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| Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com>: Oct 11 07:03PM >> Worst case, I can measure and guestimate once getting an worthwhile belt >> order in place (might as well do the tape deck and VCRs at the same time). > It's probably a CDV-1600, not CVD. Yeah, cdv, or whatever. I was sort of hoping the n cook guy would have the data memorized on this all. > http://www.target.com/p/rubber-bands-assort-sizes-7-4oz-up/-/A-16603894 > Go find that, pick out a couple that comes close, make sure the rest of > the unit works, then waste time trying to find real belts. The laser assembly is running with a doubled over skinny rubber band. That's how I determined the unit works otherwise and deserves a proper repair. The tray can be manually operated and the mechanism that ramps the clamp assembly up and down is gear driven and works too. > Even with OEM part numbers in hand, you still aren't going to find them. > I never remember seeing belt sizes listed in the service manuals for any > player. They'd have a number which at least back in the day could be cross referenced to Russel or somebody else. Some chatter came up here or another group where PRB bought Russel or something like that and they claim to still be in business. I'm sort of curious to see how old the belts they ship out are. Are they just dried up, melted or just staning the yellow plastic back they come in? The whole belt measuring slide rule tool -5% should be fine in the other tape decks. > the ones that come the closest, make measurements while fresh then track > down a proper source. If they are just loading belts, you can probably leave > the rubberbands in and just replace them every few months. It's a real bitch to get to the tray belt as most of it's obscured by the front bezel. My spring tools won't even fit in there, will have to bendup paperclips or something. |
| Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com>: Oct 11 08:27PM > That's how I determined the unit works otherwise and deserves a proper > repair. The tray can be manually operated and the mechanism that ramps the > clamp assembly up and down is gear driven and works too. This was just too silly to not share as a video https://vimeo.com/186477070 |
| dansabrservices@yahoo.com: Oct 11 01:40PM -0700 Use a two pencils inside the belt and pull to the side. Measure the distance with a ruler and that should give you an estimate of the size. For the type of usage, the PRB/Russel belt would be either an SCA or SCQ type. I would guess that the measurement will be around 3. Try either an SCA3.0 or SCQ3.0 Note that the 3.0 in this case would be a circumference measurement. Dan |
| Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu>: Oct 11 05:26PM -0500 Cydrome Leader wrote: > assembly. One belt melted the other disintegrated. > Worst case, I can measure and guestimate once getting an worthwhile belt > order in place (might as well do the tape deck and VCRs at the same time). I've had surprisingly good luck replacing these with ordinary rubber bands! I was amazed they actually work, but they seem to do fine. Digi-Key seems to ship a lot of stuff in IC tubes with square cross-section reddish rubber bands holding the plugs in the ends, that are quite similar in size to the belts used in many of these decks. Jon |
| dansabrservices@yahoo.com: Oct 11 04:05PM -0700 In this case this is a loading belt which is not particularly important. For "drive" belts though, a more precise belt is usually required. |
| Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com>: Oct 11 11:50PM > In this case this is a loading belt which is not particularly important. For "drive" belts though, a more precise belt is usually required. The point here is to try as best as I can to identify the "best" belts and replace all the belts and tires in my stuff at once to justify an order of these things. Years, or decades ago you could pick this stuff up at a counter, one at a time if needed with no issues. It's all internet/mail order now. |
| dansabrservices@yahoo.com: Oct 11 04:54PM -0700 I still have a supply of good belts. There aren't too many in this unit. Measure the belts if you can. They are still available from suppliers. Believe it or not there are still a large number of VCRs being used. Dan |
| N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Oct 12 08:19AM +0100 On 11/10/2016 23:26, Jon Elson wrote: > bands holding the plugs in the ends, that are quite similar in size to the > belts used in many of these decks. > Jon Try against a soldering iron . You may find they are low grade silicone rubber, will take a lot more temperature than latex rubber and different smell. Not full grade high temp silicone , but dynamically and degradation purposes much better than latex. Price of latex gone up and silicone gone down recently. Its creeping into a lot of areas where latex was previously used for bands |
| Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com>: Oct 12 11:54AM > Years, or decades ago you could pick this stuff up at a counter, one at a > time if needed with no issues. It's all internet/mail order now. True but I'm still wondering if anything is available these days. http://russellind.com/downl.htm It does look like they combined, besides Russells line, they show the EVG and PRB listings, but I'm wondering if that is all nostalga. The web page itself hasn't been updated since 2009 and some of those catalogs are 10+ years old. Just saying, because it is still listed doesn't equal it being available. Although it does look like there is a belt market out there, it seems most places specialize in cassette and turntable ones. I didn't dig down real deep but it looks like MCM, which I used to order belts and wheels by the pound (well, a lot), just have a few general assortments of square and round ones, kits. Guess the days of page after page of flats, rounds and squares are history. -bruce bje@ripco.com |
| dansabrservices@yahoo.com: Oct 12 05:20AM -0700 The need for many different sizes of belts has gone. There are fewer pieces of equipment that require belts these days. CD and DVD players being the most common now, require only a few sizes as most are standard. Aside from older units that some are trying to maintain, there are few new items needing belts. There are newer models that use direct geared drives now too. As time goes on, there will be fewer suppliers, but these belts are still available. Those of us that still work on the older gear still use them. I stock quite an assortment because it was easier and cheaper to have the stock. Not all services work that way though. The main issue is to keep the belts from deteriorating over time. Dan |
| alam.rashid039@gmail.com: Oct 12 01:27AM -0700 On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 6:09:21 AM UTC+5:30, Cursitor Doom wrote: > tiny. Brushed it away and the pad's working fine again. That 1/000" > obstacle was the issue! Hopefully working again for another 25yrs now. > Thanks, all. dude it was little helpfull for me. I removed stucked rubber of the buttons on the circuit witch the screw drivers nail - point and it worked. Thanks. |
| alam.rashid039@gmail.com: Oct 12 01:31AM -0700 On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 6:09:21 AM UTC+5:30, Cursitor Doom wrote: > tiny. Brushed it away and the pad's working fine again. That 1/000" > obstacle was the issue! Hopefully working again for another 25yrs now. > Thanks, all. - show quoted text - dude it was little helpful for me. I removed stuked rubbers of the buttons on the circuit with the screw drivers nail -contact- point and it worked. Thanks |
| WiFiAdapterHelp <"WiFiHelp "@freeknew.com>: Oct 11 02:27PM -0700 Residential Home WiFi has interference from hot WiFi neighbors. The must be running watts output. Had the ISP install a new box that has AC WiFi, dual band etc. They gave me one AC adapter (USB) for my main PC. It is fast WiFi now. Now I want to get AC to USB Adapters for other laptop PCs. One is Windows XP the other is Windows 10. I see some units do not support Windows 10. I hope not to pay much more than $20 US. I see various units coming from unheard of manufacturers. They must have gotten a deal on the chips. Do I need one with a built-on antenna ? Seems desirable. Do I need speed greater than 600 ? I do not know how to translate that number to my needs. I'm watching movies on a PC that is WiFi to the viewing PC. Some units offer AP (access point) capability. That seems desirable. Suggestions please. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net --- |
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