Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 11 updates in 1 topic

"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>: Dec 23 08:11PM +0100

On 2022-12-23 15:59, micky wrote:
 
> A switch! I'd forgotten that word. In fact, I'd forgotten they
> existed. I will go read about them.
 
> Able to pass POE through it. I get it.
 
No, able to provide POE.
 
Enters a plain ethernet connection at one port, exits 3 or more POE
outputs. Or any number.
 
(and there is no distinction between ethernet coming in or out, they are
bidirectional. All the ports are equal, you just configure some to be
POE. Normally)
 
 
--
Cheers, Carlos.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: Dec 23 05:38PM -0500

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 23 Dec 2022 20:11:47 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
 
>> A switch! I'd forgotten that word. In fact, I'd forgotten they
>> existed. I will go read about them.
 
>> Able to pass POE through it. I get it.
 
It's a good thing I included this line!
 
>No, able to provide POE.
 
It's a good thing you contradicted me.
 
>Enters a plain ethernet connection at one port, exits 3 or more POE
>outputs. Or any number.
 
>(and there is no distinction between ethernet coming in or out, they are
 
That's wierd. But okay.
 
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: Dec 23 05:42PM -0500

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 23 Dec 2022 08:29:41 -0800, Bob F
>>>> that be enough? Even close to enough?
 
>>> You would need a powered hub.
 
>If you have power where the cameras are, look at wifi connected cameras.
 
They will be outside the house. I'd have to run a wire to have power
there. I'm still losing the connection with my wifi pprinter. 3 times
now in 4 months. Not very happy with wifi.
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>: Dec 23 11:55PM +0100

On 2022-12-23 23:38, micky wrote:
 
>> On 2022-12-23 15:59, micky wrote:
>>> In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 23 Dec 2022 15:35:13 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
>>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
 
...
 
 
> That's wierd. But okay.
 
>> bidirectional. All the ports are equal, you just configure some to be
>> POE. Normally)
 
A switch is just a box with ports, say eight:
 
+----------------------------------------------------------+
| * * * * * * * * |
| [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] [ ] |
| |
+----------------------------------------------------------+
 
Typically, there will be a LED or two per port.
 
All of them are born equal. Any of them can be connected to your router
or modem, any of them can be connected to your computer or cameras.
 
If it is "manageable", then you can connect to it from your computer (it
has an IP address) and you can "manage" it. Probably you can change any
port to be of type POE. Or you can configure one port to be "special"
and mirror all the communications of all ports or a single port, so that
you can listen to them in a computer and spy on them, er... analyze them
for problems.
 
Not all switches are manageable. Some need Windows for the management.
Some are not manageable at all. Price vary.
 
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>: Dec 23 06:38PM -0500

On 12/23/2022 9:42 AM, micky wrote:
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B72BHL2F/ref=ewc_pr_img_7
>> and this is the leading USB camera
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C2RL8PB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1
 
OK, you're inside the house.
 
How big a hole do you have to run wiring ?
 
I would not be particularly interested in
drilling holes through window frames :-)
It would be neat though, to have a
window frame with a couple USB ports on it :-)
Think of the resale value.
 
Paul
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: Dec 23 10:03PM -0500

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 23 Dec 2022 23:55:54 +0100, "Carlos E.R."
>or modem, any of them can be connected to your computer or cameras.
 
>If it is "manageable", then you can connect to it from your computer (it
>has an IP address) and you can "manage" it.
 
That sounds good. I hate unruly switches.
 
>for problems.
 
>Not all switches are manageable. Some need Windows for the management.
>Some are not manageable at all. Price vary.
 
Amazon, for example, seemed to have more POE switches than non-POE, and
some are manageable. Now I know what that means. I've been reading
other stuff from the reviews and the web.
 
It's too cold out to do this before spring, so I've got time to get it
right. It's 10PM now and -14^C in my part of Baltimore. Unusually
cold for this early, and even colder in the center of the country.
micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: Dec 23 10:14PM -0500

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 23 Dec 2022 18:38:26 -0500, Paul
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07C2RL8PB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1
 
>OK, you're inside the house.
 
>How big a hole do you have to run wiring ?
 
I don't have any yet.
 
>It would be neat though, to have a
>window frame with a couple USB ports on it :-)
>Think of the resale value.
 
Humming birds could fly up and recharge, and quad-copters, and space
ships.
 
But I've given up on mounting them at the top of the 2nd floor. Now it
will be where the second floor overhangs the first floor. It sticks out
about 20 inches in the front. I can mount two of the cameras under the
overhang and one around corner on the side of the house, and run the
wires** up through the overhang and through the bedroom/office floor.
They will come out under a bed or between the bed and the desk. I did
this before in the other room for the FIOS optical cable and it works
well.
 
**The ethernet cable and the power wire for the switch.
 
Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>: Dec 23 09:29PM -0800

On 12/23/2022 2:42 PM, micky wrote:
 
> They will be outside the house. I'd have to run a wire to have power
> there. I'm still losing the connection with my wifi pprinter. 3 times
> now in 4 months. Not very happy with wifi.
 
Get a better wifi router (or maybe, printer)
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>: Dec 24 10:13AM +0100

On 2022-12-24 06:29, Bob F wrote:
>> there. I'm still losing the connection with my wifi pprinter.  3 times
>> now in 4 months.  Not very happy with wifi.
 
> Get a better wifi router (or maybe, printer)
 
WiFi will always have disconnects. Shorter, longer, more, fewer... but
they will always be there.
 
--
Cheers, Carlos.
Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>: Dec 24 09:26AM

Carlos E.R. wrote:
 
> a computer and spy on them, er... analyze them for problems.
 
> Not all switches are manageable. Some need Windows for the management. Some are
> not manageable at all. Price vary.
 
It's rather unlikely that a home user would set out to buy "a switch", and
end-up with one that happens to be manageable and support PoE ... wallets
normally make that decision unless the user is aware of, and definitely wants
both features.
"Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>: Dec 24 10:44AM +0100

On 2022-12-24 10:26, Andy Burns wrote:
> and end-up with one that happens to be manageable and support PoE ...
> wallets normally make that decision unless the user is aware of, and
> definitely wants both features.
 
So I mention them ;-)
 
--
Cheers, Carlos.
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