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TOPIC: Where to buy a small wheel hub motor?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/bff5998ba56db04d?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 12:18 am
From: John Doe

Smitty Two <prestwhich earthlink.net> wrote:

> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Specifically, where can I buy a high quality small wheel hub motor
>> (with wheel) like the one used for powered Trikkes?
>>
>> http://www.trikke.com/hd_2/Refurbished-Trikkes/Tribred-E-Kit-Upgrade
>>
>> http://www.trikke.com/CU_frontwheel.jpg
>>
>> Or some other small wheel (16 inches or less) hub motor?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> You can buy shit almost anywhere,

How about a high quality small wheel hub motor (with wheel) like
the one used for powered Trikkes?

> but if you want the best, there's only one company.
>
> http://www.heinzmann.de/en

Apparently they are not for sale there.
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> Subject: Re: Where to buy a small wheel hub motor?
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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 7:15 am
From: Meat Plow

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 05:22:48 +0000, John Doe wrote:

> Meat Plow <mhywatt yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> John Doe wrote:
>>
>>> Specifically, where can I buy a high quality small wheel hub motor
>>> (with wheel) like the one used for powered Trikkes?
>>>
>>> http://www.trikke.com/hd_2/Refurbished-Trikkes/Tribred-E-Kit-Upg rade
>>>
>>> http://www.trikke.com/CU_frontwheel.jpg
>>>
>>> Or some other small wheel (16 inches or less) hub motor?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> Why not buy from the links you posted?
>
> Because that option does not exist.

First hit on Google.com

http://www.scootercatalog.com/750-watt-rear-hub-motor.html

--
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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 7:23 am
From: "(PeteCresswell)"

Per John Doe:
>
>> but if you want the best, there's only one company.
>>
>> http://www.heinzmann.de/en
>
>Apparently they are not for sale there.

A lot of bike motors come from China and my experience is that
almost anything from China is iffey: might be OK, might be
junk... even the same make/model may vary greatly. I had one
item where they couldn't even thread a shaft properly and it had
to be replaced.

So, unless you can afford top dollar for something from a
European maker, the firewall between you and the Chinese maker
becomes important.

It's not whether something is going to go wrong or not. Things
*will* go wrong. Instead, it's how the retailer handles it.

I bought a complete eBike conversion kit from one little guy and
got what I'm pretty sure is a bad battery. His only response
was to tell me to ship it to some middleman via hazmat shipping
and see what the middleman says. This guy didn't even have
batteries in stock.

OTOH, I bought a motor from ebikes.ca, had an issue with a noise
from the motor, and they made it right immediately and
painlessly. I would definitely recommend these guys to anybody
they will ship to.
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PeteCresswell

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 8:03 am
From: Smitty Two

In article <4c7cacd7$0$14397$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

> > http://www.heinzmann.de/en
>
> Apparently they are not for sale there.

They are the manufacturer. I assumed you could find your own distributor
with a modicum of googling, or perhaps asking the manufacturer for names
of distributors in your area, *after* you've perused the manufacturer's
specs to select the correct motor for your application. I stand
unequivocally by my assertion that you will not find a better hub motor
than Heinzmann.

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TOPIC: Best solder free electrical connection
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/11e5e6461418f740?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 2:52 am
From: "Daniel Mandic"

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

> Really? You have the Fiesta, when you scrap the Ford. :(

I don't remember a time when Ford was good in eu. In the seventies they
had nice looking cars and comfy, but the fuel consumption was too high
and they had rust problems. People drove 20l/100KM Fords in the
seventies, with a price of 11.7 Schilling per liter gasoline, that is
approximately a dollar today.
Today Fords are ugly and crappy (cheap though).

I go well with a II Golf/Jetta (built 1983-92). Affordable parts,
well-grounded design makes repair easy, light chassis and an
unbelieveable life-span.... not to mention the overdose of wax they
spent to the cavities. But only from 88-92, before they had also rust
problems.
Mine (1990 Jetta, 90HP, 1.8litres) is similar looking to the america
edition, but 200 Kilo lighter and some HP less. 6.4litres/100KM
minimum; 7 to 7.5 litres nominally ;-).

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Daniel Mandic

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 3:44 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Daniel Mandic wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
> > Really? You have the Fiesta, when you scrap the Ford. :(
>
> I don't remember a time when Ford was good in eu. In the seventies they
> had nice looking cars and comfy, but the fuel consumption was too high
> and they had rust problems. People drove 20l/100KM Fords in the
> seventies, with a price of 11.7 Schilling per liter gasoline, that is
> approximately a dollar today.
> Today Fords are ugly and crappy (cheap though).
>
> I go well with a II Golf/Jetta (built 1983-92). Affordable parts,
> well-grounded design makes repair easy, light chassis and an
> unbelieveable life-span.... not to mention the overdose of wax they
> spent to the cavities. But only from 88-92, before they had also rust
> problems.
> Mine (1990 Jetta, 90HP, 1.8litres) is similar looking to the america
> edition, but 200 Kilo lighter and some HP less. 6.4litres/100KM
> minimum; 7 to 7.5 litres nominally ;-).

I drive a Dodge Dakota pickup truck. I am disabled and can't get in
anything smaller, with my long legs. I've tried, and I have the scars
to prove it. :(

--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.

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TOPIC: Yet another bulging-capacitors replacement
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/3ec97de65fce9bb3?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 6:37 am
From: Jim Yanik

"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in
news:Q_Xeo.1360$c_6.370@newsfe30.ams2:

>
>
> "Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
> news:phnn76d5fjpcls7lfscj6t40hehqnc9db4@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:35:00 -0400, JW <none@dev.null> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:19:44 -0700 Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>>wrote in Message id: <ebug76lk13plippid57h6q6vacu8ve4om9@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>>I don't believe it. The winner of the power hogging consumer CPU
>>>>contest was the DEC/Intel Alpha 21364 (EV79):
>>>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_21364>
>>>>which burned 155 watts. Itanium II came close with 130 watts (per
>>>>core).
>>
>>>Check again.
>>>http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=43410&processor=9350&spec-codes=S
>>>LBMX 185W! Gotta love that price as well.
>>
>> I stand corrected.
>> <http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18445>
>> Some of the reader comments are rather interesting. Still, with any
>> of these "powerful" processors, a conventional air cooled machine is
>> going to have a very hot breath and a rather large power supply. I
>> just don't see this kind of power dissipation in a "dedicated game
>> machine". Measuring the AC mains power consumption should settle the
>> matter.
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
>
>
> Have you any idea just how much processing power it takes to run a
> user-interactive story in real time, and then to 3D render the
> graphics in real time ? Do you think that they rate the 12v PSU for
> 23.5 amps in one version, and 32 amps in the other, for fun ? Those
> are not real questions, because I know full well when you stop and
> think about it, you know the answers, Jeff.
>
> I've just looked at the rating plate on the bottom of one of the
> cases, and it is 240v (nominal UK line voltage) at 1.8 amps. I make
> that a maximum input power of around 430 watts. It's a switching PSU,
> so I reckon that we can rate that as being at the very worst 80%
> efficient, so that's still 345 watts potentially going somewhere. I'm
> prepared to go with 45 watts into ancillary circuitry on the board,
> which still leaves around 300 watts going somewhere.

that assumes that all the power of the supply is actually used.
I'm sure there is some reserve capacity there.

"max input power" is not "actual used power".

> Perhaps I'm being
> naive, but my best guess is that it's disappearing into the two bloody
> great BGAs which the manufacturers are trying their utmost to
> heatsink. If you try to run one of these machines with the heatsinking
> not in place, it goes into thermal protect in about 5 seconds - and
> all it's doing then is booting. The heatplates on the BGAs are at this
> point hot enough to take your fingerprints off ...
>
> Nope, I'm pretty sure that these two puppies are good for 150 watts
> apiece, when the machine is doing some real work.
>
> Arfa
>
>

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 9:35 am
From: Jeff Liebermann

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 01:26:23 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Have you any idea just how much processing power it takes to run a
>user-interactive story in real time, and then to 3D render the graphics in
>real time ?

Well, no. I'm not a power user. What little rendering I do is with
bacon fat.

>Do you think that they rate the 12v PSU for 23.5 amps in one
>version, and 32 amps in the other, for fun ? Those are not real questions,
>because I know full well when you stop and think about it, you know the
>answers, Jeff.

Actually, I don't know. I don't have any customers with such machines
and have had zero experience with high power graphic workstations
(other than early 1980's Applicon CAD stations) or game machines. I
have worked on various network servers, which do burn such power
levels. I have looked at a 3D MRI image processor, which had some
manner of dedicated processor inside, but it certainly wasn't belching
400 watts of heat (my estimate by the amount of fan noise).

