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== 1 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 12:01 am
From: "dennis@home"
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:WoednSxKVLEIce_RnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>
> "dennis@home" wrote:
>>
>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:GIednWq1m4RfUe_RnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>
>> >> They have the space shuttle, the only thing faster than that was
>> >> Apollo
>> >> but
>> >> that's old technology borrowed from the Germans.
>> >
>> >
>> > The crappy V2 rockets that they rianed down on gay old England?
>>
>> Well the Saturn V wasn't exactly advanced compared to a V2.
>
>
> Sigh. the Saturn V was a Model A. The V2 was a model T. Both
> designed in the days of slide rules, and poor metalurgy. Tube
> electronics and crude plastics. Do you have anything useful to say?
>
>> They were both more or less the same.
>> However the Russians did have significantly more advanced rocket engines.
>
>
> They built bigger engines, typical of Russian designs. Scale up
> something, then everthing else needed the same.
You don't know much do you?
They actually made smaller engines, it was NASA that scaled them up.
The Russians redesigned them to get more thrust from the same size.
They did build a bigger rocket, they could do this as they had more thrust
available from their better engines.
Did you know that when the US military launched a shuttle they didn't have
boosters with O rings in them?
This was because they were better without the O rings but cost more.
NASA were cheapskates.
>
>> NASA have been using the designs to make their rockets better.
>
>
> Proof?
== 2 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 1:20 am
From: "john hamilton"
"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1jnpvv3.198fblx1re55oiN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
> john hamilton <bluestar95@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
>> To throw a little light on this unnecessary rudeness to our American
>> cousins. The expression Amearkin came up because in the U.S. they could
>> say
>> American so quickly it sounded like Amearkin. So across the pond they
>> became
>> Amearkins...quite harmless.
>>
>> However some low lifes changed this to Merkins.
>
> Well no, they were known as Merkins long before the the term "amearkin"
> and you seem to be a tedious, humourless twot.
>
> Go off and play with the Shermans they seem your sort of people.
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you're wrong as usual
== 3 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 1:25 am
From: The Natural Philosopher
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:26:33 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
> <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>>>> The Concorde was not successful.
>>>> It was... for what it did...
>>> By *no* measure was it successful. It was a money pit.
>> Being a working supersonic transport IS NOT a measure of success?
>
> No. The Edsel was a working automobile, but it was hardly a success.
>
>> Profit is the only valid measure of success?
>
> For products designed for the market, yes.
So, how much money has the space shuttle made?
== 4 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 1:38 am
From: The Natural Philosopher
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
> Sure, if you consider a strong drive to do what others won't, or
> can't. Freedoms you never had in Europe. No overbearing and antiquated
> royal families.
I always find it so amusing when a bunch of convicts, black sheep and
discarded gentry whose morals made them unacceptable in their own
country, plus a bunch of people who were either starving, or whose
religious attitudes were so uptight that they couldn't be tolerated ,
arrive in a place teeming with natural resources (and virtually empty
apart from a few asiatics, who treat them very nicely and help stop them
dying of stupidity), and then proceed to breed like rabbits, commit
genocide on the natives, rape the resources and turn it into the
tackiest example of vulgar ostentation since Eve discovered bling, have
the nerve to assert that the only thing they actually know, making
money, is somehow indicative of superior religious political and moral
standards.
Or that a tradition of racism, genocide and slavery is somehow liberating.
Oh well. It's all over now, baby blue. The resources have run out, and
china wants its cash back.
And those who confuse being in the right place at the right time with
innate superiority, are in for a rude awakening.
== 5 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 3:14 am
From: salty@dog.com
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:57:38 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
<mhywatt@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:39:56 -0400, salty wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:48:48 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>salty@dog.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:47:52 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>>> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dave wrote:
>>>> >> > On 22/08/2010 02:08, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> It was a fast plane, but a poor design.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Fast it was, but poor design NO.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> They spent wads of money to
>>>> >> >> build and maintain them, then junked the entire fleet. It was
>>>> >> >> noisy and very fuel inefficient.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > As is any super fast jet. I should know, I spent many years
>>>> >> > working in that environment.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> That forced the fares so high that they weren't able to compete
>>>> >> >> with better planes from multiple countries.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Lots of passengers enjoyed the fact they could spend the day
>>>> >> > shopping in another continent and be home for tea.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Dave
>>>> >> Oh, come on. Anything designed in England in the 1960s has to leak
>>>> >> oil.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Even their lightbulbs.
