Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 5 topics

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Mar 26 03:56PM -0500

> to save $100-400, but some do. And sometimes getting an oven
> that fits a certain space can be tricky, repairing is then
> much quicker.
 
I haven't paid more than $30 for a microwave oven in the past
20 years. And typically between $15-20 at the Good Will.
 
The two failures I've had were the processor based control from
The first one just quit working. In retrospect it might have
just been something loose from moving to Texas. The other was
a "twist the knob" timer. The knob fell apart. I found a new,
not matching, knob and found out why the old one broke. The
mechanical timer seized up.
 
One of the microwaves I bought, I paid $10 for and rewound the
transformer to turn it into a spot welder.
 
But, hey, if you want to spend $100-400 on a microwave oven, be
my guest.
 
 
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
tabbypurr@gmail.com: Mar 26 02:55PM -0700

On Tuesday, 26 March 2019 20:56:32 UTC, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
> transformer to turn it into a spot welder.
 
> But, hey, if you want to spend $100-400 on a microwave oven, be
> my guest.
 
Combi cookers are in that price range, and hard to find used.
 
 
NT
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Mar 26 05:11PM -0500

>> my guest.
 
> Combi cookers are in that price range, and hard to find used.
 
> NT
 
A cheap microwave for under $30 used.
And a new toaster oven for under $30.
 
Any questions?
 
 
 
--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Mar 26 06:38PM -0700

three_jeeps wrote:
 
 
> > NT
 
> Care to elaborate on the errors?
 
** The is nothing wrong with the information in the link.
 
There is EVERYTHING wrong with NT's lunatic ideas.
 
The strong and very correct warning out the risk of going inside a microwave oven:
 
" Careless troubleshooting of a microwave oven can result in death or worse. Experienced technicians have met their maker as a result of a momentary lapse of judgement while testing an oven with the cover removed. Microwave ovens are without a doubt, the most deadly type of consumer electronic equipment in wide spread use. "
 
 
NT is a dangerous, raving nut case who needs to be driven off usenet.
 
 
 
..... Phil
Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com>: Mar 26 09:05PM

In article <gfvh9pFoiceU1@mid.individual.net>, usenet@andyburns.uk
says...
 
> > I can't find a serial number
 
> Open a powershell window and type (or paste) in the following command
 
> get-ciminstance win32_bios | format-list serialnumber
 
On a device that does not power up? If he could do that there would not
be a problem in the 1st place. Catch 22?
 
Mike.
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Mar 26 02:09PM -0700

On 2019/03/26 11:42 a.m., bitrex wrote:
 
>> John
 
> Not this one, apparently. 'supposed to be why I make an account with
> them to order and _they_ keep a damn database for! :(
 
You need to think proactively. The company gains nothing other than
better customer relations if they save all the invoices, you have a
chance of getting restitution if you do.
 
Who should be better motivated to retain records?
 
John
bitrex <user@example.net>: Mar 26 06:31PM -0400

On 3/26/19 5:05 PM, Mike Coon wrote:
 
> On a device that does not power up? If he could do that there would not
> be a problem in the 1st place. Catch 22?
 
> Mike.
 
The other Lenovo Ideapad I have, the 110, came broken from the factory
but not because it didn't power up, just that it came stock with a
500gig 5400 RPM hard drive, 2 gigs of (soldered-in) DDR3 RAM, a Celeron
processor, and Windows 10.
 
Windows 10 is unusable on a PC with those specs; right-clicking takes
about 20 seconds of the HDD thrashing furiously and then the right-click
menu comes up. That's on a fresh from the box install of 10.
 
Pull the 5400 RPM drive, slip in a SSD and install Xubuntu on it and it
transforms into a really snappy lightweight netbook though
bitrex <user@example.net>: Mar 26 02:22PM -0400

I have a Lenovo Ideapad 520 less than a year old, bought directly
off their web site on sale last April. It's failed, no power up. Trying
to get a warranty service on it but unfortunately I can't find a serial
number on the mfer anywhere. Usually it's on a sticker or placard on the
bottom, I have another Lenovo lappy that's like that but this one got
nothing. Just a Windows hologram-sticker and a FCC wireless module
sticker. Perhaps it fell off. Usually they're on a small placard that's
hard to remove accidentally, tho.
 
