Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 8 updates in 2 topics

Mike S <mscir@yahoo.com>: Nov 06 08:03PM -0700

> I have two of these amps that exhibit either digital noise bursts on
> the outputs or no sound at all. I've looked everywhere but can't seem
> to get schemataics or a service manual. Can anyone help? Thanks.
 
I know this is not for your model but I thought it might be similar
enough to be useful. Sorry it isn't for your model, that searching came
up with nothing.
 
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1366970/Behringer-Inuke-Nu6000dsp.html#manual
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Nov 06 08:12PM -0700

Mike S wrote:
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> enough to be useful. Sorry it isn't for your model, that searching came
> up with nothing.
 
> https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1366970/Behringer-Inuke-Nu6000dsp.html#manual
 
** Wow !! A Behringer amp schem on line !

My eyes water trying to read the details though ....
 
FYI
 
That amp sells here in Australia new for a tad over $800.
Genuine 3000W per channel.
 
The similar model I saw did over 4000W.
Still basically a throw away product.
 
 
 
..... Phil
Jeff Layman <jmlayman@invalid.invalid>: Nov 07 09:00AM

On 07/11/2021 03:12, Phil Allison wrote:
 
>> https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1366970/Behringer-Inuke-Nu6000dsp.html#manual
 
> ** Wow !! A Behringer amp schem on line !
 
> My eyes water trying to read the details though ....
 
Yep. Those online versions at manualslib aren't exactly user-friendly.
But you can download the pdf and view that at 500%+ to give a pretty
clear view.
 
--
 
Jeff
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Nov 07 01:09AM -0800

Jeff Layman wrote:
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> Yep. Those online versions at manualslib aren't exactly user-friendly.
> But you can download the pdf and view that at 500%+ to give a pretty
> clear view.
 
 
** Done - it's crystal clear now !
 
Thanks, very muchly.
 
 
..... Phil
Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com>: Nov 06 11:41AM -0700


> 2. The steel case is magnetized - deflecting the trace.
 
> See if removing the cover makes a difference.
 
> BTW I could not find any internal pic on the net.
 
Heathkit used aluminum for most of their cabinets.
The CRT has a MuMetal shield.
 
Do you have a schematic and a real oscilloscope?
http://www.rsp-italy.it/Electronics/Kits/_contents/Heathkit/Kits/Heathkit%20IO-20%20ignition%20analyzer.pdf
 
I see a NE2 neon and a diode used in previous stages that could affect linearity, but I don't have a parts list. There is a pot off the Neon lap marked 'Right Adjust'.
 
Fair Radio still has some unused 5UP1 CRTs
https://fairradio.com/product/5up1/
 
There is currently another IO-20 on Ebay, less the probes.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174516063489
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Nov 06 03:19PM -0700

terrell....@gmail.com wrote:
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> > See if removing the cover makes a difference.
 
> > BTW I could not find any internal pic on the net.
 
> Heathkit used aluminum for most of their cabinets.
 
** So what ? This one may not be part of that "most".
CRT scopes with Aluminium cases are rare as hell.
 
> The CRT has a MuMetal shield.
 
** How do you know that ?
Another inspired guess ?
 
> Do you have a schematic and a real oscilloscope?
 
** Huh ?
 
> I see a NE2 neon and a diode used in previous stages that could affect linearity, but I don't have a parts list.
 
** The OP is clueless and posting contradictory, total nonsense.
So are you.
 
 
..... Phil
Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com>: Nov 06 10:31PM -0700


> > Heathkit used aluminum for most of their cabinets.
> ** So what ? This one may not be part of that "most".
> CRT scopes with Aluminium cases are rare as hell.
 
Maybe in Oz. HP and Tektronix used a lot of aluminum for their oscilloscope cabinets. Those aren't rare, among engineers or real techs.
 
> > The CRT has a MuMetal shield.
 
> ** How do you know that ?
 
From the photos that I linked to.
 
> > I see a NE2 neon and a diode used in previous stages that could affect linearity, but I don't have a parts list.
> ** The OP is clueless and posting contradictory, total nonsense.
> So are you.
 
Sigh, you are the queen of posting nonsense.
 
Look at the photos in the Ebay link that I posted and see inside the IO-20 for yourself. I've repaired a lot of Heathkit equipment, and most of it used aluminum, except for some stereo equipment. They sold wood cabinets to cover a bare steel chassis, or you could build them into custom cabinets.
 
I built my first Heathkit about 55 years ago. I built dozens for myself, and others.
 
I also used a Heathkit color bar generator to transmit a color station ID from a black and white TV station. I genlocked it to our master Sync Generator, then used the monochrome video keyer to add color to a B&W 35mm slide. The information was displayed on the AFRTS page of the US DOD website for about a decade, before they purged all the shared emails.
 
The other links included a schematic for the OP and a source for a new CRT, if needed.
 
A working scope is quite handy when repairing an ailing scope.
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Nov 07 12:45AM -0700

terrell....@gmail.com wrote:
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> > ** So what ? This one may not be part of that "most".
> > CRT scopes with Aluminium cases are rare as hell.
 
> Maybe in Oz. HP and Tektronix
 
 
** Sure, Heathkit = Tek
 
Who fucking knew ..................
 

> A working scope is quite handy when repairing an ailing scope.
 
** The fuckwit OP's scope is NOT ailing in the way he claimed.
 
Did you miss his U-tube ?

Vid worth a million false words.

 
 
......... Phil
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