Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 15 updates in 6 topics

Klay Anderson <mailserver.cctv@gmail.com>: May 07 07:51AM -0700

So in my attempt to update the male Edison on my USA Subaru Level 1 car charger, I discovered two things. The encapsulating rubber is the worst pain to remove and there are five wires not just three. In addition to the usual line, neutral, and earth, there are pink and purple wires. Just hooking up the 3 power leads the charger works fine but the LEDs on the charger flash a lot and I've not a guide to what they all mean. I'm thinking that the "Jet" brand plug might be a GFCI but it is so sealed and sonically welded that even if I opened it up, it's probably potted inside. Does anyone have experience or psychic insight to the pink and purple connections; possibly a replacement plug source? Photo <shorturl.at/azCFU> Thank you.
Klay Anderson <mailserver.cctv@gmail.com>: May 07 07:46AM -0700

So in my attempt to update the male Edison on my USA Subaru Level 1 car charger, I discovered two things. The encapsulating rubber is a pain to remove and there are five wires not just three. In addition to the usual line, neutral, and earth, there are pink and purple wires. Just hooking up the 3 power leads the charger works fine but the LEDs on the charger flash a lot and I've not a guide to what they all mean. I'm thinking that the "Jet" brand plug might be a GFCI but it is so sealed and sonically welded that even if I opened it up, it's probably potted inside. Does anyone have experience or psychic insight to the connections? Photo <https://shorturl.me/pJniOhp> Thank you.
John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: May 06 11:45AM -0700

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 12:23:11 AM UTC-4, Off His Meds Phil Allison wrote:
 
> This Loon is straight from the Loonie bin.
 
> ..... Phil
 
There's a character in a TV show (Big Bang Theory) that you remind me of. Like that character (Sheldon), you also seem to have a problem with sarcasm or hyperbole unless it's accompanied by a smiley face emoji.
"pfjw@aol.com" <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: May 06 12:18PM -0700

You are far too kind!
John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: May 06 12:37PM -0700

> You are far too kind!
 
I'm just a sweetheart down deep.
 
You would have thought that OHM (off his meds) Phil would have caught on to Jeff's sarcasm when Jeff summed up the evaluation of the resistor's tight value readings and temperature torture resistance with "I think it passed" - the quotes being Jeff's...
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: May 07 03:09AM -0700

John-Del wrote:
 
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** Lemme tell ya somethin' - John.
 
For round about 15 years now, you have been misrepresenting and posting false interpretations of my posts.
 
But I am a normally a patient person.
 
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> me of. Like that character (Sheldon), you also seem to have a
> problem with sarcasm or hyperbole unless it's accompanied by
> a smiley face emoji.
 
 
** No I don't.
 
By his own words, Jeff was *stoned* when he wrote that pile of verbal diarrhoea and so I outed him for it - just in case anyone took the absurd crap it contained the least bit seriously.
 
But my simple message was 100% wasted on a Septic, POS fucking asshole like you. Cos you are in love with every bit of your own shit.
 
Bet you keep your turds in a cupboard too or maybe the fridge, along with your icecream.
 
The one with similarity to "Sheldon" is YOU - but he is not a malicious cunt like you are.
 
 
BTW:
 
"pf" is one of the smelliest turds on earth.
 
So you two make great company.
 
 
 
 
..... Phil
Jeff Urban <jurb6006@gmail.com>: May 07 04:28AM -0700

>Any error is in your METER !!!
 
No, it is not. This is compared to two other good meters, one a Fluke 8842, and one of them was calibrated to NIST a couple of years ago.
 
No other resistors on near that range read 0.1% high.
 
But you grab on to anything to dig on someone so, so be it.
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: May 07 05:22AM -0700

Jeff Urban is a Fucking Doper !!
 
================================
 
> >Any error is in your METER !!!
 
 
** That a pretty drastic bit of snipping you just did ?
 
All context removed to protect the guilty ??.
 
 
> No, it is not.
 
 
** Errr - bullshit.
 
> This is compared to two other good meters, one a Fluke 8842,
> and one of them was calibrated to NIST a couple of years ago.
 
** Why so coy about the details of each meter?
 
Why no mention of any of this before ??
 
I smell a big, fat rat.
 

> No other resistors on near that range read 0.1% high.
 
** Really?
 
So *every* resistor you have is several times better than 0.1% accurate ?
 
Tell me ?
 
Do you believe your own bullshit or produce it purely for public
consumption ?

Word of advice:

Stop posting absurd crap when you are off your head.
 
Stop posting absurd crap when you are straight too.
 
Make a nice change....
 
Lay of the fucking dope.
 
 
.... Phil
John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: May 07 07:02AM -0700

On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 6:09:27 AM UTC-4, Phil OHM Allison wrote:
 
 
> Bet you keep your turds in a cupboard too or maybe the fridge, along with your icecream.
 