>>>>
>>>> Many years ago in a previous life, radio host Don Imus brought me his
>>>> Triumph Motorcycle to look at because the headlight as in fact,
>>>> leaking oil!
>>>>
>>>> Long story short: Bad oil pressure sending unit had it's wire lead
>>>> encased in a plastic spaghetti tube that ran up along the frame to the
>>>> headlight housing. Oil was running up through the spaghetti tubing and
>>>> collecting in the headlight housing. When he parked, it would drip
>>>> out.
>>>
>>>
>>> One look at Imus, and you knew it wasn't hair oil. ;-)
>>
>> He was very well lubricated, himself, back when I knew him.
>
>Are you saying what I think you're saying?
>
>Errr never mind TMI.
He was drinking heavily, like you, Meatpuff.
== 6 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 3:18 am
From: salty@dog.com
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:26:51 -0500, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 19:39:56 -0400, salty@dog.com wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:48:48 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>><mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>salty@dog.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:47:52 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>>>> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >Phil Hobbs wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dave wrote:
>>>> >> > On 22/08/2010 02:08, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> It was a fast plane, but a poor design.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Fast it was, but poor design NO.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> They spent wads of money to
>>>> >> >> build and maintain them, then junked the entire fleet. It was noisy and
>>>> >> >> very fuel inefficient.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > As is any super fast jet. I should know, I spent many years working in
>>>> >> > that environment.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> That forced the fares so high that they weren't
>>>> >> >> able to compete with better planes from multiple countries.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Lots of passengers enjoyed the fact they could spend the day shopping in
>>>> >> > another continent and be home for tea.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Dave
>>>> >> Oh, come on. Anything designed in England in the 1960s has to leak oil.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Even their lightbulbs.
>>>>
>>>> Many years ago in a previous life, radio host Don Imus brought me his
>>>> Triumph Motorcycle to look at because the headlight as in fact,
>>>> leaking oil!
>>>>
>>>> Long story short: Bad oil pressure sending unit had it's wire lead
>>>> encased in a plastic spaghetti tube that ran up along the frame to the
>>>> headlight housing. Oil was running up through the spaghetti tubing and
>>>> collecting in the headlight housing. When he parked, it would drip
>>>> out.
>>>
>>>
>>> One look at Imus, and you knew it wasn't hair oil. ;-)
>>
>>He was very well lubricated, himself, back when I knew him.
>
>But not with oil. He used white, dry, "lubricant". THat was when he was
>funny.
He was drinking copious quantities of vodka in those days, and he
wasn't all that funny in person. In fact, he was quite rude and
unpleasant. His then wife, Harriet, however was a sweetheart, and some
of his friends were fun to be around.
== 7 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 3:23 am
From: salty@dog.com
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:57:25 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>salty@dog.com wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:48:48 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >salty@dog.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:47:52 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
>> >> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >Phil Hobbs wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dave wrote:
>> >> >> > On 22/08/2010 02:08, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> It was a fast plane, but a poor design.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Fast it was, but poor design NO.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> They spent wads of money to
>> >> >> >> build and maintain them, then junked the entire fleet. It was noisy and
>> >> >> >> very fuel inefficient.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > As is any super fast jet. I should know, I spent many years working in
>> >> >> > that environment.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> That forced the fares so high that they weren't
>> >> >> >> able to compete with better planes from multiple countries.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Lots of passengers enjoyed the fact they could spend the day shopping in
>> >> >> > another continent and be home for tea.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Dave
>> >> >> Oh, come on. Anything designed in England in the 1960s has to leak oil.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Even their lightbulbs.
>> >>
>> >> Many years ago in a previous life, radio host Don Imus brought me his
>> >> Triumph Motorcycle to look at because the headlight as in fact,
>> >> leaking oil!
