It will be interesting to see how other people
>> prepare their mobile devices for emergencies.
 
> Surprisingly few have commented yet.
 
No, not surprising at all.
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>: Sep 29 10:48PM +1000

Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote
>>> prepare their mobile devices for emergencies.

>> Surprisingly few have commented yet.

> No, not surprising at all.
 
Have fun explaining why they have done with his other stuff.
N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Sep 29 11:28AM +0100

I was just wondering it portland cement mortar would be as reliable as
PbF solder "joints"
captainvideo462009@gmail.com: Sep 28 05:26PM -0700

I just bought one from a guy on Ebay and it was apparently old stock because it's not any better than the original one. I know that this is an old printer but is it possible to find replacements for these that are "fresh" anymore? Thanks, Lenny
Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146@earthlink.net>: Sep 28 11:21PM -0400

In article <1f998702-a4d5-48ea-a0f7-87a894a0b7b8@googlegroups.com>,
captainvideo462009@gmail.com says...
 
> I just bought one from a guy on Ebay and it was apparently old stock because it's not any better than the original one. I know that this is an old printer but is it possible to find replacements for these that are "fresh" anymore? Thanks, Lenny
 
You might try giving the ribbon a light spray of WD40 or something
similar. I do mean very light. The old ink will often dry out,but some
fresh oil will bring it back to life.
 
YOu may also try searching for reinkers. There used to be lots of them
and ink around years ago before the ink jet printers.
captainvideo462009@gmail.com: Sep 28 05:45PM -0700

On Sunday, September 25, 2016 at 10:11:55 AM UTC-4, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
 
> Clueless iPhone 7 owners tricked into DRILLING hole in their phones to
> 'get headphone jack'...
> https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1845589/clueless-iphone-7-owners-tricked-into-drilling-hole-in-their-phones-to-get-a-headphone-jack/
 
Don't drill it deeper. You need to drill a BIGGER hole John. Lenny
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Sep 28 11:03AM -0700

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 16:00:02 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier
 
>I would love to re-listen to that communication yesterday where clearly a
>leader chastised a crew for allowing other crews to go back to San Jose
>without telling the leader.
 
Broadcastify MIGHT work, but there's a problem. Many of the scanners
reflected by Broadcastify over multiple channels. There's no
guarantee that any particular scanner will be listening to a frequency
of interest. That causes big problems when there are two or more
channels with active incidents. At the time when I made the recording
that I mentioned, there was a local only scanner for SLV (San Lorenzo
Valley) area fire. It's now gone.
 
You might try doing your own recording:
<http://wiki.radioreference.com/index.php/Recording_Software_and_Tips>
The difference between these recorders, and the common music
recorders, is that scanner recorders stop recording when there's no
audio. All the dead air gaps disappear. Most also have a real time
marker system, so you know when something was heard.
 
For fire, you might want to also try:
<http://www.firescan.net>
which has recordings of fire dispatches. The recordings are for
dispatches and callouts, and are not intended for archiving the entire
incident. Using the RSS feeds are the best way to follow the
dispatches.
 
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Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net>: Sep 28 09:05PM

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:03:46 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
 
> channels with active incidents. At the time when I made the recording
> that I mentioned, there was a local only scanner for SLV (San Lorenzo
> Valley) area fire. It's now gone.
 
Good point in that any one "feed" on broadcastify can be made up of
multiple channels, not all of which are recorded (nor are both sides
necessarily recorded).

> recorders, is that scanner recorders stop recording when there's no
> audio. All the dead air gaps disappear. Most also have a real time
> marker system, so you know when something was heard.
 
I've always wanted a recorder on the mobile device which skips over dead
space.
 
As you can tell from my desktop screenshots, I use "Easy Voice Recorder"
freeware, but it doesn't skip over dead space AFAIK.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-voice-recording-app-android/
 
Looking for a free sound recorder on the mobile device which starts and
stops when the sound level is high enough, I find this:
 
Auto Recorder by Giuseppe Romano
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aiuspaktyn.spyrecorder
 
The settings have a few options, such as the file type and size, and the
pro version adds other options such as whether to start automatically or
wait for your command, or even whether to start from a text message.
 
It doesn't have a setting to change its default storage location, but I can
easily enough use a freeware file redirector to automagically move it from
the local storage to the flash drive.

If folks know of a better freeware audio recorder that will stop and start
based on volume for either iOS or Android, that would be useful.

> dispatches and callouts, and are not intended for archiving the entire
> incident. Using the RSS feeds are the best way to follow the
> dispatches.
 
Interesting, they seem to have 30-second and 90-second and 30-minute
snippets recorded at various qualities. Seems like they could do with a
single recording, at a single quality, but I guess that they want to do it
right.
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