>I've just looked at the rating plate on the bottom of one of the cases, and
>it is 240v (nominal UK line voltage) at 1.8 amps. I make that a maximum
>input power of around 430 watts. It's a switching PSU, so I reckon that we
>can rate that as being at the very worst 80% efficient, so that's still 345
>watts potentially going somewhere. I'm prepared to go with 45 watts into
>ancillary circuitry on the board, which still leaves around 300 watts going
>somewhere. Perhaps I'm being naive, but my best guess is that it's
>disappearing into the two bloody great BGAs which the manufacturers are
>trying their utmost to heatsink. If you try to run one of these machines
>with the heatsinking not in place, it goes into thermal protect in about 5
>seconds - and all it's doing then is booting. The heatplates on the BGAs are
>at this point hot enough to take your fingerprints off ...
>
>Nope, I'm pretty sure that these two puppies are good for 150 watts apiece,
>when the machine is doing some real work.

Ok, I stand corrected. I've been assuming that the CPU's are doing
most of the power dissipation. I didn't think of a dedicated graphics
processor or whatever the BGA chips are doing. Do you have a gun
style IR thermometer? I use that to determine if anything is running
hot. I use a black (non-reflective) cardboard tube attached to the
lens to prevent it from picking up adjacent components. Incidentally,
I have yet to find one where the laser dot actually points to where
the device is measuring when in close proximity. You can also get a
rough idea of how much effort is going into cooling. If the BGA's
burn more power than the CPU's, then they're going to need more
massive heat sinks and better air cooling. At 400 watts, I would
think they would have gone to heat pipes and external radiators or
maybe liquid cooling.

Incidentally, I repaired a P4 motherboard yesterday which used Artic
Silver. My guess is that there was about 5 times as much Artic Silver
smeared over the CPU (and down the sides where it does nothing) as
necessary. The stuff down the sides was still fluid, so at $10 for
3.5 grams, I saved the excess.

--
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 9:56 am
From: Meat Plow

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:35:11 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> ncidentally, I repaired a P4 motherboard yesterday which used Artic
> Silver. My guess is that there was about 5 times as much Artic Silver
> smeared over the CPU (and down the sides where it does nothing) as
> necessary. The stuff down the sides was still fluid, so at $10 for 3.5
> grams, I saved the excess.

Heh...reminds me of a previously repaired (not by me) QSC PLX series amp
I opened up and scraped about a pound of white paste out of it.

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 6:04 pm
From: "William R. Walsh"

Hi!

> This is quite a bit more dissipation than the average desktop, causing
> some things to be more critical.

Well, it used to be. ;-)

The Pentium 4 "Pres-hot" didn't earn that derogatory nickname for nothin'. I
cringe to think of multi-processor systems and how much heat they were
dumping into the air. I had a 3.4GHz Prescott P4 in a Dell Dimension 8300.
On hot days, it had no problem equaling the sound volume of a small canister
vacuum cleaner.

> 1. The less silicon grease used, the better.

I remember reading that somewhere. I'm not sure that everyone--including
some major manufacturers--got the memo. After removing the STK-2038 II
module from my Techics SA-310 receiver, I found a massive amount of heatsink
compound behind it. Wow.

> 2. All heat sinks and transistor bases are NOT flat.

Somtimes not by a *long* shot!

> 3. Compression pressure is important. None of the standard spring
> clip CPU heat sink holders come even close to optimum.

Really? I find that extremely surprising, especially as firmly as some of
them hold on. They really do *seem* to be doing a good job.

Sometimes the heatsink compound has established a tight enough bond that the
processor comes out firmly glued to the bottom of the heatsink, without so
much as releasing the ZIF socket lever. I've seen that on Socket 478 and
AM2+ boxen before. It's kind of scary to look down and realize the processor
isn't where it should be!

William

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TOPIC: Digimate L-1715 inverter part ID needed
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/e7777d19925a9def?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 7:09 am
From: Clyde

On 28/08/2010 09:07, Franc Zabkar wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:56:07 +0100, Clyde
> <mkdrummeyNOSPAMPLEASE@hotmail.com> put finger to keyboard and
> composed:
>
>> Hi. Just got a Digimate 17 inch monitor with no display. Found a bad
>> shottky diode on the inverter PCB so I replaced that and the fuse, now I
>> have a screen, however after a few minutes it starts to flicker badly,
>> on the inverter the transformer on the side I replaced the diode is
>> getting hot. After a bit of tracing I have found a small SMD (8 pin,
>> looks like an IC) which is shorted to all pins. I am unable to read the
>> tiny writing on top and can find no information on what the part is.
>> Does anyone have any idea, or possibly a schematic. Judging by the way
>> it is connected (there is an identical one on the other side of the
>> inverter, dual lamp) I think it may actually be a special kind of zener
>> diode.
>>
>> Anyway some numbers, the monitor is a Digimate L-1715 ( I believe the
>> inverter is used in a variety of other brands ). The inverter PCB is
>> part number IV185030HX. The part I need is identified as Q3 (maybe a
>> transistor?)
>>
>> Can anyone help?
>
> I'm confused. At one point you say the mystery device is a special
> zener diode, then you go on to say that it is a transistor. Are you
> talking about two different components?
>
> IME, 8-pin smd transistors are often MOSFETs. There is usually one
> gate pin, and several drain and source pins.
>
> Is there a control IC on the inverter board? If so, then its datasheet
> may have an application circuit that is similar to yours.
>
> - Franc Zabkar

Sorry, the only letter I could read on the top was "N" which when I
checked online mentioned a zener diode. However it is labeled Q3 which
suggests otherwise. I have since found out it is an N channel MOSFET. It
does have 3 pins tied on one side, 4 on the other and a single pin. It
is short-circuit to all pins.

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TOPIC: HOT BABES
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/53f8649f20d8c129?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 9:06 am
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TOPIC: Does anybody fix CRT big screen/save the parts?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ae926ce5c324ba0c?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 10:09 am
From: Sofa Slug

Bruce Esquibel wrote:
> bob u <sound@inetnebr.com> wrote:
>> Just taking a pole on whether its work saving parts from tube type big
>> screen TV's. I have one i am about to junk or give away. Put new CRT
>> and one drive board in it, and it had other issues. sat for years.
>
>> I am clearing space now, and debating if to save anything at all
>> or dump it. It seems on the resale market they are virtually
>> worthless with the advent of Plasma and LCD big screens.
>> The same with CRT based computer monitors. I have a nice 19"
>> high end NEC that is working that i cannot sell for $20.
>
>> It really does not matter how much the parts are worth, if you
>> never use them why save them?
>
> I don't see the point, I'm pretty confident "they arent going to make a
> comeback".
>
> Here in Chicago you can still toss them in the alley and the city will take
> them as part of the regular trash pickup. They "suggest" bringing them to a
> recycle center, but isn't mandatory as with other major cities.
>
> I hate doing that because the truck guys (can collectors, scrap dudes) will
> smash off the back, usually breaking the tube, just to grab the copper off
> the defection coil. Then you have a pile of broken glass to deal with.
>
> I had both a 35" Zenith System 3 tv and 21" Mits Diamond Scan monitor and
> couldn't give either of them away. Both worked as well as you expected for
> their age, needed zero repairs and probably were considered "good
> condition". No interest at all.
>
> So why bother parting them out, if no one wants it free, whole and working,
> who is going to get one fixed where the parts would of use?
>
> Heh, I still have 3 or 4 console tv's and one Grundig console radio down in
> the basement for the same reason, 20 years ago I figured they would be
> parted out and worth something.
>
> Now it looks like I have pay 1-800-junk to get rid of them.
>
> -bruce
> bje@ripco.com

I have had great success using 'Freecycle' <http://www.freecycle.org> to
dispose of old electronics. It's been a win-win for me - I get rid of
something I don't want, and the person picking it up is usually
delighted to have it.

I've also donated similar items to Goodwill. In Southern California at
least, they will take just about any electronic device, working or not.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 5:50 pm
From: "William R. Walsh"

Hi!

> Just taking a pole on whether its work saving parts from tube type big
> screen TV's. I have one i am about to junk or give away. Put new
> CRT and one drive board in it, and it had other issues. sat for years.

I don't usually do so, but then again, I don't make a habit of working on
that stuff and I won't touch rear projection TVs.

I usually do pull parts like speakers, power cords and "other stuff" that
might be useful in other projects. My 1997 vintage Magnavox 19" table TV got
a speaker from a Zenith 27" console when the original speaker was damaged.