>> >>
>> >> Long story short: Bad oil pressure sending unit had it's wire lead
>> >> encased in a plastic spaghetti tube that ran up along the frame to the
>> >> headlight housing. Oil was running up through the spaghetti tubing and
>> >> collecting in the headlight housing. When he parked, it would drip
>> >> out.
>> >
>> >
>> > One look at Imus, and you knew it wasn't hair oil. ;-)
>>
>> He was very well lubricated, himself, back when I knew him.
>
>
> Teflon in his beer?
He didn't drink beer.
Orange juice in his Vodka.
== 8 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 4:34 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
> krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:26:33 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
> > <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >>>>> The Concorde was not successful.
> >>>> It was... for what it did...
> >>> By *no* measure was it successful. It was a money pit.
> >> Being a working supersonic transport IS NOT a measure of success?
> >
> > No. The Edsel was a working automobile, but it was hardly a success.
> >
> >> Profit is the only valid measure of success?
> >
> > For products designed for the market, yes.
> So, how much money has the space shuttle made?
Dumbass. The shuttle isn't a commercial service. Go back to your
old RV and sleep it off.
== 9 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 4:35 am
From: "dennis@home"
"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:i4uqlg$k7r$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> However the Russians did have significantly more advanced
>> rocket engines. NASA have been using the designs to make
>> their rockets better.
>
> Where do you get this?
Well one of the problems with the big engines NASA was using was getting the
fuel in fast enough.
They did this by fitting big pumps.
Apparently the Russians used a turbine powered by the rocket to achieve it,
something NASA said wasn't possible.
It saved weight and gave more thrust.
What the Russians couldn't do was make stuff well.
>
> The Saturn was unusual, possibly unique, in that it was (apparently) the
> only rocket that never failed.
It wasn't used much though, other rockets don't have a much worse failure
rate, not even the shuttle.
They cancelled the last few Apollo missions, partly to avoid an accident,
they knew they were pushing their luck.
== 10 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 4:38 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"
"dennis@home" wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:WoednSxKVLEIce_RnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> >
> > "dennis@home" wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Well the Saturn V wasn't exactly advanced compared to a V2.
> >
> >
> > Sigh. the Saturn V was a Model A. The V2 was a model T. Both
> > designed in the days of slide rules, and poor metalurgy. Tube
> > electronics and crude plastics. Do you have anything useful to say?
> >
> >> They were both more or less the same.
> >> However the Russians did have significantly more advanced rocket engines.
> >
> >
> > They built bigger engines, typical of Russian designs. Scale up
> > something, then everthing else needed the same.
>
> You don't know much do you?
Do you know anything? Have you ever seen their tools, or how about
the engines they built for their cargo ships.
> They actually made smaller engines, it was NASA that scaled them up.
> The Russians redesigned them to get more thrust from the same size.
>
> They did build a bigger rocket, they could do this as they had more thrust
> available from their better engines.
Really? Do you always state the ovbvious? Their first rockets were
smaller than the US rockets so they didn't need the additional thrust.
> Did you know that when the US military launched a shuttle they didn't have
> boosters with O rings in them?
> This was because they were better without the O rings but cost more.
> NASA were cheapskates.
NASA had budget restrictions.
> >> NASA have been using the designs to make their rockets better.
> >
> >
> > Proof?
== 11 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 4:39 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"
"krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:44:54 -0400, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:18:10 -0500, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
> ><krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 12:49:07 -0400, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:06:46 +0100, "dennis@home"
> >>><dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>"Phil Hobbs" <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:4C71E4B4.9020802@electrooptical.net...
> >>>>
> >>>>> Sorry? Where was supersonic flight first achieved, again/
> >>>>
> >>>>Germany, 1943?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Chuck Yeager, Bell X-1, Muroc Dry Lake, Mojave desert, California,
> >>>USA, October 14, 1947
> >>>The first successfull manned supersonic flight in history.
> >>
> >>First supersonic airplane in level flight. Several broke the sound barrier,
> >>in dives, before the X-1.
