Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 9 updates in 1 topic

JJ Lark <cbr6850@nospamverizon.net>: Apr 18 02:21PM -0400

On 4/18/21 10:51 AM, Peter W. wrote:
 
> Good idea given and if the goal is to capture the rosin fumes. Greater surface area will capture more fumes. My general approach is to run the ceiling fan in the room - it is a small room, so that is enough to move the fumes away from me. I do not solder enough to justify a dedicated system - perhaps when I retire not so long from now.
 
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
 
Thanks. I will be testing it out tomorrow for soldering. All I did
yesterday was light a match. My nose is normally not the greatest at
detecting odors, but I am sensitive to the burned off chemical from the
matches (I think it's phosphorus). Anyway, although not all the smoke
went in as I was standing about 4 feet away, within 5 minutes I could no
longer smell the phosphorus in the room. Normally, the smell would
persist for at least half an hour.
Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Apr 18 06:53PM -0500

On 4/18/21 1:21 PM, JJ Lark wrote:
> Normally, the smell would persist for at least half an hour.
 
I don't understand the obsession with soldering fumes.
I've been soldering for over 50 years now with no ill effects.
I certainly don't find the fumes irritating or obnoxious.
 
You're NOT breathing in lead fumes. Lead vaporizes at 3100F.
 
There are plenty of things I do that I do with good ventilation.
Just soldering isn't on my list.
 
 
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"Wolfgang Allinger" <all2001@spambog.com>: Apr 19 05:55AM -0400

On 18 Apr 21 at group /sci/electronics/repair in article d42dnZXIUsXgW-H9nZ2dnUU7-LvNnZ2d@giganews.com
 
> You're NOT breathing in lead fumes. Lead vaporizes at 3100F.
 
> There are plenty of things I do that I do with good ventilation.
> Just soldering isn't on my list.
 
#MeToo
 
Still using a leaded tin (Sn60 ?, sticker unreadable)
 
 
 
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"Peter W." <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Apr 19 03:39AM -0700

> I don't understand the obsession with soldering fumes.
> I've been soldering for over 50 years now with no ill effects.
> I certainly don't find the fumes irritating or obnoxious.
 
https://www.mgchemicals.com/downloads/msds/01%20English%20Can-USA%20SDS/sds-8342.pdf
 
Basically, the issue is paraffin waxes and tars precipitating in the lungs - from whence they are not ejected.
 
And, Jeff, where you solder, the rosin fumes would not stand a chance! Too much fresh air.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
JJ Lark <cbr6850@nospamverizon.net>: Apr 19 08:20AM -0400

On 4/18/21 7:53 PM, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
 
> You're NOT breathing in lead fumes. Lead vaporizes at 3100F.
 
> There are plenty of things I do that I do with good ventilation.
> Just soldering isn't on my list.
 
Well, to tell you the truth, I used to not worry about it either in the
days when I could get true 60/40 solder from Radio Shack, but those days
appear to be long gone. The last 8 oz one I ordered this past winter
was from an Ebay vender who carried the "Chinese" 60/40. After some
past experiences with Chinese electronics from there (Ebay) burning up,
I am leery to trust the solder so decided to add a $13 filter to the box
fan.
 
And it isn't just solder fumes either. I use a fair amount of heat
shrink. Not sure what most use to heat it, but I like using a plain
match from a match pack. Of course, the phosphorus then smells up the
room for 30 min and sometimes I tend to overheat the heatshrink a bit
with plastic odor, so the other reason for the fan filter.
 
I'll definitely find out how it does today as I have a fair amount of
soldering in store as well as some heatshrinking.
"ohg...@gmail.com" <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Apr 19 06:43AM -0700

On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 7:53:41 PM UTC-4, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
"ohg...@gmail.com" <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Apr 19 06:44AM -0700

On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 7:53:41 PM UTC-4, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
> Jeff-1.0
> WA6FWi
> http:foxsmercantile.com
 
Same here. If solder fumes are harmful I should have been dead 20 years ago. I solder six days a week.
"jfeng@my-deja.com" <jf0303222@gmail.com>: Apr 19 07:00AM -0700

> Same here. If solder fumes are harmful I should have been dead 20 years ago. I solder six days a week.
I never had enough hands, so I would sometimes hold the solder in my teeth. I used to be smart....
"Peter W." <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Apr 19 09:24AM -0700

> Well, to tell you the truth, I used to not worry about it either in the
> days when I could get true 60/40 solder from Radio Shack, but those days
> appear to be long gone.
 
60/40 solder from any source is wretched stuff. From China or not.
 
What you want is true eutectic solder, 63/37. Accept no substitutes. Plenty of US sources as well.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
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