Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 16 updates in 3 topics

ohger1s@gmail.com: Jun 01 11:33AM -0700

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 9:42:14 AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:
 
> ** Can't let that pile of idiotic bull shite go by.
 
> FACT is :
 
> Philips and Sony had FIDELITY at the top of their list - so the proposed new system would have no possible sound quality shortcomings.
 
 
Bullshit. If they really wanted true fidelity they would have had a much better sampling rate. This was clearly a mass market solution with a lot of advantages, except one. Folks with tin ears find CDs without flaws.
 
> PLUS the usual benefit of PCM in being *infinitely* copyable without the slightest loss - a massive benefit the to recording industry.
 
CDs could have a sampling rate in the hundreds and they'd still be infinitely copyable. The fact is Phil that any digital format is infinitely copyable. Nothing unique about that.
 
 
> PLUS being immune from wear and tear deterioration in normal use for decades.
 
Any digital format would do that, and that has nothing to do with fidelity, which was my point.
 
> PLUS being convenient to use and low cost to produce as stampings.
 
Yada yada yada.. has nothing to do with fidelity.
 
 
> Obviously YOU are a complete, know nothing fuckwit.
 
> One of millions of on the internet
 
I guess you don't own a mirror Phil. To be honest I thought the Wiki entry of "know-nothing fuckwit" would have a picture of you as an example.
 
And since you're off your meds again and throwing shit around as if this were your own kitchen, let me just say that in regards to your first post (which, as a gentleman -most of the time- I ignored), let me say that most decent people wouldn't live in a house infested with roaches. Around these parts, you can't even get a mortgage on property so infested. Try emptying your sink of bean cans and Spam containers once a week or so and have your trailer fumigated.
 
Remind me not to have dinner at your house...
"None" <none@nospam.org>: Jun 01 11:03PM -0400

< brain-damaged-fuck-head @ retards.org > puked up
news:519fd8b9-e567-477f-98ba-348f51553186@googlegroups.com...
> Phil: Are you and 'None' related??
> Sure seems that way!
 
You really are obsessed with your dumb fuck hallucination. Anyone who
calls you out for being the brain-damaged retard that you prove
yourself to be online, you have to pretend that that person is me.
You've done it dozens of times over the years, and every time, you end
up with shit all over you. And then you alternate if with telling
everyone that I'm a "bot" (obviously you have no idea what a bot is).
 
> Most of your points were valid, until
> that last part I quoted.
 
You alone are the equivalent of a million or so retarded passengers on
the short-bus. And you seem to be obsessed with your quest to prove
that every day. KDFHS . FCKWAFA. AKDFHUIN. SBR!
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Jun 01 10:08PM -0700

ohg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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> > so the proposed new system would have no possible sound
> > quality shortcomings.
 
> Bullshit.
 
** It is absolute fact, pal.
 
FFS lean something about sampling theory.
 
Cos right now you are a total ignoramus.
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> > the slightest loss - a massive benefit the to recording industry.
 
> CDs could have a sampling rate in the hundreds and they'd still be
> infinitely copyable.
 
** SO what?
 
> The fact is Phil that any digital format is infinitely copyable.
 
** Some are not - Sony mini-disk for example.
 
 
 
> > PLUS being immune from wear and tear deterioration in normal use
> > for decades.
 
> Any digital format would do that,
 
** Tape based ones do not.
 
 
> > Obviously YOU are a complete, know nothing fuckwit.
 
> > One of millions of on the internet
 
> I guess you don't own a mirror Phil.
 
 
** The debate about sampling rates and bit depth was all over about 30 years ago. Linear PCM of CD standard has no audible flaws.
 
Kindly go and fuck yourslef.
 
You're first class, raving lunatic.
 
 
 
 
.... Phil
ohger1s@gmail.com: Jun 02 04:26AM -0700

On Friday, June 2, 2017 at 1:08:30 AM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:
 
 
> ** The debate about sampling rates and bit depth was all over about 30 years ago. Linear PCM of CD standard has no audible flaws.
 
That's your opinion Phil. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a "know-nothing fuckwit". CD player manufacturers have done a good job implementing necessary filtering schemes to mask the inherent problem of rounding off too few bits to mimic a good analogue waveform.
 
At this point in my life, I've gotten used to listening to MP3 files - so along with the diminished response of my hearing over the years, I still use and enjoy my CD player. If Philips/Sony had not sacrificed playing time for fidelity back then, it wouldn't matter to me now. But musical fidelity of the CD standard was not paramount to them; compactness and playing time were numbers one and two.
 
 
 
> Kindly go and fuck yourslef.
 
 
Not possible, but thank you for asking kindly.
 
 
> You're first class, raving lunatic.
 
Raving? Note to myself to turn off my webcam....
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Jun 02 05:05AM -0700

ohg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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> > ** The debate about sampling rates and bit depth was all over about
> > 30 years ago. Linear PCM of CD standard has no audible flaws.
 
