Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 2 topics

"ohg...@gmail.com" <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Oct 11 01:19PM -0700

On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 12:17:58 PM UTC-4, legg wrote:
 
 
> Couldn't the connections to that single pixel be disconnected,
> producing a black t on the screen, and non-popping parts?
 
> RL
 
Yes. Learned from experience. I never touched a plasma until I carefully went over the entire display, including right to the edges. A single burned pixel meant the end of the road.
 
I repaired at least a hundred of those series when I was an LG ASC. The vast majority were bad IPMs on one sustain or the other, and once in a while a bad buffer board. I don't recall ever seeing a bad control, main, or power supply.
legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca>: Oct 12 12:32AM -0400

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 13:19:51 -0700 (PDT), "ohg...@gmail.com"
 
>> RL
 
>Yes. Learned from experience. I never touched a plasma until I carefully went over the entire display, including right to the edges. A single burned pixel meant the end of the road.
 
>I repaired at least a hundred of those series when I was an LG ASC. The vast majority were bad IPMs on one sustain or the other, and once in a while a bad buffer board. I don't recall ever seeing a bad control, main, or power supply.
 
So the bad cap plague on the PSU 5V rails didn't cross your
bench? It seemed to be reported to show up in a lot of units,
even when opened up for other issues.
 
No connector issues?
 
What were the functional symptoms at turn on for a burnt pixel,
(assuming one was missed)?
 
I'm waiting for 74AV540/541SJs for the Y_SUS, before trying to
straighten out the popping resistor issue on the buffer board.
Not sure what a burnt pixel looks like - a discoloration on
the unpowered screen?
 
What I'm worried about is anything that could result in a
repeatable chain of damage in assemblies that are working.
Don't want to kill functional IPMs.
 
RL
legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca>: Oct 12 10:10AM -0400

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 13:19:51 -0700 (PDT), "ohg...@gmail.com"
 
>> RL
 
>Yes. Learned from experience. I never touched a plasma until I carefully went over the entire display, including right to the edges. A single burned pixel meant the end of the road.
 
>I repaired at least a hundred of those series when I was an LG ASC. The vast majority were bad IPMs on one sustain or the other, and once in a while a bad buffer board. I don't recall ever seeing a bad control, main, or power supply.
 
By, the way, a close inspection with a flashlight showed no
visible irregularities in the unpowered screen's appearance
that couldn't be removed with a damp cloth.
 
RL
legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca>: Oct 12 10:26AM -0400

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 13:19:51 -0700 (PDT), "ohg...@gmail.com"
 
>> RL
 
>Yes. Learned from experience. I never touched a plasma until I carefully went over the entire display, including right to the edges. A single burned pixel meant the end of the road.
 
>I repaired at least a hundred of those series when I was an LG ASC. The vast majority were bad IPMs on one sustain or the other, and once in a while a bad buffer board. I don't recall ever seeing a bad control, main, or power supply.
 
I came across a service advisory for this model that
gave me a chuckle:
 
"2006 LCD, PDP, & MDPs that use the ARM CPU & Micronix Flash Memory.
 
Symptom:
 
During a specific date range the customer may turn on the TV and there
will be no video
 
or audio. The problem will first occur: Jun 20th, 2006, 14:03 ~ Jun
21st, 08:14. Then
 
it repeats every 194 days.
 
Solution:
 
Temporary fix is a hard reset (unplug for a few seconds). New firmware
is available as
 
a permanent fix. The update needs to be done by a service center.
 
Models:
 
32LC2D, 37LC2D, 42LC2D, 42PC3DV, 42PC3DVA, 42PC3D, 50PC3D, 50PX2D,
50PX2DC.
 
Tools Required:
 
Computer
 
Null Modem Serial Cable
 
Tools Supplied:
 
Instructions
 
Firmware Files
 
DTVLab Update Software
 
Versions:
 
32LC2D-UD : Ver3.06.1
 
37LC2D-UD : Ver3.06.1
 
42LC2D-UD : Ver3.05.1
 
42PC3DV-UD(42PC3DVA-UD) : Ver3.06.1
 
42PC3D-UD : Ver3.07.1
 
50PC3D-UD : Ver3.07.1
 
50PX2D-UD(50PX2DC-UD) : Ver3.10.1
 
42PC3DV-UD,42PC3DVA-UD : the same as S/W
 
50PX2D-UD,50PX2DC-UD : the same as S/W "
 
Would have thought that such an advisory would have
generated a surplus of support tools that would
remain for later employment . . . but nada.
 
RL
"ohg...@gmail.com" <ohger1s@gmail.com>: Oct 12 09:17AM -0700

On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 10:24:56 AM UTC-4, legg wrote:
> generated a surplus of support tools that would
> remain for later employment . . . but nada.
 
> RL
 
Honestly, I don't remember that at all. If I read that bulletin, then I forgot about it. I also don't recall ever getting complaints about that problem.
Yaseen Ansari <yaseenansari1@gmail.com>: Oct 11 02:22PM -0700

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:07:03 PM UTC-7, John Robertson wrote:
> the late 90s and early 00s, so you should be able to track it down.
 
> 12 years is not a record for oldest Usenet post responded to!
 
> John ;-#)#
 
 
Thanks John, Yes you are right, I can find DOS based programs.
Unfortunately I am limited to the option of using WINDOWS only.
I did find a programming by python tool (https://phyton.com/support/updates) window based but the splitted output file is not correct.
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Oct 12 12:04AM -0700

On 2021/10/11 2:22 p.m., Yaseen Ansari wrote:
 
> Thanks John, Yes you are right, I can find DOS based programs.
> Unfortunately I am limited to the option of using WINDOWS only.
> I did find a programming by python tool (https://phyton.com/support/updates) window based but the splitted output file is not correct.
 
You can run DOS BOX in a Windows machine...
 
https://www.dosbox.com/
 
I use it on XP for running my old Data I/O DOS only program.
 
John :-#)#
 
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