Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 11 updates in 3 topics

"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Oct 29 12:49PM -0700

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Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Oct 29 02:03PM -0700

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 12:49:37 -0700 (PDT), "pfjw@aol.com"
 
>https://www.wd40specialist.com/products/contact-cleaner?specialist=GoogleCleanserDegreaser&gclid=CjwKCAjw39reBRBJEiwAO1m0Ocrfm4KkPCJo8D7c0wLHeiHJ7PqQRs4pTnlrlMDl3hcp4AA5T-SPAxoC_r4QAvD_BwE
>Peter Wieck
>Melrose Park, PA
 
<https://www.wd40specialist.com/products/contact-cleaner>
<https://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/sds/specialist/wd-40-specialist-electrical-contact-cleaner-spray-us-ghs.pdf>
n-Hexane 110-54-3 20-30%
Isopropyl Alcohol (Isopropanol) 67-63-0 10-20%
1,1 Difluoroethane 75-37-6 40-60%
 
n-Hexand and isopropyl alcohol are solvents normally used to remove
grease and oil. n-Hexane is found in some foods, so the FDA has
declared it to be food safe. It's also found in gasoline, which is
not so safe. Little wonder it's listed as "fast drying" which should
be "fast evaporating".
 
1,1 Difluoroethane is the propellant gas.
 
It's basically an alcohol and solvent spray. No oxide remover means
you get to rub off any oxide coating by hand. Also, no tarnish
remover.
 
Cost $7 for 11 oz (400ml).
 
The other Jeff.
 
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Oct 29 06:40PM -0500

On 10/29/18 4:03 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> remover.
 
> Cost $7 for 11 oz (400ml).
 
> The other Jeff.
 
What a surprise, WD-40 makes yet another useless product.
 
No thanks, I'll stick with my De-Oxit, Fader Lube and Pro-Gold.
 
The other other Jeff.
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Oct 30 08:40AM -0700

I guess it takes a while for the leg to pull from Ranger to Melrose Park.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Oct 30 10:48AM -0500

> I guess it takes a while for the leg to pull from Ranger to Melrose Park.
 
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
 
Yank yank
 
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
"~misfit~" <shaun.at.pukekohe@gmail.com>: Oct 30 12:47PM +1300

Once upon a time on usenet gregz wrote:
>> Eric
 
> Some cam switches I think I just used alcohol. I never did, pbut
> thinking of lube or cleaner lube, I love CRC 2-26.
 
I'll second the 2-26. It's the aerosol can I'd least like to do without for
electronics work.
--
Shaun.
 
"Humans will have advanced a long, long way when religious belief has a cozy
little classification in the DSM*."
David Melville (in r.a.s.f1)
(*Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders)
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Oct 29 07:03PM -0700

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 12:47:40 +1300, "~misfit~"
>> thinking of lube or cleaner lube, I love CRC 2-26.
 
>I'll second the 2-26. It's the aerosol can I'd least like to do without for
>electronics work.
 
Ok, let's see what you get for your money with CRC 2-26:
<https://www.crcindustries.com/products/2-26-174-multi-purpose-precision-lubricant-16-fl-oz-02007.html>
<http://docs.crcindustries.com/msds/2007.pdf>
 
Chemical Name CAS No %
Distillates (petroleum), 64742-47-8 70 - 80
hydrotreated light
Light mineral oil 8042-47-5 10 - 20
n-Butyl stearate 123-95-5 3 - 5
Fatty Acids, C18-unsatd, 61788-89-4 1 - 3
Dimers
Petrolatum 8009-03-8 1 - 3
 
Nice job of obfuscating the actual contents, but the CAS numbers
should produce something helpful.
 
Looks like it's mostly light petroleum distillate, which means
kerosene (paraffin) or something similar. Kerosene can be both a
solvent and a lubricant.
 
Light mineral oil probably means light mineral oil or white paraffin
oil. Yet another lubricant.
 
n-Butyl stearate is a fatty acid based on zinc. It's food safe and
kinda waxy. My guess is that it acts as a coating over the contacts
to prevent further oxidation.
 
Fatty Acids, C18-unsatd, dimers. C18 would be oleic or possibly
linoleic acid. I would guess linoleic acid which is a quick drying
oil. It reacts with oxygen in the air to form a protective coating.
 
Petrolatum is another name for petroleum jelly or something similar.
No clue what it's doing in the mix.
 
 
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Oct 29 10:35PM -0700

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
 
 
> >I'll second the 2-26. It's the aerosol can I'd least like to do without for
> >electronics work.
 
> Ok, let's see what you get for your money with CRC 2-26:
 
https://www.crcindustries.com/products/2-26-174-multi-purpose-precision-lubricant-16-fl-oz-02007.html
 
http://docs.crcindustries.com/msds/2007.pdf
 

 
 
** OMG !!!
 
CRC 2-26 now comes in a big, plastic hand sprayer - like weed killer.
 
 
 
.... Phil
gregz <zekor@comcast.net>: Oct 30 07:49AM


> ** OMG !!!
 
> CRC 2-26 now comes in a big, plastic hand sprayer - like weed killer.
 
> .... Phil
 
My first purchase was large can 12 oz. ? home Depot for about $4, then they
just had smaller cans for MORE money.
 
Greg
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Oct 30 08:37AM -0700

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:03:50 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
(...)
>oil. It reacts with oxygen in the air to form a protective coating.
 
>Petrolatum is another name for petroleum jelly or something similar.
>No clue what it's doing in the mix.
 
I have a guess(tm) as to why the petroleum jelly. It evaporates, but
much slower than linoleic acid, which turns to goo as soon as it hits
the air. That might clog the nozzle of the pump type spray bottle.
Mixing with petroleum jelly should slow down the reaction so that it
turns to goo after it's sprayed on the parts that needs lubrication or
rust protection.
 
 
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Oct 29 10:34AM -0700

To elaborate just a bit on Phil's correct answer:
 
Hot to hot = doubled voltage.
Hot-to-ground = half-voltage.
 
https://img.bhs4.com/e7/1/e71df333b176823b913fdddc802d6fc749bce9a5_large.jpg
 
One side will be - to ground +.
One side will be + to ground -.
 
To see this in action - exactly this - look at the filament voltage schematic for a Dynaco PAS. As these are all dumb components, loading does not change anything - to the capacity of the source in any case.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
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