When people have asked me about repairing their old RPTV, I have usually
always suggested that they look at something newer. Many times the existing
set has just been worn out from lots of watching or troublesome all of its
life.

> The same with CRT based computer monitors. I have a nice 19"
> high end NEC that is working that i cannot sell for $20.

On the other hand, I do favor these, for one big reason: If you have to run
at less than native resolution, a CRT monitor is really the *only* way to go
and still have a clear, sharp display. LCDs do better at this than they used
to, but you can still see the clear signs of scaling the image up to fit.

I still have many CRTs, lots of 17" ones, a few SVGA/VGA 14 and 15 inchers,
a monochrome VGA display or two and two 19" units. There's also one 25" NEC
behemoth that works but has a well used picture tube. I don't see myself
getting rid of these because they work, there's really nothing wrong with
them and they are most definitely paid for. The monochrome displays are used
on devices where a text console is only occasionally needed.

When my one NEC MultiSync 95 died from bad filter caps, I did opt to fix it.

It's true enough that you can't save everything.

William

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 5:55 pm
From: "William R. Walsh"

Hi!

> Here in Chicago you can still toss them in the alley and the city will
take
> them as part of the regular trash pickup. They "suggest" bringing them to
a
> recycle center, but isn't mandatory as with other major cities.
>
> I hate doing that because the truck guys (can collectors, scrap dudes)
will
> smash off the back, usually breaking the tube, just to grab the copper off
> the defection coil. Then you have a pile of broken glass to deal with.

That would annoy me, but then again, I'm a big-time trashpicker. Sometimes I
have to work quite hard to say "no" to something that I see. It doesn't
matter what. Some things I fix up and sell cheap.

> I had both a 35" Zenith System 3 tv and 21" Mits Diamond Scan monitor and
> couldn't give either of them away. Both worked as well as you expected for
> their age, needed zero repairs and probably were considered "good
> condition". No interest at all.

I wouldn't have needed the TV, but I would have taken you up on the monitor.
Someone gave me a 27" Sanyo TV from 1999 in like new condition. Works like
new as well...and was very well kept by a person who kept all the pieces:
book, remote, box and other goodies. I'll probably have it for a long time,
I can't recall the last time I've watched TV.

> Heh, I still have 3 or 4 console tv's and one Grundig console radio down
in
> the basement for the same reason, 20 years ago I figured they would be
> parted out and worth something.

My grandfather has what must be one of the last console TVs made, a 2008
Zenith model with a 27" CRT. I think they finally threw in the towel on
those at last. Too bad, I'm one of those rare folks who liked them and would
have bought one new. (And I'm only 27!)

That console radio probably *does* have some value to the right person.
Tried asking in rec.antiques.radio+phono or a swap meet in your area?

William

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TOPIC: Technics KN800 MIDI keyboard no sound
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/f95dad92d98851fc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 4:06 pm
From: Geoff C

I was given a Technics SX-KN800 keyboard and am trying to repair it. I have
opened it up and the six or so PCB's are easy to get at. The symptom is no
audio. The PA thumps through the speakers on turn off and the PA has power
supply OK so it is not a concern at the moment. The line out has no audio
either. Of course it is possible that a crash has occured but I cannot find
a reset so far. No audio is getting to the PA. I could not find any signal
at the master volume either, though it may not have real signal at it.

I believe it was made early to mid 90's. There are a lot of Technics
proprietery chips in it. I have an op manual for a KN1000 which is similar,
but no schematics appear anywhere I have seen.

What I would like to know is a general question about how the audio signal
is generated from the PCM pulse stream. It may be a simple LPF from a
digital chip which regenerates the audio, or there may be a specialised
audio chip to look for? If I can't go much further I will have to junk it.

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TOPIC: Electronic Kenmore refrigerator not working, what does this sign mean
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 4:24 pm
From: Ignoramus20906

I have an electronic Kenmore refrigerator 596.50013100. I bought it
from a private party over a year ago and it has been working great
until now. It seems very well made, overall.

Yesterday it started beeping and displaying a strange trouble signal:

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Kenmore-Trouble.jpg

It is right above the word "Kenmore", is red and looks like a crossed
lock and an exclamation.

The temperature in the unit has been rising since then and clearly, it
is not cooling anything. Right now both freezer and fridge are at 46
degrees F.

I tried calling Kenmore, but could only speak to dummies who are
forbidden to give any diagnostics.

My question is WTF does this sign mean? It is meant to tell me
something.

Thanks

== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 4:30 pm
From: Pete Keillor

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:24:16 -0500, Ignoramus20906
<ignoramus20906@NOSPAM.20906.invalid> wrote:

>I have an electronic Kenmore refrigerator 596.50013100. I bought it
>from a private party over a year ago and it has been working great
>until now. It seems very well made, overall.
>
>Yesterday it started beeping and displaying a strange trouble signal:
>
> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Kenmore-Trouble.jpg
>
>It is right above the word "Kenmore", is red and looks like a crossed
>lock and an exclamation.
>
>The temperature in the unit has been rising since then and clearly, it
>is not cooling anything. Right now both freezer and fridge are at 46
>degrees F.
>
>I tried calling Kenmore, but could only speak to dummies who are
>forbidden to give any diagnostics.
>
>My question is WTF does this sign mean? It is meant to tell me
>something.
>
>Thanks
>
>i

Don't know, but it's obviously a bar across a thermometer symbol.
Could mean anything from "it ain't cooling" (Duh.) to the
thermocouple/thermopile/temperature sensor's dirty. Manual ought to
say if you can find one. Good luck.

Pete Keillor

== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 4:32 pm
From: Ignoramus20906

On 2010-08-31, Pete Keillor <keillorp135@chartermi.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:24:16 -0500, Ignoramus20906
><ignoramus20906@NOSPAM.20906.invalid> wrote:
>
>>I have an electronic Kenmore refrigerator 596.50013100. I bought it
>>from a private party over a year ago and it has been working great
>>until now. It seems very well made, overall.
>>
>>Yesterday it started beeping and displaying a strange trouble signal:
>>
>> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Kenmore-Trouble.jpg
>>
>>It is right above the word "Kenmore", is red and looks like a crossed
>>lock and an exclamation.
>>
>>The temperature in the unit has been rising since then and clearly, it
>>is not cooling anything. Right now both freezer and fridge are at 46
>>degrees F.
>>
>>I tried calling Kenmore, but could only speak to dummies who are
>>forbidden to give any diagnostics.
>>
>>My question is WTF does this sign mean? It is meant to tell me
>>something.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>i
>
> Don't know, but it's obviously a bar across a thermometer symbol.
> Could mean anything from "it ain't cooling" (Duh.) to the
> thermocouple/thermopile/temperature sensor's dirty. Manual ought to
> say if you can find one. Good luck.

Pete, the manual is here:

http://igor.chudov.com/manuals/Kenmore-596.50013100-Manual.pdf

but it is not saying anything.

== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 4:47 pm
From: Gunner Asch

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:24:16 -0500, Ignoramus20906
<ignoramus20906@NOSPAM.20906.invalid> wrote:

This may be of some assistance in determining your code.

http://www.appliancepartspros.com/repairtips/repairtips_appliance+fault+codes.aspx#Sears%20/%20Kenmore%20Fault%20Codes

It gives a listing of who actually made your applience, so you can then
look for their trouble codes

Gunner

I am the Sword of my Family
and the Shield of my Nation.
If sent, I will crush everything you have built,
burn everything you love,
and kill every one of you.
(Hebrew quote)

== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 4:48 pm
From: Pete Keillor

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:32:05 -0500, Ignoramus20906
<ignoramus20906@NOSPAM.20906.invalid> wrote:

>On 2010-08-31, Pete Keillor <keillorp135@chartermi.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:24:16 -0500, Ignoramus20906
>><ignoramus20906@NOSPAM.20906.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>I have an electronic Kenmore refrigerator 596.50013100. I bought it
>>>from a private party over a year ago and it has been working great
>>>until now. It seems very well made, overall.
>>>
>>>Yesterday it started beeping and displaying a strange trouble signal:
>>>
>>> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Kenmore-Trouble.jpg
>>>
>>>It is right above the word "Kenmore", is red and looks like a crossed
>>>lock and an exclamation.
>>>
>>>The temperature in the unit has been rising since then and clearly, it
>>>is not cooling anything. Right now both freezer and fridge are at 46
>>>degrees F.
>>>
>>>I tried calling Kenmore, but could only speak to dummies who are
>>>forbidden to give any diagnostics.
>>>
>>>My question is WTF does this sign mean? It is meant to tell me
>>>something.
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>i
>>
>> Don't know, but it's obviously a bar across a thermometer symbol.
>> Could mean anything from "it ain't cooling" (Duh.) to the
>> thermocouple/thermopile/temperature sensor's dirty. Manual ought to
>> say if you can find one. Good luck.
>
>Pete, the manual is here:
>
> http://igor.chudov.com/manuals/Kenmore-596.50013100-Manual.pdf
>
>but it is not saying anything.
>
>i
Yup, that's pretty useless. Maybe there's a service manual, but a
cursory google didn't turn up anything useful. There's still stuff
you could inspect, like is the compressor running, and are the coils
dirty. Since it's showing the temperature, it probably isn't the
temperature sensor.

