Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 10 updates in 3 topics

John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Oct 08 09:25AM -0700

> On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 6:58:59 PM UTC-5, John-Del wrote:
 
> > Sad to say, you're English is better than many native speakers...
 
> Yup. the mistakes are mistakes, not laziness.
 
You missed the sarkasm...
 

 
> > I've changed many hundreds of outputs over the years, and have never seen one "open".
 
> I have, but they are usually intermittent.
 
Never saw one, but I did qualify my statement by saying that anything is possible. I've lived long enough to know that odd things happen. The only thing close is that I found a horiz output in an RCA CTC120 (or thereabouts) that was open. That was the first and only high power device I ever saw open. I still don't thing Steff has an open output.
 
 
> > I can't speak for your particular HK, but most amplifiers (not all) use a common speaker protection relay so a shorted transistor on one side will prevent the speaker relay from engaging, rendering both sides mute. Your HK being an older vintage piece may be configured differently.
 
> Actually none at all, there is no protection, no relay, delay or even output current limiting.
 
Yikes. I remember a Hitachi receiver in the shop back in the early 80s that would destroy speakers whenever it wanted to. Play nice, short loud hum, speaker smoke. Turned out to be one of those weird Hitachi small signal transistors with the slanted top. Once every few days it would direct couple DC.
makolber@yahoo.com: Oct 08 09:27AM -0700

here is a tip,
 
wire an outlet box with a duplex outlet and a switch.
 
wire the outlet so the two outlets are in SERIES and in series with the switch..
 
Plug your unit into one outlet and plug a 100 Watt INCANDESCENT light into the other outlet.
 
Use the switch to turn on/off the power. This makes it easy to turn OFF all the power when you are working on the unit.
 
Also the bulb will limit the current if there is a fault. If the bulb glows brightly, there is still a fault and this will protect the new parts that you just put in.
 
mark
Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146@earthlink.net>: Oct 08 11:25AM -0400

In article <5e64a5b5-e112-4777-9e8e-efafd34e5839@googlegroups.com>,
peterwieck33@gmail.com says...
 
> Anyone who uses 60/40 solder for other than plumbing and direct chassis connections on vintage radios deserves exactly what they get. Full Stop.
 
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
 
You have it exectally backwards. I doubt if you will ever find any
37/73 solder. For two reasons. Number one is you now have a compound
that is 110 % mix. Sort of impossiable to do. I will allow you a typo
and say you ment 37/63. That would be a mix of 37% tin and 63% lead
going by the normal way of stating the tin content first.
 
The mix is 63 % tin and 37 % lead for the eutectic mix of solder. Over
the years much solder is sold as 60 % tin and 40 % lead. Close enough
for most electronics and very common.
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Oct 08 08:26AM -0700

On 2018/10/08 1:08 AM, John Larkin wrote:
 
>> It looks like an idiot tried to modify it. I have trouble imagining a
>> legitimate company letting something that hacked out for sale.
 
> It's Chinese.
 
Perhaps it was a return from a customer who had a problem, then tried to
fix it - botched it up, then sent it back to Amazon for a refund. The
seller didn't bother to test or it simply was repacked in the Amazon
warehouse for reshipment.
 
Much like the people who buy clothes for a party then return them
afterwards...
 
John :-#(#
tabbypurr@gmail.com: Oct 08 08:33AM -0700

On Monday, 8 October 2018 03:44:54 UTC+1, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
 
> The trick
> to soldering is to use decent equipment, a clean tinned tip, and the
> correct temperature.
 
I tried a new soldering iron long ago that had a sawn off nail as a tip. The heating wire was wound onto this tip over an insulating sheet, so it wasn't replaceable. It soldered perfectly. I expect it would not have handled large joints, but I wasn't doing any at the time.
 
A couple of years ago I tried soldering with nothing but a nail & a flame. Managed to produce good joints on pcbs, but the amount of time the nail stayed hot enough was very short, limiting what it could handle.
 
Like many things, if you know what you're doing you can get all sorts of crap to work if necessary.
 
 
NT
bitrex <user@example.net>: Oct 08 11:45AM -0400

On 10/08/2018 11:26 AM, John Robertson wrote:
 
 
> Much like the people who buy clothes for a party then return them
> afterwards...
 
> John :-#(#
 
I bought a guitar amp used many years ago where the previous owner had
either accidentally or deliberately left inside the speaker enclosure a
couple photos someone had taken of what appeared to be the previous
owner, a heavy-set jolly-looking African American man eating dinner in
his kitchen with what looked like a plate of ribs sitting on top of the amp.
 
Sadly that amp was stolen from me a number of years ago along with the
Polaroids that i'd left in it where I found them for some superstitious
reason. Back into the "material continuum"
Stephen Wolstenholme <steve@easynn.com>: Oct 08 04:57PM +0100

My first job when I left school at 15 was on a TV production line. All
the assembly work was done on a conveyer belt in about 30 minutes. I
was at the test stage. Sort of plug it in and see if it works. Any
faults were diagnosed by engineers and passed back to me. I had to
negotiate with about 50 women to get anything fixed. If I picked the
wrong women my survival that day was not guaranteed. It was a great
place to get a girlfriend!
 
--
http://www.npsnn.com
Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk>: Oct 08 05:00PM +0100

On 07/10/18 17:08, Cursitor Doom wrote:
 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128859641@N02/44247281105/in/dateposted-
> public/
 
> As you can see, the "world's worst" tag was no exaggeration!
 
If you want to learn how to do good soldering with "old"
and "unsophisticated" equipment, see the Pace Basic
Soldering Lessons.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL926EC0F1F93C1837
 
In contrast to most of the wittering talking heads and
videos of printed pages(!) found on yootuub,
those are excellent videos:
- short, because production and distribution of the
films was expensive
- to the point, because they are short
- good on theory of what needs to be done, and why
- good practical demos of what happens when you
get it right - and wrong
 
The only major flaw is that it is difficult to suppress
sniggering at the pronunciation of "solder".
 
Of course CD won't see this message, because he's blocked
me. His loss :)
"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Oct 08 09:26AM -0700

On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 11:25:38 AM UTC-4, Ralph Mowery wrote:
 
> The mix is 63 % tin and 37 % lead for the eutectic mix of solder. Over
> the years much solder is sold as 60 % tin and 40 % lead. Close enough
> for most electronics and very common.
 
Yep - sorry. 37/63 lead-to-tin. Early AM post, and not quite awake.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146@earthlink.net>: Oct 08 11:17AM -0400

I am building a simple full wave voltage doubler to power some external
circuits . I also want to use it at half voltage for lower voltage
circuits.
 
I am thinking that in this circuit I could take an output across just
one of the capacitors as it seems to be a halfwave circuit with added
components. Will this work or do need to put in a switch to switch out
the other capacitor and or rectifier?
 
 
 
 
https://www.daenotes.com/sites/default/files/article-images/full-wave-
voltage-doubler.png
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