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micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>: Apr 08 05:01PM +0300 I'm renting a brand-new car, a 2018 High'N'Dry, that has a USB style port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but will not charge the phone using the same port. Isn't that very unusual? Impossible?   It also does not have an AUX port. Isn't that very, very unusual for a car radio that has a "Media" button and which plays from a USB style port? If they go to the trouble to put in the USB circuit and jack, how much more trouble is it to put in the AUX circuit and jack. Don't the chips have both to begin with, because it's cheaper to make only one chip than a different one for each model?   But the point of my post is:   1) There is no adapter made which will change a 2.5mm stereo plug into a USB connector, right??   2) I found this: https://yourthingstore.com/products/bluetooth-fm-transmitter-car-charger but it has what seems to me to be the strangest disclaimer:   "With total contact conductive electrode, the product has the compatibility to the usage of most cars' cigarette lighter. All kinds of Nissan, KIA and Subaru car are not included. Besides, Honda (Odyssey/CITY/Vezel/Crider/FIT/XR-V), Toyota(Vios), New Citroen, New Jetta, Peugeot(201/301/2008) are also not applicable. You can check the internal structures of cigarette lighters to confirm if it is applicable or not."   What about the internal structures of the cigarette lighter could possibly cause this to not work if it works in other cars? Isn't it a straight 12 volts? Do they have the polarity reversed on some** cars? Hard to believe but what else is there?   Aha! The physical shape! Is that it? It looks like it is of unremarkable shape.   **Especially hard to believe on some Toyotas but not others, some Hondas but not others, etc. Though it's good to see that this will apparently work on all American cars.   I ask not because this one item is so important but maybe this one is just more diligent about putting the warning

"BurfordTJustice" <burford/associate@uk.MI15>: Apr 08 10:02AM -0400 You should never come out of your safe space.....           "micky" <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:o7ujcdp99ad43mhj8uqdjh3ep46d3h6h9h@4ax.com... : I'm renting a brand-new car, a 2018 High'N'Dry, that has a USB style : port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but will : not charge the phone using the same port. Isn't that very unusual? : Impossible? : : It also does not have an AUX port. Isn't that very, very unusual for a : car radio that has a "Media" button and which plays from a USB style : port? If they go to the trouble to put in the USB circuit and jack, : how much more trouble is it to put in the AUX circuit and jack. Don't : the chips have both to begin with, because it's cheaper to make only one : chip than a different one for each model? : : But the point of my post is: : : 1) There is no adapter made which will change a 2.5mm stereo plug into : a USB connector, right?? : : 2) I found this: : https://yourthingstore.com/products/bluetooth-fm-transmitter-car-charger : but it has what seems to me to be the strangest disclaimer: : : "With total contact conductive electrode, the product has the : compatibility to the usage of most cars' cigarette lighter. : All kinds of Nissan, KIA and Subaru car are not included. Besides, Honda : (Odyssey/CITY/Vezel/Crider/FIT/XR-V), Toyota(Vios), New Citroen, New : Jetta, Peugeot(201/301/2008) are also not applicable. : You can check the internal structures of cigarette lighters to confirm : if it is applicable or not." : : What about the internal structures of the cigarette lighter could : possibly cause this to not work if it works in other cars? Isn't it a : straight 12 volts? Do they have the polarity reversed on some** cars? : Hard to believe but what else is there? : : Aha! The physical shape! Is that it? It looks like it is of : unremarkable shape. : : **Especially hard to believe on some Toyotas but not others, some Hondas : but not others, etc. Though it's good to see that this will : apparently work on all American cars. : : I ask not because this one item is so important but maybe this one is : just more diligent about putting the warning

Henry Ford <henry@ford.usa>: Apr 08 10:25AM -0400 On 4/8/2018 10:01 AM, micky wrote: > port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but will > not charge the phone using the same port. Isn't that very unusual? > Impossible?   2018 High'N'Dry USB port must be broken or is a mal-engineered piece of shit. FWIW, I use the USB ports in my Fords for charging phones and playing flashdrives.