> >>
> >A dive isn't flight - it's a "powered fall"
>
> Agreed. ...just wanted to set the record straight before the Europeons came
> unglued, again.
Unfortunately, some of them were 'never' glued. They make the rest
look bad with their constant, mindless ranting. :(
== 12 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 4:43 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
> >
> > Sure, if you consider a strong drive to do what others won't, or
> > can't. Freedoms you never had in Europe. No overbearing and antiquated
> > royal families.
>
> I always find it so amusing when a bunch of convicts, black sheep and
> discarded gentry whose morals made them unacceptable in their own
> country, plus a bunch of people who were either starving, or whose
> religious attitudes were so uptight that they couldn't be tolerated ,
> arrive in a place teeming with natural resources (and virtually empty
> apart from a few asiatics, who treat them very nicely and help stop them
> dying of stupidity), and then proceed to breed like rabbits, commit
> genocide on the natives, rape the resources and turn it into the
> tackiest example of vulgar ostentation since Eve discovered bling, have
> the nerve to assert that the only thing they actually know, making
> money, is somehow indicative of superior religious political and moral
> standards.
>
> Or that a tradition of racism, genocide and slavery is somehow liberating.
>
> Oh well. It's all over now, baby blue. The resources have run out, and
> china wants its cash back.
>
> And those who confuse being in the right place at the right time with
> innate superiority, are in for a rude awakening.
More mindless ranting from the burnt out hippie alcoholic. You might
as well stop setting followup-to: to alt.flame, asshole. I know you
think you're smart, but you've burnt out too many neurons with the pot
and other drugs.
== 13 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 4:45 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"
"krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:57:25 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >salty@dog.com wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:48:48 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> >> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >salty@dog.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:47:52 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> >> >> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Phil Hobbs wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Dave wrote:
> >> >> >> > On 22/08/2010 02:08, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> It was a fast plane, but a poor design.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Fast it was, but poor design NO.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> They spent wads of money to
> >> >> >> >> build and maintain them, then junked the entire fleet. It was noisy and
> >> >> >> >> very fuel inefficient.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > As is any super fast jet. I should know, I spent many years working in
> >> >> >> > that environment.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> That forced the fares so high that they weren't
> >> >> >> >> able to compete with better planes from multiple countries.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Lots of passengers enjoyed the fact they could spend the day shopping in
> >> >> >> > another continent and be home for tea.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Dave
> >> >> >> Oh, come on. Anything designed in England in the 1960s has to leak oil.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Even their lightbulbs.
> >> >>
> >> >> Many years ago in a previous life, radio host Don Imus brought me his
> >> >> Triumph Motorcycle to look at because the headlight as in fact,
> >> >> leaking oil!
> >> >>
> >> >> Long story short: Bad oil pressure sending unit had it's wire lead
> >> >> encased in a plastic spaghetti tube that ran up along the frame to the
> >> >> headlight housing. Oil was running up through the spaghetti tubing and
> >> >> collecting in the headlight housing. When he parked, it would drip
> >> >> out.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > One look at Imus, and you knew it wasn't hair oil. ;-)
> >>
> >> He was very well lubricated, himself, back when I knew him.
> >
> >
> > Teflon in his beer?
>
> No beer. I believe his favorite was vodka and coke. It may have been Gin and
> coke, but it's been 30 years since I listened regularly.
From the way he looks, it looks like he hasn't been 'regular' in 30
years. ;-)
== 14 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 4:45 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"
salty@dog.com wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 23:57:25 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >salty@dog.com wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:48:48 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> >> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >salty@dog.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:47:52 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> >> >> <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Phil Hobbs wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Dave wrote:
> >> >> >> > On 22/08/2010 02:08, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> It was a fast plane, but a poor design.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Fast it was, but poor design NO.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> They spent wads of money to
> >> >> >> >> build and maintain them, then junked the entire fleet. It was noisy and
> >> >> >> >> very fuel inefficient.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > As is any super fast jet. I should know, I spent many years working in
> >> >> >> > that environment.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> That forced the fares so high that they weren't
> >> >> >> >> able to compete with better planes from multiple countries.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Lots of passengers enjoyed the fact they could spend the day shopping in
> >> >> >> > another continent and be home for tea.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Dave
> >> >> >> Oh, come on. Anything designed in England in the 1960s has to leak oil.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Even their lightbulbs.