Pete Keillor

== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 4:51 pm
From: Tim Wescott

On 08/31/2010 04:24 PM, Ignoramus20906 wrote:
> I have an electronic Kenmore refrigerator 596.50013100. I bought it
> from a private party over a year ago and it has been working great
> until now. It seems very well made, overall.
>
> Yesterday it started beeping and displaying a strange trouble signal:
>
> http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Kenmore-Trouble.jpg
>
> It is right above the word "Kenmore", is red and looks like a crossed
> lock and an exclamation.
>
> The temperature in the unit has been rising since then and clearly, it
> is not cooling anything. Right now both freezer and fridge are at 46
> degrees F.
>
> I tried calling Kenmore, but could only speak to dummies who are
> forbidden to give any diagnostics.
>
> My question is WTF does this sign mean? It is meant to tell me
> something.

That's a picture of an English bobby. Obviously the food's been rioting
and they've hauled the compressor of to quod.

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 4:56 pm
From: wmbjkREMOVE@citlink.net

On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:32:05 -0500, Ignoramus20906
<ignoramus20906@NOSPAM.20906.invalid> wrote:

Check the condenser fan motor (under the grill at the back most
likely). Those things tend to be weak, even a barely motivated dust
bunny can stop them from turning. I had it happen to my fridge
recently. The fan motor would only start if I gave it a little help.
Dismantled the motor (not designed to be serviceable, but no sweat),
cleaned and reassembled, and it worked fine for a week until the new
one came. About $30 delivered. If you discover that the fan is the
culprit and can't get it going while waiting for the replacement, then
just aim a portable fan so that it moves air across the coils.

Wayne

== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 5:33 pm
From: Ignoramus20906

I had a Eureka moment.

I understand what the sign means.

It means not much. It is a crossed thermometer and it means that the
fridge is unable to hold the preset temperature. Duh.

Why is it unable to do so, is the $64,000 question.

I opened up the back. I observe the following:

1) The condenser fan is running
2) The compressor (big heavy black part with copper pipes going in and
out of it) is quite hot to touch and is seemingly not running.

== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 5:47 pm
From: "Bill"

Sometimes there are hidden coils in the freezer. An electric heater on a
timer will defrost these. If that is not working, it will be a solid block
of ice.

Try putting all your food in ice chests and let it defrost for 24 hours with
doors open (unplug it). Then plug it back in and see if it works.

If it works for a few weeks, then same problem again, then suspect the
defrost heater/timer.

As to fixing, if it is an old refrigerator, get a new one as those save
electricity and will pay for themselves in 5 years or so.

== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 6:07 pm
From: "William R. Walsh"

Hi!

That wouldn't be an indication of a "child safety lock" would it?

If so, try holding each button down for a few seconds to see if one shuts it
off. I'd think that maybe such a thing would be in the manual, but who
knows?

William

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TOPIC: Machete beaner charged with second count of murder
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:23 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.thetimesherald.com/article/20100830/NEWS05/100830016/Machete-suspect-charged-with-second-count-of-murder-

A 34-year-old Lexington man police said attacked four people with a
machete we arraigned today on an additional charge of murder after one
of the victims died Saturday.

Police said Jorge Diaz Jr. attacked the people inside 825 Griswold St.,
Port Huron Tuesday.

Laura Arnold, 50, died Saturday night of injuries sustained in the
"brutal" attack, police said.

Johnnie Lee Grafton, 56, of Port Huron also was killed in the attack.

Thomas Gracy II, 34, of Port Huron Township and Don Brennan, 52, of Port
Huron were injured in the attack. An update on their conditions was not
available.

Diaz was charged with one count of open murder, three counts of assault
with intent to murder and one count of arson of a dwelling Thursday.

According to court records, Diaz was re-arraigned today at 1 p.m. where
an attempted murder charge was replaced with a second open murder charge.

A preliminary examination is scheduled for 9:30 a.m. Sept. 7 in front of
District Judge Cynthia Platzer.

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TOPIC: Spiclet identified in June shooting death
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:25 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.gazette.com/articles/hernandez-103847-shooting-death.html

Colorado Springs Police are searching for a 17-year-old suspected of
shooting and killing another teen in a fight in June.

Leonel Hernandez, is wanted on first degree murder charges in the June
21 shooting death of Isaiah Goss, 17.

Goss was shot in the abdomen during a brawl at the Camelot Apartment
Homes, 458 S. Murray Blvd., that escalated when one man pulled out a gun
and fired into the air.

Hernandez, who goes by the alias "Suspect," is described as a 5 foot 9
inch Hispanic male, 145 pounds, with black hair and brown eyes.
Hernandez has been charged as an adult.

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TOPIC: Ape goes on stabbing spree at high school reunion
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:28 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.wbaltv.com/r/24816638/detail.html

BALTIMORE -- The man accused of stabbing several people at a high school
reunion over the weekend was denied bail on Monday.

During the bail review, 28-year-old James Dixon had very little to say
and gave no clues as to what happened over the weekend, 11 News reporter
Lisa Robinson said. The judge called Dixon a serious risk to public
safety and a flight risk.

Dixon's arrest on first-degree murder and first-degree attempted murder
charges followed a weekend party at the Patapsco Arena in south
Baltimore during a class reunion of Walbrook High School graduates who
attended the school from 1995 to 2005.

Police said there was an altercation inside and that Dixon stabbed six
people, killing one of them, 23-year-old Carrington McNutt.

The charging documents give little information about a motive, Robinson
reported.

The documents said that when police arrived at the arena at about 1 a.m.
Saturday for reports of a shooting, they found "an unknown black male
lying face-up in a pool of blood." The document stated that the police
officer who responded "was unable to determine the exact location of the
victim's wounds due to the large amount of blood on his face."

The document said that detectives later found out that the victim had
not been shot and had instead suffered several stab wounds to the neck
and head. The documents said the victim was taken to Shock Trauma, where
he died a little later.

The police report didn't list the names of any witnesses to protect them
from retaliation, Robinson reported.

Dixon's public defender noted in court that there are questions about
who those witnesses are and how they came to identify Dixon.

The lawyer said that Dixon has a 10th-grade education and went to
Douglass High School before getting his GED. She said he had been
working at a Shop and Save for the last two years.

The state pre-trial investigator said in court that Dixon has seven
prior convictions for various offenses.

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TOPIC: 3rd shoplifting wetback arrested in Walmart assault
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:30 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-walmart-assault-txt,0,3932330.story

LITTLETON, Colo. - Authorities have arrested a third suspect in
connection with a brutal assault on a Walmart worker in Littleton which
was caught on video earlier this month.

The Jefferson County Sheriff's Office says Wayne Vigil, the man seen
pushing a shopping cart containing stolen goods, was arrested after tips
from media coverage.

The incident happened Aug. 20 at the Walmart located at 13240 W. Cole
Mine Ave.

Investigators say three Latino men left the garden center of the store
pushing a shopping cart filled with stolen merchandise, which set off an
alarm when they went through a door.

A male Walmart employee tried to stop the suspects on the sidewalk in
front of the store, at which point one of them struck the employee on
the side of the head, knocking him face-first into the shopping cart,
officials said.

He sustained -what the Sheriff's Office called- "serious bodily injury."

In surveillance video released by the Sheriff's Office, the suspects are
seen driving off in a dark-colored SUV as the victim struggles to get to
his feet while covering a wound on his face. (Watch Video)

Vigil joins suspects Joe Lucero, 34, and Jose Cruz, 19, who were
previously arrested.

The getaway driver remains at large.

Anyone with information is asked to call the Sheriff's Office tip-line
at 303-271-5612.

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TOPIC: Spook robs dog owner and gets bit by dawg
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:32 am
From: Mike Gross

http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/crime_and_courts/article_1e684f4e-b450-11df-a3b7-001cc4c002e0.html

A mugging victim's dog "took a bite outta crime" Saturday night,
chomping down on the suspect's leg as he ran away with the dog owner's
wallet.

