- Helpful app for hearing test, whether on not you buy something - 5 Updates
- Sound on my new radio is muffled. - 3 Updates
| micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: Sep 26 04:16AM -0400 This app came with the yoke-style sound amplifier I bought, but it seems to work with a cell phone and earbuds too, and though it's not what an audiologist would do, IMO it's pretty good, and easy, and includes more than I would have espected** you don't have to buy the sound amplifier if you don't want, though I've included the link **It tests hearing at iirc 4 frequencies and goes up and down, and maybe up and down again, narrowing in on the lowest level at which you hear the sounds, for each ear. Even for my the $150 yoke style that I got, it seems to apply the results of the test to the amplification, though I didn't try this until yesterday, so I have no idea if it changed anything. OTOH, mayyyybe even for their fancier hearing aids, they use no more than this same app. But I'm offering this mostly as afun way to look at your hearing, without even leaving your desk. The manual, which I haven't read yet, and I should: https://www.myhearingservice.com/app/soundwear/soundwear2manual.pdf Here is the app, https://play.google.com/store/search?q=SOUNDWEAR&utm_source=opensearch&pli=1&c=apps Here is my product, but they make various kinds including behind the ear with the little tube. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C3MDFNRB?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details |
| Tim R <timothy42bach@gmail.com>: Sep 26 05:06AM -0700 Off topic, but my Dad told me a story about his entrance physical in the Army. He said at one point the doctor said, "read the writing on the chart." My Dad said, "what chart?" The doctor made a check mark on the form and said, "hearing okay." |
| Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com>: Sep 26 09:34AM -0400 On 9/26/2023 4:16 AM, micky wrote: > Here is my product, but they make various kinds including behind the ear > with the little tube. > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C3MDFNRB?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details These devices, with relatively unsophisticated electronics, are very likely all you need if your problem relates to hearing dialog on the radio, TV, or in the movies. Those environments are generally quiet except for the audio information you are interested in hearing. However, if your problem also involves comprehending speech when there's interfering sound, such as at restaurants, dinner parties at a private home, while talking walks with one or more people adjacent to a street in an urban setting etc., they are often inadequate and true hearing aids may be needed. |
| micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: Sep 26 11:56AM -0400 In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 26 Sep 2023 09:34:42 -0400, Retirednoguilt >home, while talking walks with one or more people adjacent to a street >in an urban setting etc., they are often inadequate and true hearing >aids may be needed. Yes, I'm usually alone listening to the radio or TV (which I can just make a little louder) or with one person 80% of whom talk loud enough that I have no trouble. Or on the phone**. But a couple days ago I was in an informal crowd and noticed that with the Maihear yoke device it was hard to hear one convesation because an other kept interfering. And noises I would not have noticed, would have thought small, were just as loud as the conversations. When I took the buds out of my ears, I could hear the conversation I wanted without being bothered by the other stuff. It's strange. It's also strange, IMO, that voices only get a little louder but other noises get far louder, like even the tapping of the keyboard keys or the rustling of paper. Maybe it's that logarithmic thing about sound, or maybe the little noises don't really get more louder but they surpass some level of loudness at which my mind doesn't ignore them anymore. Maybe we learn to ignore little noises below a certain level. (Footnotes become less interesting the more asterisks they have.) **the phone is interesting. When they are on speakerphone I have no trouble hearing them, but they sometimes can't hear me because my speakerphone is flakey***. When I use the handset, I often can't hear them. Sometimes I switch it on and off depending who's talking but I'm working on a long term solution which is connecting a Western Electric phone in the same location. I have a dial Princess phone from 63+ years ago that I'm sure works perfectly. Hmmm. It pays to discuss this stuff here. I also have a Western Electric handset that is hanging in the bathroom, connected to a wall plate with an on/off switch, a neon light to know when it's ringing, and a buzzer with a separate switch. No one calls me when I'm in the bathtub anymore and that would take up less space than a whole Princess. I hadn't thought of that until I tried to explain things to you. ***I don't want to buy another speakerphone because I'm cheap and I have a base station, 3 cordless extensions, and 3 spares with charging holders I bought on ebay for when the extensions fail. (After on one the on/off started failing, but after it failed entirely, I found the speakerphone button is as good or better.) |
| Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com>: Sep 26 12:16PM -0400 On 9/26/2023 11:56 AM, micky wrote: > maybe the little noises don't really get more louder but they surpass > some level of loudness at which my mind doesn't ignore them anymore. > Maybe we learn to ignore little noises below a certain level. This is often because of microphone placement issues within a device and absence of hi-tech filtration both in items such as your yoke device and in lower tech hearing aids. You end up with essentially omnidirectional non-selective amplification of all sound in the environment. The higher tech (but more expensive hearing aids) have adjustable amplification levels for both the microphones designed and placed to emphasize sound in front of and somewhat to the side of the user and for the microphones that are designed and placed to give the user help hearing sounds behind (both for sound location and safety purposes). In addition, there can be multiple adjustable filters for frequency accentuation/attenuation, for damping of short duration, high amplitude sounds, etc. etc. However, unless and until properly adjusted, the hi tech hearing aids are likely produce results no better than the cheap stuff. That's why the settings need to be tweaked and personalized by a skilled audiologist in response to the detailed information provided by the user. This often takes 2-4 visits spaced about a week apart for reasonable trial after each adjustment. Also, apparently the brain needs some time to accommodate to the new characteristics of the auditory input. It's more complicated and difficult to obtain optimal results than with a visit to the optometrist for a visual exam and Rx for typical visual correction with eyeglasses. |
| micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: Sep 26 03:36AM -0400 In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 25 Sep 2023 09:44:23 -0400, Retirednoguilt >lock", can be attached which is supposed to keep the hearing aid in >place during physical activity. They appear to be only about $13 (US) >per pair. Can't vouch for their comfort, ease of use, or effectiveness. https://www.hearingaidaccessories.co.uk/shop/hooks-clips-retentions/hearing-aid-sports-locks/ Only £9.99 for a pack of 10! But I'd have to get some Pounds somewhere. "They rest in your concha bowl...." I'm not even sure I have a concha bowl. My mother had all that stuff, finger bowls, punch bowl, soup bowls. When she moved to an apartment, she got rid of a lot of stuff. I'll check if she left me one or two. |
| micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: Sep 26 04:24AM -0400 In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 25 Sep 2023 00:58:55 -0000 (UTC), David >situations where you cannot hear right and need adjustments. >Good luck, >David Very valuable info here. Thanks. I talked to a guy at a meeting on Sunday who had Jabra. I know there are better than this, and I think I have good insurance, but what impressed me is that the "behind the ear" was much better than what I used to see pictures of in 1964. Surprise! Only 50 years later and they're better. The behind part was smaller, the tube into the ear was smaller, and probbably longer, and the thing in the ear was probably small enough that it wouldn't bother me and you can still hear the actual sound. Despite my joking with you, Retirednoguilt, I am serious. Your post was very encouraging. (I think I had in mind the ones that looked like little acorns and the whole things was stuffed in ones ear, like an iPod or earbud.) Th |
| Retirednoguilt <HapilyRetired@fakeaddress.com>: Sep 26 09:47AM -0400 On 9/26/2023 3:36 AM, micky wrote: > bowl. My mother had all that stuff, finger bowls, punch bowl, soup > bowls. When she moved to an apartment, she got rid of a lot of stuff. > I'll check if she left me one or two. This is what I was referring to when I wrote: https://www.hearingaidaccessory.com/shop/hooks-clips-retentions/gn-resound-one-hearing-aid-sports-locks-for-surefit-3-receiver/ However, I don't know if or how well they would fit on other brands. By the way, if you have the part of the ear that extends out from your skull, that structure (the external ear) unless misshapen, has a concha as one of its parts. See: https://www.shutterstock.com/search/cymba-conchae |
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