> >> >>
> >> >> Many years ago in a previous life, radio host Don Imus brought me his
> >> >> Triumph Motorcycle to look at because the headlight as in fact,
> >> >> leaking oil!
> >> >>
> >> >> Long story short: Bad oil pressure sending unit had it's wire lead
> >> >> encased in a plastic spaghetti tube that ran up along the frame to the
> >> >> headlight housing. Oil was running up through the spaghetti tubing and
> >> >> collecting in the headlight housing. When he parked, it would drip
> >> >> out.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > One look at Imus, and you knew it wasn't hair oil. ;-)
> >>
> >> He was very well lubricated, himself, back when I knew him.
> >
> >
> > Teflon in his beer?
>
> He didn't drink beer.
>
> Orange juice in his Vodka.
I was trying to be polite. :)
== 15 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 4:53 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"
The Daring Dufas wrote:
>
> On 8/23/2010 10:49 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >
> > The Daring Dufas wrote:
> >>
> >> On 8/23/2010 2:28 PM, john hamilton wrote:
> >>> "Paul"<23023@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>> news:8d58njF43gU1@mid.individual.net...
> >>>> On 19/08/2010 04:46, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Paul wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 19/08/2010 01:27, The Daring Dufas wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 8/18/2010 6:33 PM, geoff wrote:
> >>>>>>>> In message<i4hmat$blj$2@news.eternal-september.org>, The Daring Dufas
> >>>>>>>> <the-daring-dufas@peckerhead.net> writes
> >>>>>>>>> On 8/18/2010 4:17 PM, geoff wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> In message<i4hhb1$np$1@news.eternal-september.org>, The Daring Dufas
> >>>>>>>>>> <the-daring-dufas@peckerhead.net> writes
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/2010 12:43 PM, john hamilton wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have to connect this AAA battery holder to a toy. Although I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> small
> >>>>>>>>>>>> soldering iron, my soldering skills are poor. I can see myself
> >>>>>>>>>>>> easily
> >>>>>>>>>>>> melting all the plastic around the contacts before I can get
> >>>>>>>>>>>> anything to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> stick to the tabs. (The part of the tabs with the small hole will
> >>>>>>>>>>>> bend
> >>>>>>>>>>>> upwards giving some clearence).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinypic.com/r/iqx3pf/4
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> My immediate plan is to poke a few strands of wire through the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> holes
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> connection tabs twist and then apply some nail varnish to stop it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> unwinding.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Since its a toy it does not need to be totally foolproof.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If anyone had any ideas that were a bit more sophisticated I would
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> gratefull. Thanks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If you are familiar with faston connectors, you can trim the
> >>>>>>>>>>> terminals with scissors or wire cutters so a connector will
> >>>>>>>>>>> slip on to them. The connectors are available in many sizes
> >>>>>>>>>>> with the 1/4" being the most common. I believe The Shack,
> >>>>>>>>>>> formally Radio Shack carries several sizes. Here's a link
> >>>>>>>>>>> to a manufacturer that produces many types so you can see
> >>>>>>>>>>> what I'm referring to:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.etco.com/category.php?cat=18&div=ep&l=e
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Excuse me, but is the OP a Septic or English ?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If he/she/it is English, it's bugger all use pointing them at Septic
> >>>>>>>>>> outlets, is it?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm sorry, I have absolutely no idea what you are writing
> >>>>>>>>> about. Could you find someone to translate it into American?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Septic tank = yank
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> duh - colonials
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Um, the cultural education is nice but what's it got to do
> >>>>>>> with electrical connections to a battery holder? Bizarre is
> >>>>>>> fun but at least I try to keep my jokes within the subject
> >>>>>>> matter being discussed. 8-)
> >>>>>>>> TDD
> >>>>>>>> It was... Radio Shack used to have UK outlets (but seemed to have
> >>>>>> vanished), but the link above was certainly for their US replacement...