The incident happened at about 8:45 p.m. Saturday in Elver Park on the
city's southwest side, Madison police said.

According to the police report, the 31-year-old Madison man was running
with his 70-pound dog on a bike path near a bridge in the park, when he
heard footsteps behind him.

"Then he felt an object being pushed into his lower back," said police
spokesman Joel DeSpain. "The robber told him not to be stupid as he
groped around in the victim's pockets."

The suspect took the wallet and was about to run when the dog chomped
down on the mugger's leg.

"He was still able to get away," DeSpain said.

The suspect is a black male, 30-35 years old, 5 feet, 7 inches to 5
feet, 10 inches tall, short hair, wearing a black t-shirt and blue jeans.

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TOPIC: Niglet Sought In Henrico Robbery, Shooting
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:33 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.wric.com/Global/story.asp?S=13066512

Henrico Police are searching for a suspect accused shooting an elderly
man during an attempted robbery Saturday.

The victim was walking with a 6-year-old to the store in the 6000 block
of Nine Mile Road late Saturday evening when they were approached by a
suspect armed with a handgun. The suspect demanded money from the
victim, then shot him when the victim said he had no money.

The suspect then fled the scene on foot. The 6 year old was not injured
in the incident.

The gun shot victim, identified by police as John Vaughan, is recovering
in the hospital from serious injuries.

The suspect is described as a black male, possibly a teenager, standing
about 5 foot 9 with a thin build. Police said he has short hair and was
last seen wearing a white tee shirt and gray pants.

Investigators said a nearby group of teenagers likely witnessed the
incident. Anyone with information is asked to call Crime Stoppers at
780-1000.

Stay with 8News for updates.

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TOPIC: Nigger stabs toy poodle with scissors and boosts a TV and money and
jewelry
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:38 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=13067721

Cordele, GA (WALB) – A Cordele man is accused of viciously killing a
dog while burglarizing his neighbor's house.

There are new details on the story we told you about last week.
27-year-old John Frank Dunlap is charged with burglary and aggravated
cruelty to animals, both felonies.

Police say Dunlap broke into Michael Shirah's home August 21st, and
stabbed his ten year old toy poodle 'Sheila' at least four times with a
pair of scissors.

A TV, game system, money and jewelry were stolen. Police say they found
all Shirah's stolen items in Dunlap's home.

Dunlap is being held in the Crisp County jail. Shirah's friends say his
arrest has helped Shelia's owners with their grief.

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TOPIC: High School yearbook leads pigs to robbery spiclet
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:39 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.woai.com/news/local/story/High-School-yearbook-leads-police-to-robbery/1Cva6r6RSkKvs9MF0ScHSA.cspx

SAN ANTONIO -- A teenager is behind bars after police were able to track
him down using a high school yearbook. The 17-year-old robbery suspect
was arrested Saturday. Police say he and three others robbed another
teen on South Mittman near Schley on the east side.

According to an arrest warrant obtained by News 4 WOAI, Anthony Tello
went up to the victim and asked to borrow his cell phone. When the
victim handed him the phone, police say Tello put a gun to his head and
demanded his stuff.

The warrant says the victim put his hands up and the four men took his
necklace, wallet, cash, keys and tennis shoes.

The victim told police he recognized the suspect from school. Police
were able to find Tello using a Highlands High School yearbook.

Tello is in the Bexar County Jail charged with aggravated robbery with a
deadly weapon. His bond is set at $75,000.

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TOPIC: Bank nigger sought in Baltimore County
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:44 am
From: Mike Gross

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/blog/2010/08/bank_robber_sought_in_baltimor.html

Baltimore County police just issued this alert about a bank robbery last
week in White Marsh:

Baltimore County Police need the public's help identifying a man
responsible for robbing the Wachovia Bank on August 25 at approximately
4:04 p.m. in the 8800 block of Belair Road, 21236.

The suspect is described as a black male, 30-40 years old, 5'8" tall,
with a medium build and medium complexion. Detectives say that the
suspect entered the bank and walked up to a teller producing a note that
demanded money. The teller gave the suspect an undisclosed amount of
cash, and the robber walked out of the bank.

Anyone with information about the identity or whereabouts of the suspect
is asked to call Baltimore County Police at 410-307-2020 or Metro Crime
Stoppers at 1-866-7-LOCKUP (1-866-756-2587). To text a message to Metro
Crime Stoppers, send to "CRIMES" (274637), then enter the message
starting with "MCS," or e-mail a tip to www.metrocrimestoppers.org.
Those contacting Metro Crime Stoppers can remain anonymous and might be
eligible for a cash reward of up to $2,000.

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TOPIC: Mop headed nigger sought in sexual assault
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:47 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.pantagraph.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_2dc0a670-b45b-11df-83d7-001cc4c002e0.html

NORMAL -- Normal police are looking for a suspect involved in a sexual
assault Friday afternoon in the 200 block of West Shelbourne Avenue.

The male suspect was unknown to the victim and gained entry to the
apartment when the victim opened the front door, according to Normal
police. Authorities were called to the home around 4:45 p.m.

The suspect is described as a black male, 18 to 20 years of age,
standing 5 feet, 10 inches to 6 feet tall with short, braided hair and a
small gap between his two upper middle teeth.

Anyone with information should contact Sgt. Dan Kelley at 309-454-9520
or McLean County Crime Stoppers at 309-828-1111.

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TOPIC: Velcro headed spearchucker forced 15 year old to choose between
prostitution or torture
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:50 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/local/100830-fox-26-story-helps-capture-suspect

BRENHAM, Texas - A fugitive accused of forcing a local teenager to
choose between prostitution or torture was arrested in Brenham.

Christopher Crawford, 24, is charged with aggravated assault causing
serious bodily injury. More charges could follow.

Investigators say Crawford beat the then 15-year-old Shellysia Milton on
and off for the past 3 years if she didn't do what she was told.

Now 18, Milton is permanently scarred - her eye droops and she still
shows signs of visible swelling on her face.

Brenham Police heard about Crawford on a FOX 26 News Report that ran on
Friday, a police spokesman said.

Members of the Fushion Unit sent the information in that report to their
patrol officers.

On Monday around 11:40 a.m., an officer spotted Crawford in the 700
block of Campbell Street and arrested him without incident.

Investigators say Crawford beat the then 15-year-old Shellysia Milton on
and off for the past 3 years if she didn't do what she was told.

Crawford allegedly forced Milton into prostitution every day.

Now 18, Milton is permanently scarred - her eye droops and she still
shows signs of visible swelling on her face.

It is unknown if he'll be extradited to Harris County.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 5:09 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"

"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:dton76h4731l8v30agdr41589pvap9flfu@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 09:46:47 -0500, bob u <sound@inetnebr.com> wrote:
>
>>It really does not matter how much the parts are worth, if you
>>never use them why save them?
>
> I've been trying to clean the office for the last month, with no luck.
> I tend to keep parts and boards so I can cannibalize parts to fix
> other machines. The amount of space this takes is far larger than I'm
> willing to allow. Just calculating the cost per vertical square foot
> component of my office rent is enough to convince me that saving old
> parts is more expensive than just buying new parts. It's a habit of a
> lifetime, and very difficult to break. However, when I find that I
> have to move boxes of junk in order to just make room on the bench for
> new repairs, it's time to clean house. I may regret having tossed
> some handy part or board, but that will come later. Right now, I need
> the space.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com

Oh how I've been there Jeff, how I've been there ... :-(

Arfa

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 5:26 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"

"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in message
news:phnn76d5fjpcls7lfscj6t40hehqnc9db4@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:35:00 -0400, JW <none@dev.null> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:19:44 -0700 Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>wrote in Message id: <ebug76lk13plippid57h6q6vacu8ve4om9@4ax.com>:
>>
>>>I don't believe it. The winner of the power hogging consumer CPU
>>>contest was the DEC/Intel Alpha 21364 (EV79):
>>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_21364>
>>>which burned 155 watts. Itanium II came close with 130 watts (per
>>>core).
>
>>Check again.
>>http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=43410&processor=9350&spec-codes=SLBMX
>>185W! Gotta love that price as well.
>
> I stand corrected.
> <http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18445>
> Some of the reader comments are rather interesting. Still, with any
> of these "powerful" processors, a conventional air cooled machine is
> going to have a very hot breath and a rather large power supply. I
> just don't see this kind of power dissipation in a "dedicated game
> machine". Measuring the AC mains power consumption should settle the
> matter.
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com

Have you any idea just how much processing power it takes to run a
user-interactive story in real time, and then to 3D render the graphics in
real time ? Do you think that they rate the 12v PSU for 23.5 amps in one
version, and 32 amps in the other, for fun ? Those are not real questions,
because I know full well when you stop and think about it, you know the
answers, Jeff.

