Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 17 updates in 4 topics

Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>: Nov 26 11:55AM -0500


> Low potassium will cause cramps and shakes. Oranges, orange Juice, a banana, and so forth will address that issue nicely. V8 juice as well, tomato juice, more so.
 
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
 
Yah, all that trace mineral nutritional data is super dodgy. Some grad
student in the '50s measured three bananas from a plot fertilized with
potash, and surprise surprise all bananas became "a good source of
potassium" forever, no matter what soil conditions they're grown in.
 
Nutrition 'science' is largely a cargo cult.
 
Cheers
 
Phil Hobbs
"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Nov 26 11:01AM -0800

A banana is an edible fruit – botanically a berry – produced by several kinds of large herbaceous flowering plants in the genus Musa. In some countries, bananas used for cooking may be called "plantains", distinguishing them from dessert bananas.
 
Nutrition Facts
Bananas
Amount Per 1 medium (7" to 7-7/8" long) (118 g)
Calories 105
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 0.4 g 0%
Saturated fat 0.1 g 0%
Polyunsaturated fat 0.1 g
Monounsaturated fat 0 g
Cholesterol 0 mg 0%
Sodium 1 mg 0%
Potassium 422 mg 12%
Total Carbohydrate 27 g 9%
Dietary fiber 3.1 g 12%
Sugar 14 g
Protein 1.3 g 2%
Vitamin A 1% Vitamin C 17%
Calcium 0% Iron 1%
Vitamin D 0% Vitamin B-6 20%
Cobalamin 0% Magnesium 8%
 
Generally, the USDA does a pretty good nutritional analysis.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>: Nov 26 02:52PM -0500


> Generally, the USDA does a pretty good nutritional analysis.
 
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
 
Pretty good for nutrition facts, probably, but that's damning with faint
praise.
 
The fact that they're quoting potassium to three significant figures is
also not confidence-inspiring. That number is almost 1% of the dry
weight of the banana--if the soil isn't rich in potassium, where is it
going to come from?
 
Cheers
 
Phil Hobbs
 
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
 
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http://hobbs-eo.com
jurb6006@gmail.com: Nov 26 12:04PM -0800

>"Yah, all that trace mineral nutritional data is super dodgy. Some grad student in the '50s measured three bananas from a plot fertilized with potash, and surprise surprise all bananas became "a good source of potassium" forever, no matter what soil conditions they're grown in."
 
Not dodgy, just that it is so much more profitable when people are in the dark. The obscene medical costs in the US, WHO GETS THAT MONEY ?
 
Reputable scientific sources recognize 24 minerals as essential, that means needed, for human life. Potassium is one that we need alot of, and it is a good thing that ALL plants have alot of it. sodium, at needing about 600-700 mg. is another large requirement, if you don't get enough, other than fainting spells guess what you got - HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE. Fancy that.
 
It is not dodgy but the real information is hard to find. I have a database on the subject with those references at the bottom, the little numbers etc., and I checked out a few and they were legit. So there is no bullshit here. In fact even the USDA recognizes those same 24 as essential but they do not publicize it. You guess why, that instead of telling people what they really need they would rather push carbs and allow things that run up the heart disease and diabetes rates.
 
>"Nutrition 'science' is largely a cargo cult."
 
Well I am 58 and my health does nothing but improve and I eat a variety of foods, based on my theories of mineral nutrition. I drink bacon grease and use buckets of salt, eat fat and all that shit and my numbers would make a soy boy drool in his alfalfa sprouts. I mean BP like 115/60, cholesterol 138 at 1.89, (that's right one point eight nine) and about seven months after the accident I beat their stress test and didn't hit target heart rate with everything they could throw at me. I don't get sick, my back only hurts where there is a fracture at L1 from the fall, and I have again started to shadow box with hand weights, used to use 15s but now use 10s. The 15s got broken actually... And I still have all my teethe and hair. Very little gray. (I think it was tin (Sn) deficiency that turns hair gray as well as affects the hearing. My hearing DOES suck though but I used to listen at 136dB for a long time. (I shit you not) My eyesight always sucked.
 