> That's your opinion Phil.
 
** And everyone else too.
 
You are a lone, mad dog.
 
 
 
> Not everyone who disagrees with you is a "know-nothing fuckwit".
 
 
** But an ignoramus like you absolutely qualifies for that the title.
 
 
 
 
> > Kindly go and fuck yourslef.
 
> Not possible,
 
** Yes it is.
 
Put a gun to your head and pull the trigger.
 
That will fuck you.

 
 
 
.... Phil
Chris Jones <lugnut808@spam.yahoo.com>: Jun 02 10:44PM +1000


>> FACT is :
 
>> Philips and Sony had FIDELITY at the top of their list - so the proposed new system would have no possible sound quality shortcomings.
 
> Bullshit. If they really wanted true fidelity they would have had a much better sampling rate. This was clearly a mass market solution with a lot of advantages, except one. Folks with tin ears find CDs without flaws.
 
This page has a pretty good discussion of it:
 
https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html
mike <ham789@netzero.net>: Jun 01 05:47PM -0700

I found a couple of Tektronix 1501 TDR units in the attic.
They're B-phase prototypes.
One seems to mostly work.
Symptoms suggest that the sampling gate is stuck open.
It's not easy to probe assembled and you can't run it
when it's disassembled. It's put together like a Chinese
jigsaw puzzle.
I have enough ancient TEK sampling parts that I could probably
fix it.
I'm way too lazy to take it apart and try to draw the schematic.
It's not worth a lot of effort, but I hate to see stuff go to the dump
just because it's old and infirm...looks like I'm projecting here.;-)
 
Google turned up nothing.
 
Anybody got a pointer to a free download of a 1501 service manual?
Or at least a scan of the schematic of the sampler board?
 
Thanks, mike
jurb6006@gmail.com: Jun 01 11:12PM -0700

Bama has the 1502. Think that might help ?
mike <ham789@netzero.net>: Jun 02 12:31AM -0700

> Bama has the 1502. Think that might help ?
 
I have a 1502 and manual. Completely different.
thanks,
JC <Chipbee40_SpamNo@yahoo.com>: Jun 02 08:38AM -0400

On 6/2/2017 3:31 AM, mike wrote:
>> Bama has the 1502. Think that might help ?
 
> I have a 1502 and manual. Completely different.
> thanks,
 
Qservice supply ops & service as a download for 10 bucks, worth it? up
to you.
 
http://www.qservice.tv/vpasp/shopexd.asp?id=433
root <NoEMail@home.org>: Jun 01 06:14PM

I have a Kindle DX that has twice discharged the battery
completely over night when the device was laid flat on
a table. Normally I put the device on a shelf standing
upright when it isn't in use and the battery never
discharges in that case.
 
It isn't a case of leaving the device "on" because the
DX turns itself off after a few minutes, and I don't think
that on/off affects the rate of discharge. The DX is
an e-paper device that, as I understand it, consumes power
only when the pages are written to the screen.
 
Is it conceivable that the position of a Li battery
could affect its self discharge rate?
Foxs Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Jun 01 01:52PM -0500

On 6/1/2017 1:14 PM, root wrote:
> I have a Kindle DX that has twice discharged the battery
> completely over night when the device was laid flat on
> a table.
 
It's trying unsuccessfully to talk to the mother ship.
 
 
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N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk>: Jun 01 07:53PM +0100

On 01/06/2017 19:14, root wrote:
> only when the pages are written to the screen.
 
> Is it conceivable that the position of a Li battery
> could affect its self discharge rate?
 
What happens if you invert it in both cses of being in the horizontal
and vertical overnight situations?
root <NoEMail@home.org>: Jun 01 07:28PM

>> completely over night when the device was laid flat on
>> a table.
 
> It's trying unsuccessfully to talk to the mother ship.
 
Thanks, but wireless is disabled, and if it were that it would
also try when the device is upright.
root <NoEMail@home.org>: Jun 01 07:32PM

>> could affect its self discharge rate?
 
> What happens if you invert it in both cses of being in the horizontal
> and vertical overnight situations?
 
I don't understand. I am very reluctant to allow the unit to
lie horizontal for fear that it will discharge. After discharge
the ordering of the (389) books is all screwed up.
 
It doesn't seem to hurt if the DX lies flat for a short time,
but overnight has twice been a killer. I am clutching at
straws for an explanation since the only times I have left
the DX off the shelf it came up empty the next morning.
 
Google reveals no position sensitive self-discharge.
Lee <cyberwitch@ukonline.net>: Jun 01 09:12PM +0100

On 01/06/2017 20:32, root wrote:
 
> I don't understand. I am very reluctant to allow the unit to
> lie horizontal for fear that it will discharge. After discharge
> the ordering of the (389) books is all screwed up.
 
I would suspect a bug in the whatever it's using to do screen
orientation sensing.
It should be off in sleep, but they've had other power draining bugs,
like the 3G one...
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