| "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Nov 06 10:53AM -0800 Coming very late into this: I came up on air-cooled VWs, and have done about everything on these beasts but those things that required an hydraulic press or welding. Today, I will change tires, brakes, oil, coolant, plugs, sensors, and other discrete go/no-go devices. And I have some throw-back opinions: Brake fluid and coolant gets three (3) years before a flush and re-fill. Tires get five (5) years max no matter what the state of wear. Trans Fluid (Auto) gets 100,000 miles. Trans Fluid (clutch) gets 40,000 - 80,000 miles depending on type. Oil is synthetic, and gets 10,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first. With the trans fluid, so goes the differential fluid(s). Otherwise, modern tooling being what it is, my mechanic can get what I need a weekend to finish done in a couple of hours _AND_ he gives me a warranty. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
| Tekkie® <Tekkie@comcast.net>: Nov 06 02:32PM -0500 RS Wood posted for all of us... > and fluids, but not the six things above. > What are some car-repair jobs you always wished you could do but have never > done? I have done all except #3. The worst job I consider is exhaust. I guess that has diminished these days. The hardest is being a good diagnostician. -- Tekkie |
| Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.net>: Nov 06 03:00PM -0500 On 11/6/2017 12:12 PM, RS Wood wrote: > says. > So you have experience on your side. > I have simple factual logic on mine. Never said you were stupid. You may be a nice guy in person but you come across as an arrogant @#$ that knows everything and the rest of us know nothing. We can never be as good as you. A good engineer would know that even simple things like piston rings can be improved in many ways, yet you insist they are no different than ones made 60 years ago. Well, maybe if you think that is correct you cannot be a real engineer. I have known many engineers, have a couple in the family but none would make that statement. I do know people like you though. Any of theses your projects? https://www.livescience.com/55619-engineering-disasters.html |
| Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>: Nov 07 07:26AM +1100 On 7/11/2017 2:20 AM, RS Wood wrote: > 3. Chain > We have to pick one. > Which is the most reliable? Gear by far, chain next, belt last. Noisiest; Gear, chain, belt -- Xeno |
| Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.net>: Nov 06 03:33PM -0500 On 11/6/2017 12:04 PM, RS Wood wrote: > Ask me *anything* about "history, discovery, science, and the rest of the > world". > What makes you think that only watching TV will gain you that information? Did I say that is the only way? No, I did not. You are making up things to suit you. You did, however, take the time to infer you know everything about history, discovery, science, and the rest of the world. Books are great, but seeing some things on TV can be very enjoyable and educational for those of us that don't know everything.. You can watch an episode of "How It Made" and they may do a segment on piston rings and the latest technology. |
| "Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien1@virginmedia.com>: Nov 06 08:36PM "Tekkie®" <Tekkie@comcast.net> wrote in message news:RM2MB.70895$Q03.48094@fx44.iad... > The worst job I consider is exhaust. I guess that has diminished these > days. > The hardest is being a good diagnostician. Diagnostics can be challenging when *EVERYTHING* rattles................. |
| Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>: Nov 07 07:39AM +1100 On 7/11/2017 2:26 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > honestly can't give you a valid reason for doing so other than I like > the color better. > The guy that gets my old one with 38k miles is getting a real cream puff. My wife pressured me for a new one last year. Bought her one, then traded mine a month later. She's done 14k kilometres in hers, I'm up to 35k kilometres already. -- Xeno |
| Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>: Nov 07 07:40AM +1100 On 7/11/2017 2:42 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > indy at $50 but takes three hours to figure out the problem. If my > adaptive cruise control stopped working I'm not trusting the corner gas > station. True that. The indy doesn't have access to all the needed info for a start. Nor the dealer training. They are both important. -- Xeno |
| Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>: Nov 07 07:48AM +1100 >> Arrogant people think the know everything. > I've always said it's what you learn AFTER you know it all that > REALLY counts - - - I only really started learning *after* I completed my apprenticeship - and I've never stopped learning ever since. -- Xeno |
| Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>: Nov 07 07:49AM +1100 On 7/11/2017 3:49 AM, RS Wood wrote: >> I regard dust as a protective coating. > That was a good one. > Mind if I borrow it when my wife asks me to clean up the house? Wouldn't work here. My wife is anal about dust. -- Xeno |
| Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>: Nov 07 07:51AM +1100 On 7/11/2017 3:57 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: > 95% of it is crap, but there are some excellent shows on History, > Discovery, Science that will broaden your horizons and educate you about > the rest of the world. I have a TV, I also have cable. They are for my wife. I watch docos, etc on the internet. I prefer to schedule my own viewing. -- Xeno |
| Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>: Nov 07 07:59AM +1100 On 7/11/2017 6:32 AM, Tekkie® wrote: > I have done all except #3. > The worst job I consider is exhaust. I guess that has diminished these days. > The hardest is being a good diagnostician. That is the easiest providing you have a good understanding of the underlying systems, possess a good range of diagnostic equipment and, finally, know how to use it. For judgemental issues, know first what is *normal*, then you can easily recognise *abnormal*. -- Xeno |
| Tekkie® <Tekkie@comcast.net>: Nov 06 04:09PM -0500 clare@snyder.on.ca posted for all of us... > to the traction of a rear wheel drive car with no extra weight in the > rear - - - > I've had my say on belts What about suspenders? <g> -- Tekkie |
| "Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien1@virginmedia.com>: Nov 06 09:30PM "Tekkie®" <Tekkie@comcast.net> wrote in message news:ec4MB.70902$Q03.60073@fx44.iad... >> rear - - - >> I've had my say on belts > What about suspenders? <g> Pantyhose - her knees go up and down while you're shagging her. |
| "Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien1@virginmedia.com>: Nov 06 09:34PM "Xeno" <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:f6c066Fn437U4@mid.individual.net... >> That was a good one. >> Mind if I borrow it when my wife asks me to clean up the house? > Wouldn't work here. My wife is anal about dust. "anal" and "dust" in the same sentence conjours up a vision............ |
| RS Wood <rswood@is.invalid>: Nov 07 12:19AM Xeno wrote: > I only really started learning *after* I completed my apprenticeship - > and I've never stopped learning ever since. You stop learning only when you're dead. I learned a LOT in this thread, particularly about WHY engines last forever, and why exhausts last forever, and why bearings last forever, and why ball joints last forever. That's all good. I didn't learn a thing on rings that I didn't already know though. :) I'm all prepared to learn how the metallurgy or shape of rings is different nowadays versus yesteryear, but I haven't seen any reference that shows even the slightest improvement over the years. It might be there, but saying it's there isn't the same as it being there. Proof in logic is always very simple. |
| RS Wood <rswood@is.invalid>: Nov 07 12:19AM > get down to brass tacks because they are basing their "logic" on false > pretexts. Their initial thesis is wrong and they just try to make > reality fit their warped reality. If you think FWD is all about handling, then "your" logic should have a ton of references to back it up. If you think slotted rotors make any real difference on the street, then you should be able to find a ton of reference that proves that (and not some EBC marketing bullshit). If you think rotors warp in street use then you should be able to find a ton of references to back up your logic. On any topic you see me take a stand on, it's not "my" logic but the logic that has tons of references that back it up. Witness the fact that I gave you a ton of references on rotor warp. Now I understand that people don't think things through, so I understand the 20-year-old kid who thinks FWD is all about handling because he falls for the marketing bullshit. I understand all that. But if you're over 70, you should have figured out that marketing is almost all bullshit and very little logic by now. You're not a young kid anymore. Logic has to show up sometime in your life. It just has to. |
| RS Wood <rswood@is.invalid>: Nov 07 12:19AM Ed Pawlowski wrote: > Never said you were stupid. You may be a nice guy in person but you > come across as an arrogant @#$ that knows everything and the rest of us > know nothing. We can never be as good as you. I don't know everything and I actually don't know much but I use logic on it all and I've been on car forums for decades, where there always young kids who fall for the marketing bullshit every time. Not only do they fall for the marketing bullshit about FWD, rotor warp, drilled rotors, pad friction, and so on, but they also desperately want to BELIEVE the marketing that their car is special. I can't count the number of "red" coolant "blue" coolant threads there are from kids on Toyota and BMW forums respectively who want to desperately feel that their engines are somehow special and therefore they require special fluids (when water works as well). These are all age-old arguments along the lines of "what oil" that I'm just sick of. So it shows here and I get cranky, especially last night. > be improved in many ways, yet you insist they are no different than ones > made 60 years ago. Well, maybe if you think that is correct you cannot > be a real engineer. You completely whoooshed on what I said, which is that I'll believe anything if someone proves it. Anything. I believe in gravitons for heaven's sake, and string theory, and that spacetime is warped by mass. I'll believe anything if someone has a logical argument for it. But if their "logical" argument is that Detroit came out with FWD for handling reasons, not only is that illogical by failing every logical argument known to mankind, but it's nothing new. It's the same crap the 18 year old kids spew on the car forums. It's the lack of logic I decry. The whole brake warp idiocy suffers from the same complete