I've just looked at the rating plate on the bottom of one of the cases, and
it is 240v (nominal UK line voltage) at 1.8 amps. I make that a maximum
input power of around 430 watts. It's a switching PSU, so I reckon that we
can rate that as being at the very worst 80% efficient, so that's still 345
watts potentially going somewhere. I'm prepared to go with 45 watts into
ancillary circuitry on the board, which still leaves around 300 watts going
somewhere. Perhaps I'm being naive, but my best guess is that it's
disappearing into the two bloody great BGAs which the manufacturers are
trying their utmost to heatsink. If you try to run one of these machines
with the heatsinking not in place, it goes into thermal protect in about 5
seconds - and all it's doing then is booting. The heatplates on the BGAs are
at this point hot enough to take your fingerprints off ...

Nope, I'm pretty sure that these two puppies are good for 150 watts apiece,
when the machine is doing some real work.

Arfa

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 9:29 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Daniel Mandic wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
> > Yet you can find both sitting on the side of the road, with steam
> > pouring out from under the hood. :)
>
> Aah, both are outfitted with a wood-carburettor....
> but the Fiesta will drive sooner, and longer ;-)

Really? You have the Fiesta, when you scrap the Ford. :(

--
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enough left over to pay them.

== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 10:22 pm
From: John Doe

Meat Plow <mhywatt yahoo.com> wrote:

> John Doe wrote:
>
>> Specifically, where can I buy a high quality small wheel hub
>> motor (with wheel) like the one used for powered Trikkes?
>>
>> http://www.trikke.com/hd_2/Refurbished-Trikkes/Tribred-E-Kit-Upg
>> rade
>>
>> http://www.trikke.com/CU_frontwheel.jpg
>>
>> Or some other small wheel (16 inches or less) hub motor?
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> Why not buy from the links you posted?

Because that option does not exist.
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>
>
>
> --
> Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse
>
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 10:43 pm
From: Smitty Two

In article <4c7bf737$0$5985$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>,
John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

> Specifically, where can I buy a high quality small wheel hub motor
> (with wheel) like the one used for powered Trikkes?
>
> http://www.trikke.com/hd_2/Refurbished-Trikkes/Tribred-E-Kit-Upgrade
>
> http://www.trikke.com/CU_frontwheel.jpg
>
> Or some other small wheel (16 inches or less) hub motor?
>
> Thanks.

You can buy shit almost anywhere, but if you want the best, there's only
one company.

http://www.heinzmann.de/en

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 31 2010 12:18 am
From: John Doe

Smitty Two <prestwhich earthlink.net> wrote:

How about a high quality small wheel hub motor (with wheel) like
the one used for powered Trikkes?

> but if you want the best, there's only one company.
>
> http://www.heinzmann.de/en

Apparently they are not for sale there.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 7:54 am
From: geoff

In message <-JSdnQSF8IrKI-bRnZ2dnUVZ_q-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Michael A.
Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes
>
>geoff wrote:
>>
>> In message <yKKdnVz7cvv97ObRnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Michael A.
>> Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes
>> >
>> >> ?? ?? Yawn ... zzzzzz Frank Writtle was 'working on them long before
>> >>that;)...
>> >> ?? ?
>> >> ?? ?
>> >> ?? ? So, where are his flying, today?
>> >> ??
>> >> ?? Well thats like saying where are Stevenson's locomotives working today
>> >> ?? then;?.
>> >> ??
>> >> ?? Rather pointless...
>> >> ?
>> >> ?
>> >> ? Yes, you are. Yet you keep trolling.
>> >>
>> >> Do you even know who Sir Frank Whittle was ?
>> >
>> >
>> > Tell me why I should care?
>> >
>> Well you wouldn't, would you?
>>
>> you'd prefer to remain an ignorant septic
>
>
> yawn
>
As I said

--
geoff

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 2:48 pm
From: "Daniel Mandic"

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

> Yet you can find both sitting on the side of the road, with steam
> pouring out from under the hood. :)

Aah, both are outfitted with a wood-carburettor....
but the Fiesta will drive sooner, and longer ;-)

--
Daniel Mandic

== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:08 am
From: Bruce Esquibel

bob u <sound@inetnebr.com> wrote:
> Just taking a pole on whether its work saving parts from tube type big
> screen TV's. I have one i am about to junk or give away. Put new CRT
> and one drive board in it, and it had other issues. sat for years.

> I am clearing space now, and debating if to save anything at all
> or dump it. It seems on the resale market they are virtually
> worthless with the advent of Plasma and LCD big screens.
> The same with CRT based computer monitors. I have a nice 19"
> high end NEC that is working that i cannot sell for $20.

> It really does not matter how much the parts are worth, if you
> never use them why save them?

I don't see the point, I'm pretty confident "they arent going to make a
comeback".

Here in Chicago you can still toss them in the alley and the city will take
them as part of the regular trash pickup. They "suggest" bringing them to a
recycle center, but isn't mandatory as with other major cities.

I hate doing that because the truck guys (can collectors, scrap dudes) will
smash off the back, usually breaking the tube, just to grab the copper off
the defection coil. Then you have a pile of broken glass to deal with.

I had both a 35" Zenith System 3 tv and 21" Mits Diamond Scan monitor and
couldn't give either of them away. Both worked as well as you expected for
their age, needed zero repairs and probably were considered "good
condition". No interest at all.

So why bother parting them out, if no one wants it free, whole and working,
who is going to get one fixed where the parts would of use?

Heh, I still have 3 or 4 console tv's and one Grundig console radio down in
the basement for the same reason, 20 years ago I figured they would be
parted out and worth something.

Now it looks like I have pay 1-800-junk to get rid of them.

-bruce
bje@ripco.com

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:46 am
From: Hugh Jassolle

On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 09:46:47 -0500, bob u wrote:

> Just taking a pole on whether its work saving parts from tube type big
> screen TV's. I have one i am about to junk or give away. Put new CRT and
> one drive board in it, and it had other issues. sat for years.
>
> I am clearing space now, and debating if to save anything at all or dump
> it. It seems on the resale market they are virtually worthless with the
> advent of Plasma and LCD big screens. The same with CRT based computer
> monitors. I have a nice 19" high end NEC that is working that i cannot
> sell for $20.
>
>
>
> It really does not matter how much the parts are worth, if you never use
> them why save them?
>
> opinions?
>
> bob

I would save the new stuff you installed.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 10:04 am
From: Jeff Liebermann

On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 09:46:47 -0500, bob u <sound@inetnebr.com> wrote:

>It really does not matter how much the parts are worth, if you
>never use them why save them?

I've been trying to clean the office for the last month, with no luck.
I tend to keep parts and boards so I can cannibalize parts to fix
other machines. The amount of space this takes is far larger than I'm
willing to allow. Just calculating the cost per vertical square foot
component of my office rent is enough to convince me that saving old
parts is more expensive than just buying new parts. It's a habit of a
lifetime, and very difficult to break. However, when I find that I
have to move boxes of junk in order to just make room on the bench for
new repairs, it's time to clean house. I may regret having tossed
some handy part or board, but that will come later. Right now, I need
the space.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:34 am
From: Jim Yanik

"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in
news:i5gdq0$ppo$1@news.eternal-september.org:

>>>> Acids are what's used to etch porcelain bathtubs for "refinishing"
>>>> with epoxy paints. Even leaving chlorine bleach solution puddled
>>>> on the tub surface will etch it -- I found that out the hard way.
>
>>> Which acid or acids? Decades before I saw "Breaking Bad", I knew
>>> that hydrofluoric acid attacked glass and porcelain. But hydrochloric?
>
>> I recently discovered that caustic soda in an ultrasonic cleaner
>> is capable of etching the glaze off spark plug insulators.
>
> Okay, but we're talking about acids directly applied to porcelain.
>
>

I read that vomit can etch porcelain tile. that's HCl.
saw mention on Google that phosphoric acid etches porcelain.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:43 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"

> I read that vomit can etch porcelain tile. That's HCl.
> I saw mention on Google that phosphoric acid etches
> porcelain.

Don't pour any Diet Coke in the sink!

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 10:00 am
From: Jeff Liebermann

On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 17:56:43 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

>>> We don't have dirty toilets BTW, there are lots of other cleaners,
>>> including "mai cham" (literally hot water), which is a dilute muratic
>>> acid solution.
>
>> That will etch the surface of the porcelain, which will cause
>> particles of defecant to stick to the surface. It's much like using a
>> chemical sandpaper.

