Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 19 updates in 4 topics

"Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net>: Jan 13 09:15PM -0500

I have an APC Back-UPS ES 750 to which I have plugged in my PVR (a not
particularly high-powered computer, and with only one HD). It is not
indicating that the battery is dead and needs replacing, but whenever
the power goes off, even for just a second or two, the UPS indicates
that it is overloaded (no indicator lights, and continuous sound).
 
Is it worth replacing the battery just in case, or is this thing ready
for the recyclers?
 
Perce
Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net>: Jan 13 06:48PM -0800

In article <edtfo7Fu422U1@mid.individual.net>,
 
> Is it worth replacing the battery just in case, or is this thing ready
> for the recyclers?
 
> Perce
 
Whether it's "worth it" or not would depend on how much you're willing
to spend on the battery. Whether or not that will cure things, <shrug>
no way for me to say. The battery is the most likely thing to be
failing, but without a whole lot more information than you're likely
going to be able to give online, there's no way to be certain that's
truly the problem.
 
If you can get your hands on a battery cheap, it's worth trying. If
not...
 
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whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>: Jan 13 10:02PM -0800

On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 6:12:27 PM UTC-8, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
> the power goes off, even for just a second or two, the UPS indicates
> that it is overloaded (no indicator lights, and continuous sound).
 
> Is it worth replacing the battery just in case
 
Those batteries have a ten-year life. If it is ten years or more old,
and you need a UPS, just buy an APS replacement battery. They
recycle the old one for you...
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Jan 14 03:07AM -0800

whit3rd wrote:
 
 
> Those batteries have a ten-year life. If it is ten years or more old,
> and you need a UPS, just buy an APS replacement battery. They
> recycle the old one for you...
 
** It's just a regular SLA battery ( aka gell cell) - right ?
 
IME you are lucky to get more than 2 years out of one, specially when abused with massive, high current, short term discharges as here.
 
If not charged regularly, the things self destruct in about 1 to 2 years from NEW through internal corrosion.
 
As another poster has said, i'ts odds on the battery/s are stuffed.
 
 
 
.... Phil
Baron <baron@linuxmaniac.net>: Jan 14 12:42PM

Percival P. Cassidy prodded the keyboard with:
 
 
> Is it worth replacing the battery just in case, or is this thing
> ready for the recyclers?
 
> Perce
 
Use your car battery for a test !
 
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Andrew Rossmann <andysnewsreply@no_junk.comcast.net>: Jan 14 07:44AM -0600

In article <edtfo7Fu422U1@mid.individual.net>, Nobody@NotMyISP.net
says...
> that it is overloaded (no indicator lights, and continuous sound).
 
> Is it worth replacing the battery just in case, or is this thing ready
> for the recyclers?
 
I have several of these in various versions. The battery is a standard
12V, 9Ah battery. The latest 'real' APC battery is a Kung Long WP9-
125HR. I have also seen a CSB brand HR1234WF2.
 
Basically, it's a roughly 5.94x2.56x3.72 battery with .250 (1/4 inch)
terminals. Be aware that Amazon or others may link some of those part
numbers to other 'similar' batteries. Major names are CSB, PowerSonic.
 
Mouser Electronics has a genuine CSB for about $27.44.
 
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Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>: Jan 13 10:53AM -0500

On 01/13/2017 09:48 PM, Don Bruder wrote:
> truly the problem.
 
> If you can get your hands on a battery cheap, it's worth trying. If
> not...
 
Ditch the Back-UPS and get a Smart-UPS off eBay--they're much easier on
batteries. I collect the rebadged ones (IBM 750T) and stick Powersonic
batteries in them. I have four running at the moment.
 
Cheers
 
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mtfoley41@gmail.com: Jan 13 02:15PM -0800

There are 2023,2032 and 2025 batteries. My blood test meter calls for 2023. Don't know if the others will work equally well even though they are the same diameter.
M Philbrook <jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net>: Jan 13 05:43PM -0500

In article <8262f4db-c610-4d54-9d2d-2836b686c31c@googlegroups.com>,
mtfoley41@gmail.com says...
 
> There are 2023,2032 and 2025 batteries. My blood test meter calls for 2023. Don't know if the others will work equally well even though they are the same diameter.
 
First two digits are the width of the cell in MM, last two digits are
the thickness in fractional MM>
 
2023 = 20mm x 2.3 mm thick.
 