Their online system has no record of my order, all I have at this point
is a credit card statement showing the date of purchase and payment.
Their support department says that's no good, without a serial number
I've got nothing. Might it be somewhere inside? Looks like it's supposed
to be an 8 digit serial.
 
Uneasy feeling that the one I bought perhaps simply never had one. On
sale...
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Mar 26 11:31AM -0700

On 2019/03/26 11:22 a.m., bitrex wrote:
> to be an 8 digit serial.
 
> Uneasy feeling that the one I bought perhaps simply never had one. On
> sale...
 
Don't you save email receipts?
 
That would be an argument against just handling email by one's phone and
not backing up on a desktop. I use POP for that reason, and I don't
automatically delete email from the server for a week in case the
computer goes wonky.
 
Consider that clouds go away. Amazon, Fujitsu, and other clouds have all
lost data...local backup is best.
 
John
bitrex <user@example.net>: Mar 26 02:42PM -0400

On 3/26/19 2:31 PM, John Robertson wrote:
 
> Consider that clouds go away. Amazon, Fujitsu, and other clouds have all
> lost data...local backup is best.
 
> John
 
Not this one, apparently. 'supposed to be why I make an account with
them to order and _they_ keep a damn database for! :(
bitrex <user@example.net>: Mar 26 02:44PM -0400

On 3/26/19 2:42 PM, bitrex wrote:
 
>> John
 
> Not this one, apparently. 'supposed to be why I make an account with
> them to order and _they_ keep a damn database for! :(
 
I'm trying their forums to see if anyone there got some answers, at
least they do seem to be frequented by tech support.
Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid>: Mar 26 06:56PM

On 26/03/2019 18:22, bitrex wrote:
> to be an 8 digit serial.
 
> Uneasy feeling that the one I bought perhaps simply never had one. On
> sale...
 
Personally drop it in to your local Lenovo centre?
 
https://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/solutions/ht104448
 
https://lenovo.secure.force.com/bplocator/
 
--
Adrian C
bitrex <user@example.net>: Mar 26 03:02PM -0400

On 3/26/19 2:56 PM, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
 
> Personally drop it in to your local Lenovo centre?
 
> https://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/solutions/ht104448
 
> https://lenovo.secure.force.com/bplocator/
 
Thanks that might be the best option at this point. Nearest location is
only 35 miles away. Sigh...
bitrex <user@example.net>: Mar 26 03:03PM -0400

On 3/26/19 2:59 PM, KenW wrote:
> My HP laptop has the serial # on the box not on the laptop.
 
It might have been there but if I saved the cardboard boxes for
everything I've bought I'd have no room in my one bedroom condo for the
things, anymore. :(
bitrex <user@example.net>: Mar 26 03:06PM -0400

On 3/26/19 2:59 PM, KenW wrote:
> My HP laptop has the serial # on the box not on the laptop.
 
I have a cheaper Lenovo that has a very nice serial number placard right
on the bottom, why they didn't bother to do that with a laptop that
costs three times more I couldn't tell ya.
xBased <f6ceedb9c75b52f7fcc0a55cf0cfbf5d_1133@example.com>: Mar 26 11:37PM

responding to
http://www.electrondepot.com/repair/leader-lbo-520a-oscilloscope-176993-.htm ,
xBased wrote:
Did u had any luck repairing? I have the same oscilloscope with the exact SAME
problem. :(
KenW <ken1943@invalid.net>: Mar 26 12:59PM -0600

My HP laptop has the serial # on the box not on the laptop.
David Farber <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Mar 26 09:52AM -0700

On 3/25/2019 3:36 PM, KenW wrote:
> I found a free program Neutron Time Set that I run from startup that
> sets the time for me.
 
> KenW
 
Hi Ken,
 
Thanks for the workaround idea. I may have to resort to using it!
 