LOL! You did NOT go there!! The guy who has a cockroach infestation in his trailer wants to bring up cleanliness?
 
**"I bought one of the above (Sony CDP101) immediately they appeared on sale in Sydney -.... Yesterday, I popped a CD in the drawer and it spat it back - so I tried a couple more with the same result. Fearing the worst, I opened the machine and found some cockroach droppings in the drawer and near the laser assembly."
 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/sci.electronics.repair/YcNfjgMv6zw%5B1-25%5D
 
Yes Phil, I do indeed keep ice cream in my freezer. My wife and I will indulge once a week or so. We DON'T however keep rotting cans of beans, soup, or SPAM in our sinks or under our bed, so we don't have roaches in our house.
 
Try spraying WD-40 around your trailer: I hear roaches don't care for it.
 
Oh, and Peter is a gentleman. I'm sure no one would use that term in the same sentence with your name, unless of course it's to say that you aren't..
jjhudak4@gmail.com: May 06 11:45AM -0700

> > J
 
> Thanks to all that posted. I followed up on all the suggestions. For my Fluke meters and my intended use, the 8043s seemed to be the best fit. Also ordered some additional probe tips.
> J
 
As a follow-up: Just received the test lead/probe kit from Probemaster...at first blush, they are *GREAT* nice sharp points, 1000V isolation, and the threads for the screw-on attachements (~5 turns) seem sturdy. the attachments seat and snug-up well. Fit and finish are excellent with my Fluke meters.
Just what I was looking for.
Thanks again.
J
Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com>: May 07 03:39AM

> Just what I was looking for.
> Thanks again.
> J
 
how flexible are the leads? Are they more rubbery/silicone-like or more
like soft PVC?
 
The sample size is two, but I noticed my ~5 year old Fluke probes seems
more flexible than the newer ones. Part numbers are the same.
John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: May 06 11:39AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 at 8:06:01 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
 
> > Thanks again!
 
> How about these cans?
 
> https://catalog.zerocases.com/item/deep-drawn-round-cans-covers/round-deep-drawn-cans/zmc-137
 
Looks like 2.1" is the highest they get. Not a lot of room for multi section requirements, and they're probably expensive unless you order 1K or more.
 
I kind of like my idea of using schedule 40 PVC. Cut to any height, easy to shape or round off the edges, spray with flat gray or dark silver, hot glue over new caps - done. Cheap and easy.
Bob Engelhardt <BobEngelhardt@comcast.net>: May 06 07:07PM -0400

On 5/6/2020 2:39 PM, John-Del wrote:
...
> I kind of like my idea of using schedule 40 PVC. ...
 
I would lighter weight PVC - schedule 40 is kinda clunky in this use.
PVC sink tail pieces (1-1/4 or 1-1/2").
John-Del <ohger1s@gmail.com>: May 06 07:10PM -0700

On Wednesday, May 6, 2020 at 7:07:34 PM UTC-4, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
> > I kind of like my idea of using schedule 40 PVC. ...
 
> I would lighter weight PVC - schedule 40 is kinda clunky in this use.
> PVC sink tail pieces (1-1/4 or 1-1/2").
 
 
Even better.
dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt): May 06 12:23PM -0700

In article <r8ubdk$4og$1@reader2.panix.com>,
 
>I've considered the discs may have deteriorated because they are shrink
>wrapped and both the discs and wrap might emit fumes.
 
That's possible, I suppose. From what I recall, the cyanine dyes have
a shorter shelf live, in general, than the phthalocyanine dyes.
Manufacturing quality and quality control also make a big difference.
 
>the disc in explorer like I am reading it and then go into writing.
 
>I may just have to give up.
>It just seems like a waste to write a big CD for small amounts of data.
 
A maxim I learned many years ago - "cheap is often very expensive".
 
I don't burn all that many CDs these days, but I decided quite a while
back that buying lower-tier CD-R blanks was a false economy... waste
of time, waste of discs, and the risk that I would be unable to read
the discs reliably if I needed them.
 
Also, I think the "mini" CD-R blanks were treated more as a novelty
than as a serious data-storage solution. I don't recall seeing any
which were made by manufacturers I was confident of.
 
When I was buying CD-R blanks frequently, I tried to stick with the
Taiyo Yuden discs from Japan. They sold their business and production
to JVC, who ran it for a few years. Eventually JVC decided to get out
of the business, and they sold the technology to CMC.
 
CMC now makes a line of "Powered by TY" CD-R blanks using the Taiyo
Yuden process. You might want to try picking up a pack (I've dealt
successfully with Media Supply) and see how their compatibility and
readability turns out to be with your equipment.
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