> >>>>>>
> >>>> Its a long way to go for a battery holder..
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> Yes. All the way to your mail box. Of course, that may require you
> >>>>> to get out of your chair and actually walk.
> >>>>>
> >>>> And pay three times the value in shipping and taxes
> >>>
> >>> =============================================================================
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks to all. The push on brass connectors are a welcome solution,
> >>> many thanks. I can easily buy those at Maplins.
> >>>
> >>> To throw a little light on this unnecessary rudeness to our American
> >>> cousins. The expression Amearkin came up because in the U.S. they could say
> >>> American so quickly it sounded like Amearkin. So across the pond they became
> >>> Amearkins...quite harmless.
> >>>
> >>> However some low lifes changed this to Merkins. A few hundred years ago in
> >>> order to deal with body lice, ladies would shave their lower private parts.
> >>> Since this was deamed un-attractive, they could buy small triangular wigs
> >>> which were called...you guessed it Merkins. Please dont let the low-lifes
> >>> get you down, we have as many here as you have there. And they just love the
> >>> internet.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Teasing is part of the Usenet experience, if we didn't like you we
> >> wouldn't even respond to you. You get a bunch of guys together and
> >> they are going to throw jabs at each other and kid around. It's
> >> basically what we call horseplay. It's like those celebrity roasts
> >> that are shown on TV, some of the most horrible and vile insults
> >> are thrown about by friends. 8-)
> >
> >
> > And if the 'friends' go too far, you throw them out! ;-)
>
> The only time I've seen that happen is when someone attacks the family
> or children of a nasty poster. I'll pounce and tell them to leave the
> uninvolved folks out of it. One particularly foul individual posted a
> farewell to his grandmother who had just passed away and a rival started
> making fun of the late old woman. I let him know real quick it was in
> bad taste and to direct his anger at Mr. Nasty and not someone who was
> defenseless. There is such a thing as propriety.
I've had online and real life stalkers, and one ass who posted some
lies about my long dead mother. So I asked why he was online, when he
was supposed to be picking up his hooker wife. He was furious, and got
even madder when not one of his cronies agreed with him. Sometimes you
have to hit them with a six foot 2"*4", right between the eyes before
they get the message. He had been making fun of the fact that I'm a
disabled US Army Veteran and bragged that he was exempt from military
service, because he was diabetic. He harped anout it for months, with
others reminding him that he started it. I had dumped him into the bit
bucket, so I only saw it in replies.
== 16 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 4:55 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"
"dennis@home" wrote:
>
> "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:i4uqlg$k7r$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> However the Russians did have significantly more advanced
> >> rocket engines. NASA have been using the designs to make
> >> their rockets better.
> >
> > Where do you get this?
>
> Well one of the problems with the big engines NASA was using was getting the
> fuel in fast enough.
> They did this by fitting big pumps.
> Apparently the Russians used a turbine powered by the rocket to achieve it,
> something NASA said wasn't possible.
> It saved weight and gave more thrust.
> What the Russians couldn't do was make stuff well.
Sigh. Why do you think NASA wouldn't use that turbine powered pump?
The US space program was a lot more safety conscious than Russia's.
> > The Saturn was unusual, possibly unique, in that it was (apparently) the
> > only rocket that never failed.
>
> It wasn't used much though, other rockets don't have a much worse failure
> rate, not even the shuttle.
> They cancelled the last few Apollo missions, partly to avoid an accident,
> they knew they were pushing their luck.
