Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 3 topics

Algeria Horan <algeriahoran@algeria.horan.net>: Oct 31 04:08PM

How long do LED shop/ceiling lights really last at full output anyway?
 
In another thread, the topic came up that LED lights may not last as long
nor as bright as claimed on the package:
 
Lights of America exaggerated LED light bulb performance
http://archive.jsonline.com/blogs/news/246355581.html
http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/08/federal-agency-sues-led-bulb-maker/
 
Since the failure mechanism is electronic as much as it's the fact that LEDs
diminish in light output over time, I wondered how long the LED lights (the
entire unit, including electronics) really last, and, what "rules" were in
place for the claims on the package (since I never get the life that the
fluorescent or incandescent bulbs claim either).
 
As just one (admittedly egregious) example, the bulbs referenced above:
 
CLAIM: Replaces light output from a 40 Watt bulb (aka 400 lumens)
TESTS: The F.T.C. found the bulbs produced only 74 lumens of light
 
CLAIM: The LED bulbs in question would last 30,000 hours
TESTS: They lost 80 percent of their light output after only 1,000 hours
 
That didn't even cover sudden failure from the electronics.
 
So, I wonder aloud ...
How long do LED shop/ceiling lights really last at full output anyway?
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Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com>: Oct 30 02:27PM -0500

Bruce Esquibel wrote:
 
> Looking up a 1964 Buick Wildcat, 425cu 8cyl (at random), they have
> closeout sets from $6.74 to high performance ones with ceramic boots,
> $73.89.
 
WOW, this looks WAY better than any car parts I've bought in the last couple
decades! Maybe they have a bunch of stock left over from 1950 that they are
still selling a couple of per year. Ignition coils run $50, spark plugs are
about $10 each, etc. Haven't had any rotors, points or distributor caps in
some time.
 
I'd be real cautious driving anything made before 1960 or so, if you hit
anything the steering shaft goes through your chest.
 
Jon
Bob Engelhardt <BobEngelhardt@comcast.net>: Oct 30 10:58PM -0400

On 10/30/2016 3:27 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
...
 
> I'd be real cautious driving anything made before 1960 or so, if you hit
> anything the steering shaft goes through your chest.
 
That's the 1948 version of a safety feature - it keeps you from driving
recklessly <G>.
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