Many years ago I lived on fast food, pizza n shit and my knees were so bad I couldn't walk DOWN a flight of steps without excruciating pain, I also had chronic back problems. Once I learned how to really eat right, and the USDA has no clue, I improved drastically. Even my roids are about gone. The only broken bones I have ever had, despite the fights, car wrecks and all that shit were ribs and fingers. I used to lay on the floor and have a full grown Man stand on my chest as I smoked a cigarette. I used to work out with a cigarette or a joint in my mouth hitting it, not breathing as "they" say and now my ECG shows a prolonged QT, I don't know if that caused it or not, but it is possible. With my BP, the pulse pressure is so high it's like I have the heart of a 19 year old, and up until recently when I got a hardon I could probably hang ten pound on it.
 
If I had done what "they" say,I would have had knee replacements, possibly even hips, fused vertebrae, root canal and all the other shit Men my age need.
 
But I don't.
 
If you want my database email me and I'll send you a ZIP file with 25 web pages in it all written in HTML1, no chance of a virus or anything, not one character that wouldn't show up properly in Notepad.
 
Then you can decide who to believe.
jurb6006@gmail.com: Nov 26 12:14PM -0800

> Cobalamin 0% < means very litle
> Magnesium 8% <important
 
> Generally, the USDA does a pretty good nutritional analysis.
 
Actually no they do not.
 
I got the balls to say that ? YES. You want the database ? Email me.
"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Nov 26 12:41PM -0800

Remember that crying wolf is useful only when the wolf exists,is a threat - and your audience is not tired of hearing about it.
 
Rodale died on-camera just after claiming he would live to be 100.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Nov 26 02:51PM -0600

On 11/26/18 2:04 PM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
Nothing of importance as usual.
 
Just the usual chest beating about how better he is than
anyone else.
 
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Nov 26 02:10PM -0800

On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:55:03 -0500, Phil Hobbs
 
>Nutrition 'science' is largely a cargo cult.
>Cheers
>Phil Hobbs
 
At first, I thought it has to be much better than that. I couldn't
find anything specific on the equipment or methods that the FDA uses
to populate the ubiquitous nutrition facts label except that its
derived from a database maintained by the US Dept of Agriculture:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrition_facts_label>
<https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/>
Only 928 different banana foods lists. Ugh. Selecting a raw banana
from the list, I find:
<https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/09040?fgcd=&manu=&format=&count=&max=25&offset=&sort=default&order=asc&qlookup=banana&ds=&qt=&qp=&qa=&qn=&q=&ing=>
containing Potassium between 290mg and 806mg per 100gram banana
depending on how it's pre-processed. Click on "full report" button
for a list of accepted values and long lists of data sources.
 
A similar discussion:
"How do they measure the nutritional data of food? How accurate are
the labels?"
<https://www.quora.com/How-do-they-measure-the-nutritional-data-of-food-How-accurate-are-the-labels>
<https://www.quora.com/How-are-the-nutrition-facts-on-food-labels-verified>
In the majority of cases, the producer of a food product
looks up each of the ingredients in a food database, and
determine the nutritional contribution of each ingredient
in the recipe based on it's weight. The USDA maintains
a large database of foods (raw and processed) for reference.
 
Perhaps you're correct. The USDA data might be garbage, assuming the
database was originally populated with inaccurate data, and that no
effort has been made to fix the problem. Maybe just add a few more
significant figures to the data so that it looks more accurate.
 
Banana:
<https://www.checkyourfood.com/ingredients/ingredient/62/banana>
Not high in potassium as popularly thought but still good
for your immune system and mood.
Oops. No wonder my ancient Geiger counter doesn't show much activity
from the K-40.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose>
 
 
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Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>: Nov 26 09:16PM -0500

On 11/26/18 5:10 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> Oops. No wonder my ancient Geiger counter doesn't show much activity
> from the K-40.
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose>
 
I'd be super glad to be corrected on those points--I'd far prefer to
have confidence in the data I'm presented with, especially since some of
the conclusions I'm invited to make have serious health repercussions.
 
