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| jethro tull <heavytull@outlook.com>: Sep 01 04:10PM > like on a tape reel for auto insertion, or loose, or in a tube. > Regards, > Tim i know GX, GY, GZ indicate the gain range of the device. But I would like to know if the new suffix added by renesas refers to one of these or is a new thing. The ref. code on the device consists only of these two letters followed by two or more letters. The latter I have no indication for what it stands. It could indeed be an information refering to the plant or shipping conditions ... |
| Tom Biasi <tombiasi@optonline.net>: Sep 01 10:14AM -0400 On 9/1/2017 3:57 AM, rickman wrote: > program started) and was taught the SI system. I believe prior to SI > there was a metric system that had a few units that were different from > today's SI by some powers of 10. CGS and dynes come to mind. I gave you my experience and you disagree. That's it. Here is a cut from a Wiki article of which seems to be my experience also. "The U.S. Metric Study recommended that the United States implement a carefully planned transition to the principal use of the metric system over a decade. Congress passed the Metric Conversion Act of 1975 "to coordinate and plan the increasing use of the metric system in the United States". Voluntary conversion was initiated, and the United States Metric Board (USMB) was established for planning, coordination, and public education. The public education component led to public awareness of the metric system, but the public response included resistance, apathy, and sometimes ridicule." |
| rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>: Sep 01 10:35AM -0400 Look165 wrote on 9/1/2017 4:28 AM: > It is worthless. > The animal bodies are regulated by the 24h system. Not sure what you are talking about. Animal rhythms are related to a daily cycle, it has nothing to do with "hours". > And it would be necessary to redefine the reference second which is now > related to the cesiuaam atom.It is the international reference like the > meter also related to this atom The second is defined as vibrations of the cesium atom in the same way the yard is defined in feet. If we wish to change the definition of the yard to four feet we do that and are done. Likewise we can change the definition of the second in the same way to a different number of vibrations of the cesium atom. Has anyone pointed out that top posting is hard to reply to? -- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998 |
| rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>: Sep 01 10:36AM -0400 > Mpffffff... what is unique about time-keeping as-practiced? It is base-12. Meaning that its 24-hour days are nicely divisible by more prime numbers than if it were base-10. It also goes nicely with 360 degrees, and such. It is something that entire world agrees to - one of the very few things. > Esperanto, anyone? Instead of redefining time measures, we should use base 12 for our day to day computations? That might actually be less work. -- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998 |
| rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>: Sep 01 11:10AM -0400 Tom Biasi wrote on 9/1/2017 10:14 AM: > (USMB) was established for planning, coordination, and public education. The > public education component led to public awareness of the metric system, but > the public response included resistance, apathy, and sometimes ridicule." You didn't answer the question about what teaching you did exactly. I don't know what "That's it" means. I will rephrase my statement. The resistance to metric was less than the resistance we have to our current President. No one marched in the streets. No one filed actions with the Supreme Court. Yeah, people were people and we had some editorials and a few indicated they had no reason to change, such as the machine shop I worked with at the time. But they eventually acquired metric capability anyway. The "apathy" was the largest component of the response to changing to the metric system by far. If the government had stayed the course we would have been converted long ago and all the pain would be behind us. I wonder why the wikipedia quote doesn't mention the fact that we did the conversion in cooperation with Canada? Because wikipedia sucks and often is not 100% accurate. Never use them for any disputed point without looking at the references. From the Popular Science web site, "A Gallup poll at the time showed that 45 percent of Americans opposed the switch." That means less than half! Here is a better reference... from NIST. https://www.nist.gov/sites/default/files/documents/pml/wmd/metric/1136a.pdf While the Congressional study recommended a coordinated conversion over a ten year period, Congress made the actual conversion voluntary. Consistent with the "apathy" part of your statement above, the efforts of the Metric Board were much ignored and the board was dissolved. Today metric is a much larger part of our lives and I believe a conversion would not be resisted and in fact, welcomed by a much larger percentage of the population. Anyone who works on cars has both types of tools. Measuring sticks and tapes often are marked in both systems. Goods on store shelves are already marked in both systems. We are presently primed for the conversion. There is some irony in a personal anecdote. I was a contractor with the Federal government and had to fill out forms justifying buying something that wasn't measured in metric. The crusty old government employee who oversaw purchasing didn't want to risk his pension so *everything* we bought had to have this document. I ordered a board that *was* metric so I didn't fill in the form and my PR was rejected. When I explained to him the board was metric he didn't believe you could buy anything in the US that *was* metric!!! This was in the 90's. -- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998 |
| "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Sep 01 08:17AM -0700 On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 10:36:59 AM UTC-4, rickman wrote: = > Instead of redefining time measures, we should use base 12 for our day to > day computations? That might actually be less work. That would instantly remove (at least) 35% of Americans from the computational pool. Without 12 fingers, they would be entirely lost. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
| rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>: Sep 01 11:32AM -0400 >> Instead of redefining time measures, we should use base 12 for our day to >> day computations? That might actually be less work. > That would instantly remove (at least) 35% of Americans from the computational pool. Without 12 fingers, they would be entirely lost. I posted this here because I figured the most resistance would come from a community that has a large interest in keeping things the same. So far no one has said much about the impact on repair. -- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998 |
| "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Sep 01 08:37AM -0700 On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 11:33:03 AM UTC-4, rickman wrote: > I posted this here because I figured the most resistance would come from a > community that has a large interest in keeping things the same. So far no > one has said much about the impact on repair. Hence the indirect reference to that 35% of Americans who are unable to compute without their fingers. Not only do they want things to stay the same, but they would very much like to roll back the clock by about a century, or two. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
| Tom Biasi <tombiasi@optonline.net>: Sep 01 12:03PM -0400 On 9/1/2017 11:10 AM, rickman wrote: > so I didn't fill in the form and my PR was rejected. When I explained > to him the board was metric he didn't believe you could buy anything in > the US that *was* metric!!! This was in the 90's. To answer your question I taught classes to the public under guidelines from the United States Metric Board (USMB) in 1975. I don't see why you needed to bring in the President, I don't wish a political discussion. |
| rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com>: Sep 01 11:40AM -0400 Trevor Wilson wrote on 9/1/2017 6:26 AM: >> Seems to me electing bad leaders is not unique to the US. Which country >> are you from? Never had any bad leaders, huh? > **Australia and, yes. We've had a few, but none quite as appalling as Trump. I know little about your leaders, but you have some great entertainment. Jim Jefferies is a hoot, but I like his specials better than his show. I watch several TV shows from down under, Ms Fletcher, Rake, Dr. Blake, and I'm just startng Bess... -- Rick C Viewed the eclipse at Wintercrest Farms, on the centerline of totality since 1998 |
| "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Sep 01 08:57AM -0700 On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron. In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican. H.L. Mencken We are all born ignorant. However, one has to work hard to remain stupid. Ben Franklin No, you are NOT entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. Harlan Ellison. None of the above are mine. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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