Ed Pawlowski <esp@snet.net>: Apr 08 10:38AM -0400 On 4/8/2018 10:01 AM, micky wrote: > port that allows me to play a flashdrive through the radio -- but will > not charge the phone using the same port. Isn't that very unusual? > Impossible?   I guess anything is possible, but the ability to charge a phone is a big feature in cars today. Have you tried a different cord?

micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com>: Apr 08 06:00PM +0300 In sci.electronics.repair, on Sun, 8 Apr 2018 10:38:01 -0400, Ed >> Impossible?   >I guess anything is possible, but the ability to charge a phone is a big >feature in cars today. Have you tried a different cord?   It's the same cord i used in the previous car. Oh, and after I noticed that it wasn't charging, I put a USB to cigarette adapter in that cigarette lighter port, and it's been working fine since then.   They told me I had to return the car for inspection and take the new one which is not nearly as nice.   I do have another cord but it takes 2 hands to plug anything in there, using one finger of each hand. When I use two fingers of one hand, I can't get my hand in far enough!

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Apr 07 12:08PM -0500 > Tell you what, YOU get over YOURSELF Snit.   Bwahahaha, Et tu Brutus?   Careful there son, or people are going to think you're that asshole troll.   > There are those who better pray that I never catch cancer > and am going to die soon because I might just decide to do > the world a few favors.   Oooh, vague death threats.     -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

peter wieck <peterwieck9@gmail.com>: Apr 07 10:46AM -0700 What a field-day for the heat A thousand people in the street Singing songs and carrying signs Mostly say, hooray for our side   It's s time we stop, hey, what's that sound Everybody look what's going down   Paranoia strikes deep Into your life it will creep It starts when you're always afraid Step out of line, the men come and take you away   Rest assured. The "Man" knows about you, what you eat, your browsing habits, pretty much everything there is to know about your sex life and much more.   The single question you must ask is how much you will let that affect your life as it *WILL NOT CHANGE*. Frankly, I don't give a damn as I don't have one single thing going on in my life such that the "Man" knowing would make one scintilla of a difference.   Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

jurb6006@gmail.com: Apr 07 04:25PM -0700 >"Frankly, I don't give a damn as I don't have one single thing going on in my life such that the "Man" knowing would make one scintilla of a difference. "   Not enough people would do it but I have a plan. Want privacy ? Ironic as it may sound, as a friend of a friend said when he was selling a car : "Motherfucker be lookin' for thaings motherfucker be findin' thaings". I shit you not.   So they want to snoop ? Let them, you know what a sigline is right ? Just set up a macro like that with words similar to :   "bomb, pentagon, drudge, Alex Jones, Randy Weaver, 911, anthrax, dirty bomb, suitcase, Constitution, freedom, original 13th amendment, bankers, admiralty jurisdiction, 50 round magazine, full auto, grenade, real anarchists cookbook, acid, pizza, lolita, virgins, kibbutz, mosque basement, OKC, Waco, 50 caliber, plastique, detonator, speed sensor, car bomb, ebola, militia, unorganized, amendment, jurisdiction, tyrant black robe, meek as sheep, writ, commerce, lien, common law, government default, start freedom project, bannister wrong, Porton Down, brotherhood, Arayan, the joint, on the slide, NATO round..." and so forth. Mixem up. Everybody do it.   If you're White throw in Farakkan, Islam and a few others. If you're Black throw in Pierce, Strom, Zimmerman and a few others.   And you need combinations of keywords to raise the red flag, not just one word. You have to put them together. And of course edit it every once in a while. One of two things happens, they act or not, if not they are likely to know what you're doing with that but can't do a damn thing about it. Through signature lines use what appear to be code words, just use them in similar context more than once. Spin a nice yarn about a plot to blow up something.   If you succeed they will contact you and try to goad you into doing something they think you would be willing to do. That is when you turn the tables on them. Have a recorder at all times. Evne tap your own cellphone. Assemble a ton of evidence and then takeit to the media.   MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !   Takes balls, but if you want to get anywhere...

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Apr 07 08:04PM -0500 > Not enough people would do it but I have a plan.   And this has even LESS to with Amateur radio than the other rambling shit you've posted.   -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

jurb6006@gmail.com: Apr 07 08:47PM -0700 >"And this has even LESS to with Amateur radio than the other rambling shit you've posted. "   Nope, privacy issue.   About that acoustically coupled MODEM again ? How about the model and specs. Do you have a schematic ?

bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net>: Apr 08 12:59AM -0400 On 04/07/2018 01:46 PM, peter wieck wrote: > It starts when you're always afraid > Step out of line, the men come and take you away   > Rest assured. The "Man" knows about you, what you eat, your browsing habits, pretty much everything there is to know about your sex life and much more.   Ha ha ha, I bet he's jealous on the last point too