lack of logic. So does the drilled versus solid rotors. If people actually followed their own logic, they'd be forced to undertand, but they don't. Take octane ratings for example, which we haven't covered. Do you know how many times I've heard morons tell me that there is a lot of octane in gasoline? Do you want to know how many times I hear people say they put the high-test into an engine that isn't spec'd for resistance to knocking and they declare they get better performance and mpg? Morons all follow their own convoluted logic but it always stops short of finding a reference that backs them up. That's why here, I kept asking for reference, which I *knew* would never exist because I could logically see the fallacy that they emotionally cannot. Mind you I don't take names. I just don't. If a post says something stupid and it happens to be from my mother, I'll call the post out for it. And if the post says something intelligent and I happened to have reamed that person five minutes prior for idiocy, I'll thank them and congratulate them. > I have known many engineers, have a couple in the family but none would > make that statement. I do know people like you though. You *should* know people like me. We're called logical people. We don't believe only in Marketing Bullshit. I *hope* you know people like me. Dear God. I hope. > Any of theses your projects? > https://www.livescience.com/55619-engineering-disasters.html I'm into biomedical engineering. |
| RS Wood <rswood@is.invalid>: Nov 07 12:19AM Xeno wrote: > True that. The indy doesn't have access to all the needed info for a > start. Nor the dealer training. They are both important. I disagree but I understand why you say that. You would presume that the dealer knows the most about the car. That hasn't been my experience. The parts guys are horrendously bad and the service guys marginally better. I don't think it stems from ignorance as much as not caring. This is mostly Toyota and BMW I'm talking though, so maybe your dealer is a different brand. |
| Pat <pat@nospam.us>: Nov 06 01:50PM -0500 On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 10:01:55 -0800, "David Farber" >datasheet, the NE-2 has a breakdown voltage of 65VAC. The high brightness >bulbs have a higher breakdown voltage of 95VAC. >Thanks for your reply. You do know that only 2 of the three bulbs should be lit for a good outlet, right? The ones going from hot to ground and hot to neutral should be on. The one going from neutral to ground is always off unless hot and neutral have been swapped due to a wiring mistake. |
| "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Nov 06 11:50AM -0800 On Monday, November 6, 2017 at 1:50:33 PM UTC-5, Pat wrote: > outlet, right? The ones going from hot to ground and hot to neutral > should be on. The one going from neutral to ground is always off > unless hot and neutral have been swapped due to a wiring mistake. Yes. Like this: http://www.liberty-hi-railers.com/images/outlet_tester.jpg The neutral line lights only when there are swaps, and only in two of five conditions. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
| "David Farber" <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Nov 06 11:54AM -0800 Pat wrote: > outlet, right? The ones going from hot to ground and hot to neutral > should be on. The one going from neutral to ground is always off > unless hot and neutral have been swapped due to a wiring mistake. Hi Pat, I am aware that only two of the three bulbs are supposed to light under normal circumstances. The hot to ground light is not working which is giving the false indication that the ground is open when in fact the ground is in good condition. Thanks for your reply. -- David Farber Los Osos, CA |
| whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>: Nov 06 12:26PM -0800 On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 10:36:54 PM UTC-8, David Farber wrote: > I have one of those polarity/line/ground checker plugs. It has three lamps > that illuminate according to the condition of the 120VAC outlet. The neon > light that illuminates indicating a good ground is not lighting up anymore. Yes, that replacement will work fine. So will almost any neon lamp that physically fits. Your cost, after shipping, will be a little more than the cost of a new checker plug... These lamps can fail because of slow gas leakage, so if the other two seem dim, or flicker, it might be prudent to swap them out as well. |
| "David Farber" <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Nov 06 01:02PM -0800 whit3rd wrote: > more than the cost of a new checker plug... > These lamps can fail because of slow gas leakage, so if the other two > seem dim, or flicker, it might be prudent to swap them out as well. Someone in this group mentioned a while back that if you send a check or cash and prepay your order to Digi-Key, you get free shipping no matter how small your order. That helps out when you only need a few parts. Thanks for your reply. -- David Farber Los Osos, CA |
| tabbypurr@gmail.com: Nov 06 01:02PM -0800 On Monday, 6 November 2017 18:50:33 UTC, Pat wrote: > outlet, right? The ones going from hot to ground and hot to neutral > should be on. The one going from neutral to ground is always off > unless hot and neutral have been swapped due to a wiring mistake. Modern units seem to use more complex circuits where all 3 normally light. NT |
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