Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 3 topics

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Nov 27 04:35PM -0800

On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 21:16:31 -0500, Phil Hobbs
>the conclusions I'm invited to make have serious health repercussions.
>Cheers
>Phil Hobbs
 
Well, if I can't convince you that the USDA Food Composition Database
is reasonably accurate by the number of decimal places, voluminous
source data, and the large number of citations, perhaps a "what-if"
sanity check might be helpful. That's what I do when an assertion or
conclusion doesn't quite ring true. I ask myself:
If the USDA database was populated in the 1950's by slave
labor (grad students) and never verified, what might I
also expect to be true or to happen?
 
1. The data would conflict by food databases from other countries.
For example, Australia:
<http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/science/monitoringnutrients/ausnut/ausnutdatafiles/Pages/foodnutrient.aspx>
Line number 2653 for
"Banana, cavendish, peeled, raw"
shows 346mg potassium, which is quite close to the USDA nominal figure
of 358mg per 100grams. I haven't checked any other databases, but I
can look around for discrepancies if necessary.
 
2. Food and supplement producers that rely on potency claims to sell
their products would have an interest in stabilizing the official
figures so that their products would always be higher potency than
typical. A common variation of this need for stability is the
declared weight of the contents of packaged food. The weight can be
greater, but never less than the stated value (unless the listed item
is deemed undesirable). Same with nutritional values.
 
3. The nutritional values listed have been used in thousands of
health and medical experiments since the database was corrected. If
there were any errors, experiments based on the data would also show
discrepancies or at least large variations in results which would
attract suspicion. I haven't seen any of that in the press.
 
Enough for now.
 
 
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jurb6006@gmail.com: Nov 28 01:06AM -0800

>"Enough for now."
 
Not quite.
 
I do not question their numerical accuracy, and in fact it really isn't all that critical nor could it be.
 
Vitamins are irrelevant, minerals are what you need. Their numerical accuracy means nothing, like the number of grains of rice per capita in Zimbabwe. (probably among the lowest in the world lol)
 
I would like to see the figures on all 24 of the minerals recognized as essential by every health organization in the world not run by hyenas. And being essential, and recognized as such, how come they are not out spreading information about that ?
 
Energy, ba. Fiber, I shit just fine. What's next, ash like in fish food ? Gimme the numbers on the minerals dammit.
 
Database for the email. Draw your own conclusions. Don't say I didn't offer.
 
Look at;
 
https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/45287885?fgcd=&manu=&format=Full&count=&max=25&offset=&sort=default&order=asc&qlookup=bone+broth&ds=&qt=&qp=&qa=&qn=&q=&ing=
 
TWENTY FOUR recognized as ESSENTIAL. Count how many they give. And it is impossible for the ones not mentioned to be of insignificant quantity because the livestock is given mineral (not vitamin)supplements. They require approximately the same 24 we do, and they are there but not reported.
 
Here they give more;
 
https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/12078
 
Why ? Beef bone broth MUST have more different minerals in it than ANY plant for the same reason we need them.Plants do not move, breathe, think, talk, any of that shit. they are fertilized with what they need,nit what we need. The producers are paid by the pound,not the content. Why pay like 50 times as much on enriching the soil for ZERO PROFIT. Most people don't know shit about essential minerals so it is of absolutely no advertising value. With that and extremely higher costs of operation, would YOU ? Would YOU care enough about your fellow Man to go broke giving them good foods in the market with zero recognition for it, and like I said, go broke. Your kids starve so total strangers are more healthy ?
 
That is not the American way, hell that is not the anything way.
Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com>: Nov 27 09:01PM

On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 06:51:12 -0800, 4ctestsystems wrote:
 
> Well, it will, but sometimes it takes a few minutes. I can't tell if it
> needs to warm up . Does anyone know what I can check in it?
 
There should be a little symbol come on for the oven. Is that showing?
 
 
 
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Terry Schwartz <tschw10117@aol.com>: Nov 27 09:34AM -0800

Once again, replying to a 5+ year old post.
dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt): Nov 27 10:11AM -0800

In article <6kepvd5m3sf4ijcd8ptecr3c2aaunhcm6h@4ax.com>,
Peter Jason <mmmm> wrote:
 
>signal" or severe pixellation. Also, the trouble
>is intermittent. What can I do? Is there some
>sort of filter to fix it?
 
The first question I would ask is, "What's your antenna setup?"
 
For TV, and for FM radio, the most important aspect to getting good
signal quality is having a good antenna arrangement - a proper antenna
mounted where it can "see" the transmitters with a minimum of
interfering solid matter between the two.
 
Indoor antennas - "rabbit ears", floppy dipoles, and small wall-mount
panel antennas - are usually suitable only for "strong signal" areas
fairly close to the transmitters. Modern buildings are often quite
effective shields against RF transmission - they contain materials
which either absorb or reflect RF - steel beams, wire mesh in stucco
walls, metallized plastic insulation and vapor barriers, and so
forth. Signals from distant stations don't stand a chance... they're
weakened, and also degraded by multipath (multiple RF paths of
different lengths, caused by signal reflections, which result in
frequency-selective signal reinforcement and cancellation).
 
The results of all of this are bad signals. Analog TV suffers from
noise and "ghosts". FM suffers from noise and distortion. Digital TV
suffers from pixellation, freezing, and "no signal found" problems.
 
These problems can all be made worse by local interference, radiated
or conducted. They're also made worse by short-term multipath -
e.g. signal reflections from airplanes flying within the
line-of-sight, or even trucks driving by on the road outside. On FM
you can hear a "picket fencing" effect when this happens, on analog TV
you see moving "ghosts", and on digital TV you see pixellation and
freezing. Digital TV receivers do have the ability to detect and
cancel out some multipath reflections, but dealing with rapidly
changing reflections is a "hard problem" for them and they often don't
adapt fast enough.
 
Filters at the receiving end (TV, FM radio) won't help, except in the
case where the TV is picking up _conducted_ RF interference through
the power line. Can't hurt to try, but don't expect miracles.
 
Filters at the sources of interference (noisy motors, PC power
supplies, LED lights, light dimmers) may help somewhat. However, even
if you completely filter all local noise sources, there can still be
plenty of noise from outside the house/apartment - neighbors'
equipment, etc.
 
The real "fix" is to improve the quality of the incoming RF
signal... you want a strong signal with minimal multipath. This often
requires an outdoor antenna - one mounted up "in the clear" (e.g. on a
roof mast). If possible, install a directional antenna which is aimed
in the direction of the desired transmitter - this both boosts the
amount of "good" signal (thanks to the antenna's gain) and also
reduces the amount of "bad" signal (multipath reflections coming in
from other directions, and random interference from sources in the
area). If necessary, install a remote-controlled antenna rotator, or
an electronically-rotatable antenna (if your TV has the ability to
control one of these - most do not, I believe).
 
If you're getting your over-the-air TV signal via a cable-TV feed, and
the quality is still poor, then check your coax connections, and/or
complain to the cable company.
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