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Apr 08 05:26AM -0500 On 4/7/18 10:47 PM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:   [ more nonsense deleted ]   You know you're wrong, or you wouldn't be playing "Whataboutism?"     -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Apr 08 04:33AM -0700 At this point as a white male of some moderate means, I am able to 'get' anywhere I choose to go. Becoming a paranoic idiot towards the vague goal of being 'left alone' is hardly worth the risk of spending some very ugly time being poked, prodded and questioned. Nor, in the real world, does it make any difference - other than upsetting the wife/kids/grandkids and pets. And, of course, such behavior would remove much of those means.   In this household, we have exactly that amount of privacy as we wish. Full Stop.   However, your plan has much merit - in executing it, you will divert 'the man' thereby, and so 'the man' will spend less time looking at the rest of us.   Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

jurb6006@gmail.com: Apr 08 05:10AM -0700 >"You know you're wrong, or you wouldn't be playing "Whataboutism?" "   Fuck you troll. Shout all you want, you are not worth even one more keystroke. I got a scroll button.

jurb6006@gmail.com: Apr 08 05:40AM -0700 >"However, your plan has much merit - in executing it, you will divert 'the man' thereby, and so 'the man' will spend less time looking at the rest of us. "   Enjoy - for now. Eventually they will get to everyone. This attitude of "Well if you have nothing to hide..." is NOT the idea. the idea is privacy. How about I had a camera in your bedroom and made note of any mistakes in your "technique" ? Any fetishes, kink, anything like that ? How about we all read letters between you and Mom about her peculiar medical condition, and of course we all need to know all the diseases you might have. The camera in your cable box will tell us which shows you actually watch and which ones you sleep to or just leave on while you do something else. And when you get up to go take a piss or make a sandwich generally so we know not to put the commercials on at that time. How about instead of the black box in your car that records the last few minutes of your moves, every move you make is watched and the cops do not have to stop you, the computer tells whether you were speeding and you must pay the ticket or lose your license, and we know you have the money and we don't care what it was for, even food for your kids.   You see, I am not a nut, but the fact is that if you give these fucks a femtometer they will take a parsec. The old boiling frog concept. I remember when they actually needed search warrants. It is none of their business what is in my pockets, my car or my home. If they have a reasonable suspicion go to a judge and get a warrant. But if you say that they will tear up your shit and leave you without a home of car, or whatever and you can't do a god damn thing about it.   This is not how we are supposed to live. And it does not protect us at all. Every time the government catches a would be terrorist it is either entrapment, or a stupid person with a proclivity they exploited, or one of their schills. Look it up. Every real attack on this country has succeeded. Look it up.   It is not a matter of security for us, it is a matter of security for them, and I have so much proof it would take you days to go through all of it. I could give you about 50 search strings and by the time you get through the CREDIBLE links they produce, every notion you ever had about the US will be shattered, just as mine were a long time ago. I know who and what these motherfuckers are and we are like a god damn crop to them to be harvested.   You want proof ? And really, don't ask if you are just going to say "Mmm hmmm" and not get on board with trying to change this place and its course from certain distopia. And this is not completely off topic because privacy is obviously one of the OP's concerns.   I like kinky sex. I don't really give a shit who knows it. Within reason of course, is some real weirdness out there. But I couldn't care less who knows. I am secure in whatever. Any job, if they find out I would say "So what ?". I can do that because I don't brown nose or play politics or any of that shit. Anyone I work for who cares, I will quit and then just like the last couple of employers, they can hire me back at more money. Fire me ? Who is your closest competitor, in case you have a question.   I can do that, but not everyone can. not only might they work for religious or judgmental idiots, or a church, or who knows, they might have their job partly because of politics. They might also have responsibilities like kids, and be in debt up to their ears. They don't enjoy the type of autonomy I did, and still do to some extent. What of them ? If they and their olady like to play with handcuffs sometimes it should cost them their well being ? It can.   Well we have to think about others. They want to be a queer, as long as they don't bother me I must support their right to do so no matter how repugnant it is to me. (and it is but it is their right) By the same token, they must support my right to burn a nice fat joint once in a while.   If we don't stand together we will surely fall apart.

jurb6006@gmail.com: Apr 08 05:43AM -0700 its course FOR certain distopia.... obviously   But I say it for some because, well you have seen why.

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Apr 08 07:45AM -0500 >> "You know you're wrong, or you wouldn't be playing "Whataboutism?""   > Fuck you troll. Shout all you want, you are not worth even one more keystroke. I got a scroll button.   Bwahahaha More proof you're an idiot. Take your Zoloft, sit down and shut the fuck up.   -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

Terry Schwartz <tschw10117@aol.com>: Apr 08 07:30AM -0700 Paranoia will destroy ya......