>
>
== 17 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 4:59 am
From: willshak
john hamilton wrote the following:
> "Paul" <23023@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8d58njF43gU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>> On 19/08/2010 04:46, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>
>>> Paul wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 19/08/2010 01:27, The Daring Dufas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/18/2010 6:33 PM, geoff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In message<i4hmat$blj$2@news.eternal-september.org>, The Daring Dufas
>>>>>> <the-daring-dufas@peckerhead.net> writes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/18/2010 4:17 PM, geoff wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In message<i4hhb1$np$1@news.eternal-september.org>, The Daring Dufas
>>>>>>>> <the-daring-dufas@peckerhead.net> writes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 8/16/2010 12:43 PM, john hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have to connect this AAA battery holder to a toy. Although I
>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>> small
>>>>>>>>>> soldering iron, my soldering skills are poor. I can see myself
>>>>>>>>>> easily
>>>>>>>>>> melting all the plastic around the contacts before I can get
>>>>>>>>>> anything to
>>>>>>>>>> stick to the tabs. (The part of the tabs with the small hole will
>>>>>>>>>> bend
>>>>>>>>>> upwards giving some clearence).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://tinypic.com/r/iqx3pf/4
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My immediate plan is to poke a few strands of wire through the
>>>>>>>>>> holes
>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>> connection tabs twist and then apply some nail varnish to stop it
>>>>>>>>>> unwinding.
>>>>>>>>>> Since its a toy it does not need to be totally foolproof.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If anyone had any ideas that were a bit more sophisticated I would
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> gratefull. Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you are familiar with faston connectors, you can trim the
>>>>>>>>> terminals with scissors or wire cutters so a connector will
>>>>>>>>> slip on to them. The connectors are available in many sizes
>>>>>>>>> with the 1/4" being the most common. I believe The Shack,
>>>>>>>>> formally Radio Shack carries several sizes. Here's a link
>>>>>>>>> to a manufacturer that produces many types so you can see
>>>>>>>>> what I'm referring to:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.etco.com/category.php?cat=18&div=ep&l=e
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Excuse me, but is the OP a Septic or English ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If he/she/it is English, it's bugger all use pointing them at Septic
>>>>>>>> outlets, is it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm sorry, I have absolutely no idea what you are writing
>>>>>>> about. Could you find someone to translate it into American?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Septic tank = yank
>>>>>>
>>>>>> duh - colonials
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Um, the cultural education is nice but what's it got to do
>>>>> with electrical connections to a battery holder? Bizarre is
>>>>> fun but at least I try to keep my jokes within the subject
>>>>> matter being discussed. 8-)
>>>>>
>>>>>> TDD
>>>>>> It was... Radio Shack used to have UK outlets (but seemed to have
>>>>>>
>>>> vanished), but the link above was certainly for their US replacement...
>>>>
>>>>
>> Its a long way to go for a battery holder..
>>
>>> Yes. All the way to your mail box. Of course, that may require you
>>> to get out of your chair and actually walk.
>>>
>>>
>> And pay three times the value in shipping and taxes
>>
>
> =============================================================================
>
> Many thanks to all. The push on brass connectors are a welcome solution,
> many thanks. I can easily buy those at Maplins.
>
> To throw a little light on this unnecessary rudeness to our American
> cousins. The expression Amearkin came up because in the U.S. they could say
> American so quickly it sounded like Amearkin. So across the pond they became
> Amearkins...quite harmless.
>
I don't know where in the US they would say 'amearkin'. Not that some
dialect wouldn't say it that way, I just don't know in what region. I
suspect the southern US or inner cities where a lot of the alphabet is
ignored or elided over.
> However some low lifes changed this to Merkins. A few hundred years ago in
> order to deal with body lice, ladies would shave their lower private parts.
> Since this was deamed un-attractive, they could buy small triangular wigs
> which were called...you guessed it Merkins. Please dont let the low-lifes
> get you down, we have as many here as you have there. And they just love the
> internet.
>
>
>
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @
== 18 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 5:28 am
From: The Natural Philosopher
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>>
>>> Sure, if you consider a strong drive to do what others won't, or
>>> can't. Freedoms you never had in Europe. No overbearing and antiquated
>>> royal families.
>> I always find it so amusing when a bunch of convicts, black sheep and
>> discarded gentry whose morals made them unacceptable in their own
>> country, plus a bunch of people who were either starving, or whose
>> religious attitudes were so uptight that they couldn't be tolerated ,
>> arrive in a place teeming with natural resources (and virtually empty
>> apart from a few asiatics, who treat them very nicely and help stop them
>> dying of stupidity), and then proceed to breed like rabbits, commit
>> genocide on the natives, rape the resources and turn it into the
>> tackiest example of vulgar ostentation since Eve discovered bling, have
>> the nerve to assert that the only thing they actually know, making
>> money, is somehow indicative of superior religious political and moral
>> standards.
