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Jimmie <Jimmie@Jimmie.COM>: Mar 25 09:15AM -0700 Suggestions on proper coating to use on Outdoor equipment steel cabinet corrosion. Vertical surfaces only. I replaced the top with polycarbonate material.   I need to stop corrosion and protect the surface from further corrosion.   It currently has a powder coat finish that has gone bad after 20 years.

Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net>: Mar 24 12:47PM -0400 In article <494d4ddc-4d84-4291-ba6b-6a2049fa4dc4n@googlegroups.com>, pallison49@gmail.com says...   > ** Ain't it more likely to be a user safety issue ?   > 50 watts at 50 ohms = 50V rms .   Just thought of one more issue. Some antennas have capacitors in them and they will have a limit of voltage and current .   Some antennas can heat up enough (usually the coils) to melt out the plastic parts seperating the elements.   Anyway it is usually the components that make up the antenna that determin how much power they will withstand.   Too much power and you either get a voltage breakdown of the components or a heat melt down of the components, or a combination of both.

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Mar 24 02:41PM -0700 Ralph Mowery wrote: ================== > and they will have a limit of voltage and current .   > Some antennas can heat up enough (usually the coils) to melt out the > plastic parts seperating the elements.   ** The makers have experience with such failures and set a safe limit to prevent complaints.   .... Phil

Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net>: Mar 24 09:13PM -0400 In article <599bdc13-5c2c-4ae3-8451-5f575e1ea6abn@googlegroups.com>, pallison49@gmail.com says...   > ** The makers have experience with such failures and set a safe limit to prevent complaints.   Sometimes they do, some times they don't.   Around 1980 some hams were sending radio teletype using around 500 watts into trap beams and melting out the traps. The antennas were rated for the full power limit of over 1000 watts. However as it turned out the 1000 wats was for peak power of sideband and not continious power that was being sent to the antenna. The antenna companies had to revise their specifications.

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Mar 24 07:28PM -0700 Ralph Mowery wrote: =================   > 1000 wats was for peak power of sideband and not continious power that > was being sent to the antenna. The antenna companies had to revise > their specifications.   ** Just shows that experience comes first.   ** Once upon a time loudspeaker makers rated their products power handling based on normal home usage - even if used with a guitar amplifier. Then " hard rock " was invented and blew that method out of the water.       ..... Phil

Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net>: Mar 24 10:36PM -0400 In article <96fbdc1e-bb06-4078-98e5-75e34ccd2dccn@googlegroups.com>, pallison49@gmail.com says...   > ** Once upon a time loudspeaker makers rated their products power handling based on normal home usage - even if used with a guitar amplifier. Then " hard rock " was invented and blew that method out of the water.   Talking about speakers I just love the way some computer speaker/amplifiers were rated for close to 100 watts but powered by a small wall wart of maybe 12 volts and 1 amp at the most and inside the speaker was marked for around 2 watts.

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Mar 24 08:29PM -0700 Ralph Mowery wrote: ================== > speaker/amplifiers were rated for close to 100 watts but powered by a > small wall wart of maybe 12 volts and 1 amp at the most and inside the > speaker was marked for around 2 watts.   ** Seems there was no law preventing such nonsense.   Except you would have to gullible fool of the decade to believe it.   ...... Phil

Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Mar 24 11:43PM -0500 On 3/24/21 10:29 PM, Phil Allison wrote: > ** Seems there was no law preventing such nonsense.   > Except you would have to gullible fool of the decade to believe it.   E = I x R and P = E x I.   If you don't know/understand this, you have no idea of what things are capable or incapable of.   -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com

Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net>: Mar 25 12:23PM -0400 In article <sdidnejD6epxicH9nZ2dnUU7-XGdnZ2d@giganews.com>, jdangus@att.net says...   > E = I x R and P = E x I.   > If you don't know/understand this, you have no idea of > what things are capable or incapable of.   It is not so much the law of P = E x I, but the way it is applied.   There is a 'music'rating for the amplifier/speakers. Seems to sort of being related to radar power. You pulse the microwave device with a few micro seconds of power several times a second and get a peak power of many thousand of watts, but the average power is just 10 watts.

"jurb...@gmail.com" <jurb6006@gmail.com>: Mar 24 11:24PM -0700 Believe it or not this one has been out-stupided.   "Do you have one of those TV fixing machines ? You got no business in business without one".   I wonder if you can top that in Australia. Now I used to be under the impression that most are smart, which means nothing. I am on this really private site, we got three pompous asses that all think they know it all when they are all just disgusting, stupid ultra-liberals. I don't mean regular liberals here, look in the dictionary and there is a picture of them. And of course they know what is best for us 10,000 fucking miles away.   And y'all spun Lewin A R W Edwards. just type his name in a search and read his history, used to be a resume. I ran into him when he was here doing coding n shit on an H1B. Quit college at 16 ad studies have been ad hoc since, it once said.   So basically I think you have to have a balance so you have to pay for the sharp guys by having a few that, well, are sharp as a bowling ball. It keeps some sort of natural balance maybe.   I am sure this is enough drivel for you, just thought you might derive a little, well something.

"jurb...@gmail.com" <jurb6006@gmail.com>: Mar 24 11:35PM -0700 >To be fair, he might be looking to hire someone to fix it for him.   Actually you are absolutely right.   All he is saying he wants to fix it. Give an estimate and then see if they "want to fix it".   Now the phone number starts with 07. I don't know how they dial in other countries but 07 is Russia. We have to put like a O++ or some shit to call it.   Well if that is the case he should take it to Poland. They got some GOOOOOOD electronics people there. Sending it across the pond is ridiculous.   And he might never check here again waiting for the phone to ring.

Rheilly Phoull <rheilly@bigslong.com>: Mar 25 06:11AM +0800 On 24/03/2021 9:45 pm, Phil Hobbs wrote:   > Bosch dishwashers, don't get me started.   > Cheers   > Phil Hobbs   Ahh! it all seems to be a lottery to me. Naturally enough there are most posts by folks who got a lemon and for every such there will also be one saying well I had such and such for 20 years etc. We have had a Bosch dishwasher for many years now with no problems but then again there are many models also. You win some and lose some IMHO.

Bennett <bjprice@cal.berkeley.edu>: Mar 24 03:16PM -0700 On 3/24/2021 3:53 AM, Peter W. wrote:   > As an aside, there are You-Tube videos on about every aspect of maintaining about every sort of appliance, and about any part you might think of is readily available out there - at least in the USA - usually at reasonable costs as compared to a new unit.   > Peter Wieck > Melrose Park, PA   FWIW, Consumer Reports gives Predicted Reliability scores to washing machines - no distinction between controls and everything else that can break. Ratings are for particular models but in general:   Conventional top loaders - best are Speed Queen, Hotpoint and Roper High Efficiency top loaders - best is LG Front Loaders - best are LG, Electrolux, Kenmore

bob prohaska <bp@www.zefox.net>: Mar 24 11:36PM > Conventional top loaders - best are Speed Queen, Hotpoint and Roper > High Efficiency top loaders - best is LG > Front Loaders - best are LG, Electrolux, Kenmore   I'm surprised the results aren't more consistent between manufacturers. And, at least a _little_ more consistent anecdotally.   Maybe it really is a crapshoot.   Thanks for writing!   bob prohaska

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