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Apr 08 09:56AM -0500 On 4/8/18 9:30 AM, Terry Schwartz wrote: > Paranoia will destroy ya......   Life is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid.     -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

bruce2bowser@gmail.com: Apr 07 09:44AM -0700 > I didn't buy them. It's family. I bought the LASER printer because of that after I went through a dozen inkjets or so. But they will not spend the money to print so rarely. they might end up either using mine or going to a retail place or library where they do that.   > >"Opening the cart: is there really no youtube vid showing a refill/recon on your cart? "   > I checked years ago and I couldn't find one. Maybe things have changed. Plus now I have the software to download it and not just from youtube.   A lazer printer for B/W printing. Only B/W printing. Sounds like a good option. I never figured that.

jurb6006@gmail.com: Apr 07 04:41PM -0700 >"A lazer printer for B/W printing. Only B/W printing."   Ihad one. An HP Laserjet 1100+. It was good, black and white, a tank of toner that was huge, it was fast and got the job done. This was a while back and used the parallel port, I had to have two of them, one ran that and the scanner because the Zerox color inkjet woulds not tolerate anything inline, like you used to hook up flatbed scanners. I had a Visioneer 6100B that was VERY good, I mean phenomenal performance. Seen nothing like it before or since.   I bought the Xerox because it had a lengthy cleaning cycle, four color and the print head not in the cartridges. thing made all kinds of noise. Go to print something it was zonk, zong zoook zonk, zonk zook zonk zonk. And so forth. That got irritating but it was supposedly cleaning the head. Well the thing clogged up anyway.   At least the ones with the heads integrated into the cartridge took care of that, but added to the cost of the cartridges. If you print alot you could refill them, but let it set and you need new ones. One day I was in a store and I saw a brand new printer for $ 5, a return. they didn't return the cartridges. After seeing the price of those it sat there I think until they threw it in the dumpster.   So up fill the landfills. The American way. That's why I bought the LASER. Ten years and nothing ever went wrong except the dirty mirror which was sue to that crazy lifestyle. (wake and bake etc.) And running out of toner. When it wouldn't work it must have been a software problem in the PC because it would still make copies, which it will do on its own. The only thing I can bitch about is the cost of the cartridges.   They include new rollers, do all (consumer/small office) LASER printer have that ? I am pretty sure the really big ones have a tank and you just fill it. Is there a lower end model like that ?

tabbypurr@gmail.com: Apr 07 08:17PM -0700 > At least the ones with the heads integrated into the cartridge took care of that, but added to the cost of the cartridges. If you print alot you could refill them, but let it set and you need new ones. One day I was in a store and I saw a brand new printer for $ 5, a return. they didn't return the cartridges. After seeing the price of those it sat there I think until they threw it in the dumpster.   > So up fill the landfills. The American way. That's why I bought the LASER. Ten years and nothing ever went wrong except the dirty mirror which was sue to that crazy lifestyle. (wake and bake etc.) And running out of toner. When it wouldn't work it must have been a software problem in the PC because it would still make copies, which it will do on its own. The only thing I can bitch about is the cost of the cartridges.   > They include new rollers, do all (consumer/small office) LASER printer have that ? I am pretty sure the really big ones have a tank and you just fill it. Is there a lower end model like that ?   If you want low end & long lived, look at HP laserjet 5 & earlier. Those things just go on & on & on. The 286 (I think it is) in them is a bit slow at getting it together but it works.     NT

jurb6006@gmail.com: Apr 07 08:44PM -0700 I had a really huge old one a long time ago. Two guys to carry it. And just a printer, not even a copier. When turned on, periodically the lights would dim a few times for about a second each. I figure it was the HV recharging the drum or whatever so it would be ever ready to print. Luckily I had a 50 foot cable so I could put it in the closet.

"Ron D." <ron.dozier@gmail.com>: Apr 07 06:50PM -0700 Two things:   #1 The lights on the connector. If at least one interface is auto-MDIX then crossover and straight cables will work, otherwise a straight cable is appropriate.   #2 There is "metric" which can be set. It's the "cost" of an interface. The lowest # is used first.

dansabrservices@yahoo.com: Apr 07 05:21PM -0700 Just got one of these and R48 is smoked. Anyone know what the value should be?   I'd really like to get a copy of the service manual or schematic, but if not, then at least the values for: R48, R57 and R63.   One of the output transistors was shorted and took out R48. The others appear to be discolored and I'd like to confirm the values so they can be replaced as well.   Thanks,   Dan

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