>>
>> Or that a tradition of racism, genocide and slavery is somehow liberating.
>>
>> Oh well. It's all over now, baby blue. The resources have run out, and
>> china wants its cash back.
>>
>> And those who confuse being in the right place at the right time with
>> innate superiority, are in for a rude awakening.
>
>
> More mindless ranting from the burnt out hippie alcoholic. You might
> as well stop setting followup-to: to alt.flame, asshole. I know you
> think you're smart, but you've burnt out too many neurons with the pot
> and other drugs.
At least I had some to burn out...
== 19 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 5:29 am
From: The Natural Philosopher
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
>
> I was trying to be polite. :)
Good lord. What came over you?
== 20 of 20 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 5:30 am
From: The Natural Philosopher
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> "dennis@home" wrote:
>> "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:i4uqlg$k7r$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> However the Russians did have significantly more advanced
>>>> rocket engines. NASA have been using the designs to make
>>>> their rockets better.
>>> Where do you get this?
>> Well one of the problems with the big engines NASA was using was getting the
>> fuel in fast enough.
>> They did this by fitting big pumps.
>> Apparently the Russians used a turbine powered by the rocket to achieve it,
>> something NASA said wasn't possible.
>> It saved weight and gave more thrust.
>> What the Russians couldn't do was make stuff well.
>
>
> Sigh. Why do you think NASA wouldn't use that turbine powered pump?
> The US space program was a lot more safety conscious than Russia's.
>
>
Shame it didn't stop them killing more people then,.
>
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 4:29 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"
Dan wrote:
>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > Dan wrote:
> >> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >>> Bob Villa wrote:
> >>>> On Aug 23, 2:50 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Bob Villa wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Aug 23, 12:24 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> RichTravsky wrote:
> >>>>>>>> fitz wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Why we have Gravity
> >>>>>>>>> A correct theory of gravity will show us these four (4) things:
> >>>>>>>>> 1. It will show us why gravity also acts like acceleration (principle
> >>>>>>>>> of equvalence).
> >>>>>>>>> 2. It will show us the actual cause of gravity.
> >>>>>>>>> 3. It will show us why gravitational mass and inertial mass are
> >>>>>>>>> identical.
> >>>>>>>>> 4. It will show us the speed of gravitational attraction.
> >>>>>>>>> Newton said gravity was acting at a much faster speed than Einstein.
> >>>>>>>> Well, the average running speed of a human is around 10 mph. Sprints, the
> >>>>>>>> record is under 30 mph. I don't know how athletic Einstein was so we could
> >>>>>>>> use a figure of 3 mph walking speed. Nice to set some lower boundaries
> >>>>>>>> on the SoG (speed of gravity).
> >>>>>>> Slow Old Geezers.
> >>>>>> I resemble that remark!
> >>>>> Admitting it is the first step to recovery! ;-)
> >>>> There is no recovery...slow, old geezers only get slower.
> >>>
> >>> Shut up, and take your medication before the nurse calls the
> >>> orderlies! ;-)
> >> Get off my lawn, you young whippersnapper.
> >
> >
> > Make me! I have to warn you that I'm not afraid to use my VA issued
> > cane.
> >
> >
> > Is that Nurse Ratchet behind you?
>
> No, it's Nurse Diesel and she wants to give you an exam.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 24 2010 4:28 am
From: jaugustine@verizon.net
Hi,
Thanks again to everyone who responded.
Based on information I found searching the web, I returned the TV to the
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John
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:04:58 -0400, in sci.electronics.repair you wrote:
>Hi,
>
> I am a TV service technician working on a Sony LCD TV
>model KDL-32XBR4 with colored vertical lines across the screen.
>I have worked on many CRT TVs, but not many LCD TVs yet.
>
> I don't have the SM for this TV. A web search was not
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>
> Has anyone repaired a problem like this?
>
> Thank You in Advance, John
>
>PS, Remove "ine" from my email address
>
>
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