>I don't think that's correct. I don't think most acids will attack
>porcelain.
>
>This is all I could find. It isn't clear what the relationship between
>"porcelain enamel" and the porcelain used in bathroom fixtures is.
>
>http://www.porcelainenamel.com/pei503.htm

Googling.... See the "acid resistance" and "alkali resistance"
sections at:
<http://www.porcelainenamel.com/pei503.htm>
The degree of attack by acid solution on porcelain enamels
appears to depend less on the type of solution than on its pH.

"Chemical Resistance of Porcelain Enamel at various Temperature
Levels"
<http://www.zurn.com/operations/specdrain/pages/TechnicalInformation/Receptors/OF52.pdf>
Looks very good for both base and acidic. However, hot ammonium
hydroxide (common household ammonia) looks like a potential problem. I
usually mix the stuff with hot water when washing the floor and dump
it in the toilet. It's not concentrated, but it might cause a problem
because it's warm.

--
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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 12:39 pm
From: Jim Yanik

"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in
news:i5gjjc$llc$1@news.eternal-september.org:

>> I read that vomit can etch porcelain tile. That's HCl.
>> I saw mention on Google that phosphoric acid etches
>> porcelain.
>
> Don't pour any Diet Coke in the sink!
>
>
>

hell,don't pour any down your throat.
carbonated sodas erode(etch) teeth enamel.
I had to stop drinking it because it was giving me heartburn.
I'm just an old fart....

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 9:02 am
From: Fred Abse

On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:39:33 -0500, Dan wrote:

> It could be worse. Those who write music start decomposing when they die.

You can still hear Beethoven, but Beethoven cannot hear you ;-)

--
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over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."
(Richard Feynman)

== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 9:47 am
From: Jeff Liebermann

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:35:00 -0400, JW <none@dev.null> wrote:

>On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:19:44 -0700 Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>wrote in Message id: <ebug76lk13plippid57h6q6vacu8ve4om9@4ax.com>:
>
>>I don't believe it. The winner of the power hogging consumer CPU
>>contest was the DEC/Intel Alpha 21364 (EV79):
>><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_21364>
>>which burned 155 watts. Itanium II came close with 130 watts (per
>>core).

>Check again.
>http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=43410&processor=9350&spec-codes=SLBMX
>185W! Gotta love that price as well.

I stand corrected.
<http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18445>
Some of the reader comments are rather interesting. Still, with any
of these "powerful" processors, a conventional air cooled machine is
going to have a very hot breath and a rather large power supply. I
just don't see this kind of power dissipation in a "dedicated game
machine". Measuring the AC mains power consumption should settle the
matter.

--
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 10:29 am
From: stratus46@yahoo.com

On Aug 27, 6:09 am, Meat Plow <mhyw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
> You answered your own question. The AMD heatsink / quad core Phenom
II 955
> Black Edition package comes with Artic Silver already applied. I'm
using
> an Antec server case that has a hole and tube in the side cover.
The end
> of the tube fits directly over the CPU heat sink so it draws air
directly
> from the outside. In back is a pair of 120mm fans controlled by the
> mainboard. If the CPU temp goes up all three fans increase
according to
> the temp. Or you can set them to run at full speed all the time.
The 650
> watt PSU also has a temp sensing 120mm fan. So the box is really
quiet
> most of the time. But when rendering video and the CPU usage hovers
> around 50% fan speed increases slightly. Video rendering with an
> application that takes advantage of multi-core processors seem to
use the
> most CPU percentage. I've never seen it go over 50%. Most of the
time it
> doesn't go over 10%.
>
> --
> Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

Sony Vegas software will push your processor usage up to nearly 100%
and stay there for minutes. My Phenom II 955 machine normally idles
115-120 Watts but will peak about 100 more while Vegas is rendering a
file. I'm almost tempted to try a 6 core processor to see what
happens.

G²

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 11:01 am
From: Meat Plow

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:29:52 -0700, stratus46 wrote:

> On Aug 27, 6:09 am, Meat Plow <mhyw...@yahoo.com> wrote: <snip>
> > You answered your own question. The AMD heatsink / quad core Phenom
> II 955
> > Black Edition package comes with Artic Silver already applied. I'm
> using
> > an Antec server case that has a hole and tube in the side cover.
> The end
> > of the tube fits directly over the CPU heat sink so it draws air
> directly
> > from the outside. In back is a pair of 120mm fans controlled by the
> > mainboard. If the CPU temp goes up all three fans increase
> according to
> > the temp. Or you can set them to run at full speed all the time.
> The 650
> > watt PSU also has a temp sensing 120mm fan. So the box is really
> quiet
> > most of the time. But when rendering video and the CPU usage hovers
> > around 50% fan speed increases slightly. Video rendering with an
> > application that takes advantage of multi-core processors seem to
> use the
> > most CPU percentage. I've never seen it go over 50%. Most of the
> time it
> > doesn't go over 10%.
> >
> > --
> > Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse
>
> Sony Vegas software will push your processor usage up to nearly 100% and
> stay there for minutes. My Phenom II 955 machine normally idles 115-120
> Watts but will peak about 100 more while Vegas is rendering a file. I'm
> almost tempted to try a 6 core processor to see what happens.
>
> G²

I use Kino in linux to render raw DV capture. Can't find a suitable linux
app to create dvd containers/structure etc.. in linux so I use a fairly
inexpensive app called DVDtoX from VSO. Fast 10x frame rates on VBR video
encoding usually 2000KB/s. Easy to use nice output. tried Sony DVD
Architect trial, more than I needed. Linux is much more efficient at
processor usage but applications aren't up to par.

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 11:23 am
From: John Doe

Specifically, where can I buy a high quality small wheel hub motor
(with wheel) like the one used for powered Trikkes?

http://www.trikke.com/hd_2/Refurbished-Trikkes/Tribred-E-Kit-Upgrade

http://www.trikke.com/CU_frontwheel.jpg

Or some other small wheel (16 inches or less) hub motor?

Thanks.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 11:56 am
From: Meat Plow

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:23:51 +0000, John Doe wrote:

> Specifically, where can I buy a high quality small wheel hub motor (with
> wheel) like the one used for powered Trikkes?
>
> http://www.trikke.com/hd_2/Refurbished-Trikkes/Tribred-E-Kit-Upgrade
>
> http://www.trikke.com/CU_frontwheel.jpg
>
> Or some other small wheel (16 inches or less) hub motor?
>
> Thanks.

Why not buy from the links you posted?

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 7:59 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.wgntv.com/news/wgntv-children-burned-aug24,0,2016686.story

CHICAGO - A 13-year-old boy is charged in the acid attack that severely
burned a 10-year-old boy and an 11-year-old girl.

The suspect was cited in a juvenile delinquency petition, accused of
heinous battery, and turned over to Juvenile Court for processing.

Nala Armstrong, 11, and Adrian Bennett, 10, were hospitalized in serious
condition after having sulfuric acid poured over on them Tuesday
afternoon. It happened just after 2 p.m. at an apartment complex in the
900 block of West Garfield.

The mother of Nala Armstrong said her daughter suffered second and third
degree burns to her entire body after a 13-year-old boy poured a
draino-type acid on her from a second floor porch.

"She's got burns to her head, face, chest and legs, her bracelet even
melted into her wrist," said Gwendolyn Davis.

10-year-old Adrian Bennet suffered burns to his head, neck and back.

"The chemical left black marks on his back," said Loretta Corbett, the
boy's mother.

The suspect's mother said in court Wednesday her son thought he was
tossing only a pail of water.

The mother said the boy had been playing at his cousin's South Side
house Tuesday. She said the kids all play together and they've never had
any problems.

Davis however said her daughter was attacked because she rejected
advances by the 13-year-old boy, the alleged attacker.

But the suspect's aunt, Denise McClendon, says she doesn't believe that.

"He's too young for a girlfriend anyway. He didn't do it intentionally,
he kicked it over and it spilled below into the kids," she says.

Both teens remain hospitalized in the intensive care unit at Comer
Children's hospital but are expected to be transferred to the burn unit.

Dr. Lawrence Gottleib, director of Comer's burn unit, said their burns
could require surgery and more than a week of hospitalization.

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Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:01 am
From: Mike Gross

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/crime-scene/st-marys/st-marys-killing-suspect-caugh.html

Authorities say they caught up with a suspect in a fatal St. Mary's
County shooting at a home in Baltimore.

The St. Mary's County Bureau of Criminal Investigations says police
responded to a reported shooting at a home on Lexwood Drive in Lexington
Park on Saturday.