--
David Farber
Los Osos, CA
David Farber <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Mar 26 09:55AM -0700

On 3/26/2019 4:44 AM, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
>  [2] https://www.mouser.com/pdfdocs/6chipsetc200chipsetdatasheet.pdf
 
> Clearing CMOS is apparently done by a jumper (G2101) RTCRST# (page 21 of
> the schematic [1]. Power off then momentary short (p.163 of [2])
 
Hi Adrian,
 
That schematic and datasheet will be very helpful. Thanks!
 
--
David Farber
Los Osos, CA
David Farber <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Mar 26 10:12AM -0700

On 3/26/2019 8:58 AM, John Robertson wrote:
> that Vbb is getting to the timekeeper - and someone kindly posted a ink
> to the schematics so the OP can check that out now more easily.
 
> John :-#)#
 
Hi John,
 
I was testing the battery voltage where the battery holder's terminals
are soldered to the board.
 
Now that I have the schematic, it should be fairly simple (famous last
words, right?) to track down the fault.
 
Thanks for your reply.
 
--
David Farber
Los Osos, CA
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Mar 26 10:15AM -0700

On 2019/03/26 10:12 a.m., David Farber wrote:
 
> --
> David Farber
> Los Osos, CA
 
Nothing better than fixing stuff IMHO.
 
We generate enough garbage that keeping something going that is still
useful is worth the effort, puls the brain cells need exercise!
 
John ;-#)#
 
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David Farber <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Mar 26 02:21PM -0700

On 3/26/2019 10:15 AM, John Robertson wrote:
 
> We generate enough garbage that keeping something going that is still
> useful is worth the effort, puls the brain cells need exercise!
 
> John ;-#)#
 
I cosign on salvaging electronics and exercising the brain cells.
 
By the way, how is it the computer keeps perfect time once the time is
set and the power remains on? Shouldn't the time shown in the BIOS setup
screen begin to advance too once it's powered on?
 
--
David Farber
Los Osos, CA
Look165 <look165@numericable.fr>: Mar 26 10:54PM +0100

BIOS settings are kept by the battery, not only time and date.
IF time slips or BSOD, it means the battery is dead or holder.
If not, Flash EEPROM is dying.
Anyway, if your PC can work, try HW32INFO.
 
David Farber a écrit le 25/03/2019 à 18:28 :
David Farber <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Mar 26 03:37PM -0700

On 3/26/2019 2:54 PM, Look165 wrote:
> IF time slips or BSOD, it means the battery is dead or holder.
> If not, Flash EEPROM is dying.
> Anyway, if your PC can work, try HW32INFO.
 
The computer does not BSOD since I used a restore point to correct that
issue. The battery is not dead. I measured it mounted in the holder at
the holder's terminals. The PC works fine except for the clock. Is there
some particular piece of information you want me to find with HW32info?
 
Thanks for your reply.
 
--
David Farber
Los Osos, CA
Adrian Caspersz <email@here.invalid>: Mar 26 06:43PM

On 26/03/2019 17:15, John Robertson wrote:
 
> Nothing better than fixing stuff IMHO.
 
> We generate enough garbage that keeping something going that is still
> useful is worth the effort, puls the brain cells need exercise!
 
Quite :)
 
The reason why I pipped in, was that I was researching a real time clock
/ NVRAM fix to a 27-year old Sun X terminal [1], and came across a
description of a 'kick start' procedure to initialise the installation a
new clock module (a 28pin DIL chip like the popular DALLAS type).
However, I just needed a new battery fitted to my old one, and set about
mine with a hacksaw like this ...
 
http://www.glitchwrks.com/2017/08/01/gw-48t02-1
 
[1] For the hell of it, and a break from coding with much faster RPi
things, I've been wandering down retro memory lane putting life back
into an old discarded Sun Sparc Classic X. (removing the X terminal
nature of the beast and installing a 1GB SCSI HDD, 72-pin parity SIMM,
NetBSD 8.0 etc).
 
It doesn't really have a purpose (unit lacks USB, CPU runs at 50MHz) but
the retro experience has reignited some brain cells - so it's kind of
therapeutic. In twenty-thirty years time, I'll probably have the same
fun with old Core2Duo driven things like what I am using here.
 
For a healthy mind, I heartily recommend this time travelling retro
hobby. Sure beats sudoku and eating lots of fish ...
 
--
Adrian C
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