Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 10 updates in 2 topics

danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com>: Jan 09 01:40PM

"Peter W." <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Jan 09 08:16AM -0800

Short answer is: Not under typical conditions and/or with a correct charger. However:
 
The electrolytes are flammable, and lithium itself is highly flammable. So, if the battery is overcharged and starts to leak, the released materials can cause fires and release a great deal of energy. Or if the battery is physically damaged such as a cracked casing or similar.
 
Peter WIeck
Melrose Park, PA
dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt): Jan 08 08:55AM -0800

In article <98294110-cf93-4521-9c09-ea8878da3bfcn@googlegroups.com>,
>> be a Chinese clone. Might this be a problem down the road, or should I
>> order a better brand and what are your suggestions? Thanks.
 
>a) A princely $0.65 from Digi-Key.
 
And, if you download the Digi-Key paper order form, fill it out by
hand, and mail it to Digi-Key with a check for the full cost of the
component, they'll pay the shipping charge. Yes, they're still
offering this service (as of about three months ago) although they
don't go out of their way to publicize it.
 
> - Yes, but in such a way as to cause additional cascade failures - so you are putting the device at-risk.
> - No.
 
>In fewer words: Don't be stupid.
 
"Cheap is often very expensive."
Jake T <jaketbone@steak.com>: Jan 08 12:14PM -0500

On 1/8/22 11:55 AM, Dave Platt wrote:
> component, they'll pay the shipping charge. Yes, they're still
> offering this service (as of about three months ago) although they
> don't go out of their way to publicize it.
 
Wow, I never knew this! Do I go ahead and pay shipping for which
they'll refund later, or just pay for the device?
 
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Jan 08 09:59AM -0800

On 2022/01/08 9:14 a.m., Jake T wrote:
>>>       - No.
 
>>> In fewer words:  Don't be stupid.
 
>> "Cheap is often very expensive."
 
Are there no electronic supply stores in your city/state? I'd try them
first. I do use DK and Mouser and Element 13 of course, but for single
and small orders I go to my local electronics supplier. In my case
(Vancouver/Burnaby, BC, Canada) it is https://www.rpelectronics.com -
They have a showroom you can wander around in, perfect for hobbyists and
hunting for something you can't recall the name of!
 
John :-#)#
 
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Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net>: Jan 08 02:25PM -0500

John Robertson wrote:
> They have a showroom you can wander around in, perfect for hobbyists and
> hunting for something you can't recall the name of!
 
> John :-#)#
 
RP Electronics? I wonder if they're the successor to the old
Rendell-Paret shop on 4th and Arbutus in Vancouver. That was a real
old-timey ham shop--stuff stacked to the rafters, and old Hedley Rendell
chain-smoking behind the counter.
 
I used to buy stuff there when I was a kid. Freaking ex-pen-sive
compared to now.
 
Cheers
 
Phil Hobbs
 
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Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com>: Jan 08 01:41PM -0800

John Robertson wrote:
==================
 
> Are there no electronic supply stores in your city/state? I'd try them
> first. I do use DK and Mouser and Element 13 of course,
 
** Element 13 ?? Aluminium ?
dplatt@coop.radagast.org (Dave Platt): Jan 08 08:05PM -0800

>> don't go out of their way to publicize it.
 
>Wow, I never knew this! Do I go ahead and pay shipping for which
>they'll refund later, or just pay for the device?
 
Just pay for the device, and include your local sales tax if any.
Don't pay for shipping.
 
To quote from their current Terms and Conditions document:
 
"6. Shipping Charges.
 
"Products Shipping from Digi-Key's Warehouse. Except as otherwise
provided on the Site, (1) shipping or freight charges and insurance
will be paid by the customer*, (2) all sales are made FOB Digi-Key's
warehouse in Thief River Falls, MN, USA, and (3) shipping or freight
charges from Digi-Key's warehouse in Thief River Falls, MN, USA are
prepaid and added to the invoice, billed collect or billed to a third
party.
 
"* When a check or money order accompanies your order, Digi-Key pays
all shipping and insurance (our choice for method of shipping) to all
addresses in the U.S. and Canada."
 
"Our choice of method for shipping" has always worked out to be the
same as their basic-price ground shipment, in my experience. The two
or three times I've used this method, I've not had a package delayed
unduely through having been sent on a slow horse via Mongolia, or
anything like that.
 
As far as I know there's no way to take advantage of this if you're
using their online ordering system, as you can't have a check or money
order "accompany your order". It might be possible to start the
process of order entry and then print out your "cart" and mail in the
printout, but I'm not sure this would give them all of information
needed to process the order. I just download the PDF of their
paper order form, print it, fill it out by hand, and mail it with a
check. If I write my Digi-Key customer number in the right place,
I even get an email from them when they process the order.
 
This manual process is a nice thing if you want to order just one or
ten small items (where the parts cost is less than their normal
shipping charge) and you don't mind the order taking an extra week
or so.
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Jan 08 11:27PM -0800

On 2022/01/08 11:25 a.m., Phil Hobbs wrote:
> compared to now.
 
> Cheers
 
> Phil Hobbs
 
I take it you grew up in Vancouver, BC. I started out in Toronto. Great
surplus stores in Toronto back in the 60s!
 
You knew Rendell Paret back in those days? I used to love hanging out in
that old shop too, along with the other electronics surplus store (run
by Peter - AIR) at Main and 17th or there about. Peter had very nice
monstrous TEK surplus oscilloscopes that I couldn't afford back in the
late 70s and early 80s...And of course Main Electronics around Main and
29th - but they are all gone now.
 
RP sold out to Andrew back in the 90s I believe and he kept the name
ever since. No longer surplus, which is a shame, but that market kinda
dried up. And the High schools in Vancouver no longer have electronics
as a course - although they do have robotics and other tech classes.
 
John :-#)#
John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>: Jan 08 11:29PM -0800

On 2022/01/08 8:05 p.m., Dave Platt wrote:
> ten small items (where the parts cost is less than their normal
> shipping charge) and you don't mind the order taking an extra week
> or so.
 
You could dig out an old Digi-Key catalogue and use the order page from
that - I assume - to get your free shipping. Photocopies would probably
be fine.
 
John :-#)#
 
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