2032 = 20mm x 3.2 mm thick.
 
the voltages are the same in all, the thicker cells last longer and
provide more current if needed.
 
you should be able to use the 2032 cell if it isn't too thick to
close the cover.
dansabrservices@yahoo.com: Jan 13 02:44PM -0800

> There are 2023,2032 and 2025 batteries. My blood test meter calls for 2023. Don't know if the others will work equally well even though they are the same diameter.
 
The differences are load capacity. See the chart below:
 
Voltage Capacity
2023 3V 225mAh
2026 3V 163mAh
2032 3V 210mAh
 
All other specs are the same.
 
Dan
"Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com>: Jan 13 08:36PM -0300

On 13 Jan 17 at group /sci/electronics/repair in article 1c7a749f-4080-4db7-8a00-0b0ac417e649@googlegroups.com
> 2026 3V 163mAh
> 2032 3V 210mAh
 
> All other specs are the same.
 
Nope! Look for the thickness 2.3 2.6 and 3.2 mm!!!!
 
 
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dansabrservices@yahoo.com: Jan 13 05:41PM -0800

On Friday, January 13, 2017 at 6:35:26 PM UTC-5, Wolfgang Allinger wrote:
> Ich diskutiere zukünftig weniger mit Idioten, denn sie ziehen mich auf
> ihr Niveau herunter und schlagen mich dort mit ihrer Erfahrung! :p
> (lt. alter usenet Weisheit) iPod, iPhone, iPad, iTunes, iRak, iDiot
 
Agreed. I was looking at the electrical characteristics not the physical ones. I should have been clear.
 
Dan
Robert Roland <fake@ddress.no>: Jan 14 11:52AM +0100

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:44:55 -0800 (PST), dansabrservices@yahoo.com
wrote:
>2023 3V 225mAh
>2026 3V 163mAh
>2032 3V 210mAh
 
That can't be right? The thinnest one has the highest capacity. A
typo, maybe? I'd guess 125 mAh would be about right.
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Baron <baron@linuxmaniac.net>: Jan 14 12:46PM

Robert Roland prodded the keyboard with:
 
>>2032 3V 210mAh
 
> That can't be right? The thinnest one has the highest capacity. A
> typo, maybe? I'd guess 125 mAh would be about right.
 
That 2023 is a typo, should be 125mAh
 
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"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>: Jan 14 09:38PM +0800

On 14/1/2017 6:52 PM, Robert Roland wrote:
>> 2032 3V 210mAh
 
> That can't be right? The thinnest one has the highest capacity. A
> typo, maybe? I'd guess 125 mAh would be about right.
 
I am giving you a medal, with distinction, for spotting this mistake! :)
 
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"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>: Jan 14 09:39PM +0800

On 14/1/2017 8:46 PM, Baron wrote:
 
>> That can't be right? The thinnest one has the highest capacity. A
>> typo, maybe? I'd guess 125 mAh would be about right.
 
> That 2023 is a typo, should be 125mAh
 
I am giving you a medal, with distinction, for spotting and explaining
this mistake!
 
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"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>: Jan 14 09:41PM +0800

On 14/1/2017 7:36 AM, Wolfgang Allinger wrote:
 
> Nope! Look for the thickness 2.3 2.6 and 3.2 mm!!!!
 
Thickness is usually a reflection of capacity!
 
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"Newgene McMensa" <newgene.mcmensaREMOVE@gREMOVEmail.com>: Jan 13 07:49PM -0800

Howdy folks, bin a while scents I posted. I'm busy hiding out lately from the lovely Miseries on account of she has gone hog wild with her honey do list these days.
 
Just ran across this and figured it might be something fun to watch. Their last launch blew up on the pad. The webcast link has a good press release that gives good details each step from an hour before the countdown until the satellites are deployed. Kind of like watching the Rose Parade with a program.
 
Anyway, it's OT and just for fun.
 
The Former Snuffy
 
 
"David Farber" <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Jan 13 10:33AM -0800

Peter Gierschner wrote:
>> covering a uP. Thanks for your replies.
 
> can you show us the power-connector of the lamp?
 
> peter
 
Peter Gierschner wrote:
>> covering a uP. Thanks for your replies.
 
> can you show us the power-connector of the lamp?
 
> peter
 
Here is the connector:
http://webpages.charter.net/mrfixiter/images/Electronics/Music_light/DC-plug.jpg
 
I have a 5V 1.5A power supply from an old Epson Zip drive but the connector
is too big. The connector on the lamp seems to be on the smaller end of the
spectrum.
 
Here is the pc board:
http://webpages.charter.net/mrfixiter/images/Electronics/Music_light/PC-board-lamp.jpg
 
Thanks for your reply.
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Los Osos, CA
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