Cheers
 
Phil Hobbs
 
 
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
 
http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
tabbypurr@gmail.com: Nov 27 12:12AM -0800

On Monday, 26 November 2018 16:55:11 UTC, Phil Hobbs wrote:
 
> Nutrition 'science' is largely a cargo cult.
 
> Cheers
 
> Phil Hobbs
 
Nutrition science covers the full quality range, as does any other medical topic. The ones to look at are metastudies. Nutritional healthcare worked wonders for me.
 
 
NT
jurb6006@gmail.com: Nov 27 07:14AM -0800

>"Rodale died on-camera just after claiming he would live to be 100. "
 
You mean Dr. R.J. Rodale ? Well he was wrong.
 
If he can be wrong so can others.
 
If this is the one I am thinking of he was into purity and no additives and all that shit, and one day he started getting dizzy spells. Supposedly found out that a neighboring farmer had used pesticides on his crops and the fumes or whatever were affecting him adversely.
 
Avoiding all the poisons without paying careful attention to what you DO need to eat is not going to work. And all the poisons are not avoidable so forget it - to a point. Still avoid GMOs but not because you might grow a third arm or some shit, but because GMOs are developed pretty much to survive more potent poisons, i.e. pesticides. That would specifically be glysophate or however they spell it. Those vegetables grown with that shit all over the are porous which means it will soak in and there is no way to wash it off. It is a known carcinogen. In fact that was found a long time ago but Monsanto had the research quashed. The current class action lawsuit serves them right and I hope they lose big, motherfuckers don't care if they kill us to make money. That pesticide also wrecks the soil for non GMO crops. The residue will kill anything not GMOed to survive it.
 
If you are healthy, and that means like up to 70 trace minerals in the proper proportion, you can withstand many additives n shit, but not Monsanto's poison.
4ctestsystems@gmail.com: Nov 27 06:51AM -0800

Well, it will, but sometimes it takes a few minutes. I can't tell if it needs to warm up . Does anyone know what I can check in it?
Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com>: Nov 27 02:33PM +1100

On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 22:45:48 +1100, "Phil Allison"
 
> Wired into the back of a regular AC plug.
 
>... Phil
 
Does this apply to TV interference too? My TV
works only on some channels and the rest show "no
signal" or severe pixellation. Also, the trouble
is intermittent. What can I do? Is there some
sort of filter to fix it?
Look165 <look165@numericable.fr>: Nov 27 10:17AM +0100

I thought AM was released on the prehistoric era !
 
Anyway, perturbations might come from AC mains, solar eruption,
neighborhood electric signals, HV lines, AC generator...
 
To be sure, try to move this AM receiver somewhere else (a friend ?)
 
Don't forget to check the antenna and/or the orientation of the receiver.
 
Sometimes, a single 1m wire hanging downward is a good antenna.
 
Another experiment is to move the receiver near the TV cable
disconnected fromthe TV set.
 
Since it is an old apparatus, it might be a misalignment of the
receiving part and/or IF section.
 
A simple cause can also be the loudspeaker (visual check is generally
enough).
 
If you are lucky, there can be the electric diagram inside.
 
Peter Jason a écrit :
John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Nov 27 06:17AM -0800

On Monday, November 26, 2018 at 10:33:14 PM UTC-5, Peter Jason wrote:
> signal" or severe pixellation. Also, the trouble
> is intermittent. What can I do? Is there some
> sort of filter to fix it?
 
 
 
You don't need a "filter", you need to improve your signal to noise ratio. You need a larger antenna, raise the elevation of the antenna, amplification, or moving nearer to the TV transmitter..
Look165 <look165@numericable.fr>: Nov 27 03:26PM +0100

No, no relation between AM and TV
 
For TV check the antenna.
 
As I said, try it somewhere else.
 
For the AM receiver, it must be a failure of the AM set (Receiver and
IF section) ; with time (48 years) some inductanes change their value
and condensators too.
 
John-Del a écrit :
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <paul@hovnanian.com>: Nov 26 08:50PM -0800

I've done a couple of them. As long as there is no need to repair or replace
the cone or detach it from the coil or spider (I think it's called), I
didn't have to shim the coil. The spider held it centered well enough that
as long as no lateral load was placed on the cone during the foam glue
setup, the air gap remained OK.
 
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