They found 22-year-old Antonio Nathaniel Pollard Jr. shot in the head.
Pollard later died at a hospital.

Officials say 24-year-old Andrew Allen Carter of Lexington Park fled the
scene before officers arrived.

On Monday, they say detectives and U.S. Marshals found Carter at a home
in Baltimore and arrested him.

Carter faces first-degree murder charges in Pollard's death. Police say
he was wanted on a probation violation in Worchester County on a past
robbery conviction.

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Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:02 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.wmbfnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=13066455

MYRTLE BEACH, SC (WMBF) - Myrtle Beach Police are searching for a man
who they believe is behind a bank fraud incident on Aug. 4.

Capt. David Knipes, spokesman for the Myrtle Beach Police Department,
said the incident occurred at the Conway National Bank, located at 3591
N. Gate Rd. Officials said a man withdrew $300 from an unauthorized account.

Surveillance video taken of the suspect at the bank describes the man as
a black male with a ponytail and goatee.

Anyone with information on the identity of the suspect is asked to call
the Myrtle Beach Police Department immediately.

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Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:10 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/08/nopd_announce_arrest_warrant_f.html

New Orleans Police have obtained an arrest warrant for a suspect in the
death of Brett Thomas, a Gretna police officer who was beaten on Bourbon
Street in June.

Officers are seeking the whereabouts of Joshua Louis Miner, 20. The
warrant accuses him of second degree murder.

Police Superintendent Ronal Serpas announced the warrant at a press
conference this afternoon.

Thomas, 28, was off-duty and was with friends in the 400 block of
Bourbon when a fight broke out after an argument. He was struck once in
the head.

NOPD Homicide Sgt. Daniel McMullen is in charge of the investigation.

Police Superintendent Ronal Serpas announced the warrant at a press
conference this afternoon.

Thomas, 28, was off-duty and was with friends in the 400 block of
Bourbon when a fight broke out after an argument. He was struck once in
the head.

NOPD Homicide Sgt. Daniel McMullen is in charge of the investigation.

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Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:13 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/aug/30/suspect-rape-introduced-himself-victim-forced-her-/

WALTERBORO — Franklin Smalls was picking up his newspaper from his front
yard Sunday morning when he heard someone crying.

Smalls noticed a woman walking down a nearby street. "She was saying,
'Help me. Mister, help me.'"

As she came closer, Smalls realized the woman was naked, holding her
shoes. She recognized Smalls, a city councilman, and told him she had
been raped. His wife immediately got her a nightgown while he called police.

Walterboro police say a man introduced himself to the 62-year-old woman
as she was walking to visit her husband at a nursing home about 8 a.m.

The victim told police she was walking a path from North Lemacks Street
to Sweat Street when a man walked up to her from behind and startled her
about 8 a.m. He held out his hand and identified himself as "Thomas,"
according to an incident report released Monday.

The suspect grabbed her hand, covered her mouth with his other hand and
forced her into the woods where he removed her clothes and sexually
assaulted her, according to the report. The suspect then grabbed her
clothes and ran deeper into the woods.

Her clothes were recovered near where the crime happened, according to
the report. The victim has been released from a local hospital, police said.

The suspect is described as a black male in his 30s or 40s with a dark
complexion, facial hair and a medium haircut. He wore black pants and a
gray or blue T-shirt.

The incident comes on the heels of multiple shootings within the city
over the last year, including a gang-related drive-by shooting last year
that left three people dead. Smalls, a councilman for 20 years, said
they've not had a rape like this in the city before and that these types
of crimes can happen anywhere.

"Walterboro is still a safe place," Smalls said. "When I consider all
the things happening in other places, Walterboro is still a safe place
to visit, a safe place to live."

He said the city has acknowledged and addressed some of the problems its
had. Earlier this year, state agents rounded up several gang members
allegedly connected to the drive-by shooting on Gerideau Street.

"I think we handle it pretty good," he said.

Anyone with information about the suspect is asked to call the police
department at 843-549-1811 or Crime Stoppers at 554-1111.

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Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:16 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/article1118421.ece

TAMPA — Jury selection is underway in the first case against Kendrick
Morris, a 19-year-old accused of raping a teenage girl at the
Bloomingdale library in 2008 and a 61-year-old daycare worker in 2007.

This week, Morris will stand trial in the day care case.

In the early morning of June 28, 2007, at the Children's Lighthouse Day
Care Center in the Clair-Mel area, a masked man with a knife came in
behind a day care worker, ordered her to the floor and asked for money,
she told investigators. She said he made her remove her clothes and
raped her.

The victim ran to the teachers' bathroom, locked herself in and began
yelling and banging on the wall to attract attention. Deputies later
found her naked in the driveway. They were able to collect DNA.

Morris lived three blocks away from the day care.

Authorities said they linked the DNA to Morris that following April,
after he was accused of brutally raping an East Bay High School senior
outside the Bloomingdale library.

In this week's case, he is charged with five counts: Armed burglary of a
structure with assault or battery, attempted robbery with a deadly
weapon, two counts of sexual battery and one of attempted sexual
battery, all with a deadly weapon.

Morris' public defenders have argued that it will be impossible to seat
an impartial jury today because of the extensive media coverage the teen
defendant has gotten. Hillsborough Circuit Judge Chet A. Tharpe denied
their request to move the trial to another city.

Every seat in the courtroom is taken by a potential juror, and attorneys
are beginning to screen the pool of 98.

First order of business: A 16-question form jurors will fill out, in
which they disclose how exposed they have been to coverage. The
questionnaire asks whether they follow the news, how and how often, if
they've ever heard of Kendrick Morris or if they've participated in a
fundraiser for a crime victim.

It asks to circle yes or no for 10 cases, under have you ever read about
or regularly followed any of the following news stories:

"Bayshore rapist."

"Walker Middle School Assault."

"Casey Anthony case."

"Bloomingdale Library Rape."

Attorneys are calling some individual jurors into a back room to
question them.

Alexandra Zayas can be reached at or (813) 226-3354.

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Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:18 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.wakulla.com/Wakulla_News/Local_News/Wakulla_Wal-Mart_Grand_Theft_Thwarted_2010083010610/

A 24-year-old Tallahassee man was charged with grand theft retail at
9:26 p.m. Thursday, Aug. 26 in connection with a theft case at the
Crawfordville Wal-Mart, according to Sheriff David Harvey.

Witnesses in the store reported that Darrell Timothy Hall allegedly left
the store with a latched tote full of merchandise without paying for the
items. Traffic Unit Deputy Will Hudson was conducting an unrelated
traffic stop on U.S. Highway 319 when he observed the suspect vehicle
which had just left the store parking area. He conducted a traffic stop
of Hall's vehicle south of the Leon County line.

Hall told the deputy that he had been at Wal-Mart earlier and did not
have a receipt for the 75 items inside the tote. Deputy Hudson returned
to the store with Hall and matched his suspect with Wal-Mart
surveillance evidence. Three witnesses at the store also provided sworn
affidavits stating they observed the suspect leave the store without
paying for the merchandise which was later valued at $483.

Hall was transported to the Wakulla County Jail where he remains under a
$5,000 bond. Deputy Taff Stokley also investigated.

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Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:21 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/08/30/2187905/fbi-offers-reward-for-suspect.html

The FBI announced a $5,000 reward Monday for information about an
assault on two federal agents earlier this month in Kansas City.

The bureau also released video clips that purport to show Christine
Janna Lane, 22, and an unknown man and woman whom authorities also
believe were involved.

According to court records, Secret Service agents planned to arrest Lane
in an identity theft case Aug. 3 near El Ranchito Auto Sales, 4219 E.
Truman Road. Both agents were dragged by a car as they reached into the
vehicle to prevent Lane from fleeing, a criminal complaint states. One
agent fell and suffered cuts and scrapes.

Anyone with information Lane or the other two should call the TIPS
Hotline at 816-474-TIPS.

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Date: Mon, Aug 30 2010 8:22 am
From: Mike Gross

http://www.walb.com/Global/story.asp?S=13068677

DECATUR COUNTY, GA (WALB) –After more than a week on the run, a murder
suspect is finally behind bars in Decatur County.

Francisco Resendez is charged with the August 20th murder of Shorty
Loredo. Investigators say a fight broke out between Loredo and three
Hispanic men. They say Resendez then stabbed Loredo to death.

A joint effort among Decatur County authorities, the GBI, the US Marshal
service and authorities in Florida led to Resendez's arrest Sunday
afternoon at a mobile home on Dogwood Road near the Florida state line.

Authorities believed Resendez tried to flee the state but did not have
the resources.