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Today's topics:

* plasma tv PSU - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/7040ce6f9b2a8504?hl=en
* See Hot Sexy Star Aishwarya Rai Sex Videos - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/2868252db4dabb77?hl=en
* Pioneer 100 disc CD player problems - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/5263ce04af75aa85?hl=en
* Cracking open a Galaxy Audio PA amp - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/8c5766cd3739b009?hl=en
* InovaBrasil - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/b416e96162f2fd2b?hl=en
* Opened laptop battery to replace lithium ion cells (Lenovo X61 tablet PC) --
Where do I get replacement battery cells? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/b825f0a2f4a3f913?hl=en
* Cassette tape component - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/11d09b6898cd0cae?hl=en
* It's Fitzpatrick's RPR - - Relative Phase Relationships: - - Phase Coherence
is the reason for the binding attractive force in ALL the 4 fundamental forces,
Proof of this is in the following: - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/a80c550e642ca649?hl=en

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TOPIC: plasma tv PSU
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/7040ce6f9b2a8504?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 10:29 pm
From: "Michael Kennedy"

"Michael Kennedy" <mike@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Meat Plow" <mhywatt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2010.09.17.14.04.58@hahahahahahahah.nutz.I.am...
>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:54:49 +0900, Michael Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> "Meat Plow" <mhywatt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2010.09.17.12.19.04@hahahahahahahah.nutz.I.am...
>>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:27:49 +0900, Michael Kennedy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just to add to this..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The tv works fine all PSU voltages within specs.. Then it starts
>>>>> clicking a bit and then shuts down. Seems to click when the brightness
>>>>> changes on the TV. (Dark picture to bright picture) and it seems to
>>>>> fail more on bright pictures like cartoons.
>>>>>
>>>>> When it shuts down it wont restart until the power is removed
>>>>> completely. The standby light will change from red to green, but to no
>>>>> avail. The 300V doesn't come up in the PSU. No Vcc only STB voltage.
>>>>> Unplug it plug it back in and comes right up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Poking around with freeze spray on some of the suspect components
>>>>> recomended by the service manual it will shut down, but not instantly
>>>>> as expected. It takes a minute or two...
>>>>>
>>>>> Im puzzled what the clicking soud inside this thing is. It is not the
>>>>> relays and the intensity changes. It always clicks a few times while
>>>>> warming up.
>>>>
>>>> Shotgun the caps in the PSU if you want to go to the time and expense.
>>>> Do the ones in close proximity to hot items like heat sinks, diodes,
>>>> >1watt resistors first. Placement of caps in those locations will
>>>> always give trouble eventually and have much shorter lives. Wish I had
>>>> the set, this is just the kind of troubleshooting challenge I love.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Actually I enjoy it too, although this is my first switcher to fix.. I
>>> just wish I had someone around to learn all the tricks from. If I didn't
>>> enjoy it, I would just watch the tv as is becuase it functions without
>>> issue most of the time or just buy a PSU thats been rebuilt for $70.. I
>>> enjoy fixing anything that gives me a little challenge. This is the
>>> first piece of equipment that I have ever cracked open which had a
>>> sufficinetly detailed service manual.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the tips.
>>
>> You're welcome. I've now repaired 5 >400 watt PC PSUs. Used to just toss
>> them and buy new. A couple friends who saved the failed units gave me
>> these for parts so I decided to have a go at repair. The last unit was a
>> 650 watt PSU that failed after a year. Made a chirp with then AC was
>> plugged in. Grounding the green PSU 'on' wire did nothing. Since I have
>> no ESR meter I took a count of the caps and their values and drove to a
>> local electronics supply store. I also gave the PSU a good visual, tested
>> some obvious fuse-able type resistors and some discrete semiconductors.
>> Also looked for bad solder and signs of hot components, discoloration,
>> you name it...whatever my past experiences had taught me not only with
>> switchers but any high power electronic device. Finding no obvious signs
>> of damages I purchased some replacement caps found in areas I described
>> above. Cost me about $20 US. Took me less than an hour to replace and
>> reassemble. I ended up with a spare 650 watt PSU. My new quad core AMD
>> based PC with a 120 watt CPU needs a minimum 600 watt supply. My NVidia
>> graphics card has a separate 12 volt plug since the PCIe bus cannot
>> deliver enough current. Also have 3 SATA hard drives and two DVD burners.
>> Lots of power hungry devices I don't want to tax a smaller PSU on. Plus I
>> overclock the quad PSU to 4 ghz and that requires a high degree of
>> voltage regulation precision. So not any old PSU will deliver. I've had
>> no problems since I bought the hardware back in July.
>>
>>
>
> On that note.. I just found a blackened cap which is close to a 2w
> resistor which also appears to be black. New resistor and new cap time.

Replaced all the smaller caps around hot areas and it appears to be working
ok,
although this tv still is making a clicking sound when heating up and
cooling down..
It really sounds like a relay, but It is something else.

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TOPIC: See Hot Sexy Star Aishwarya Rai Sex Videos
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/2868252db4dabb77?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 12:00 am
From: pooja kavala


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TOPIC: Pioneer 100 disc CD player problems
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/5263ce04af75aa85?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 3:42 am
From: "Arfa Daily"


"klem kedidelhopper" <captainvideo462009@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ef6124b6-a338-4347-9bb8-4efaef2f8977@q26g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 14, 7:12 pm, s...@repairfaq.org (Samuel M. Goldwasser) wrote:
>> "William R. Walsh" <wm_wa...@hotmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > Hi!
>>
>> > > Can't fault the motor for failing due to crud unless the crud was
>> > > from the motor itself.
>>
>> > I can't think of anywhere else the crud would have come from...my
>> > house isn't immaculate but it's not too dirty either. And all of these
>> > players live in different environments--one is even in a different
>> > building entirely.
>>
>> > The six disc player (oldest of the bunch) was purchased in 2001 with
>> > the problem already evident, so you can't blame my housekeeping for
>> > that! :-)
>>
>> The problem is the drive voltage/current....
>>
>> --
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>> | Mirror Sites:http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_mirror.html
>>
>> Important: Anything sent to the email address in the message header above
>> is
>> ignored unless my full name AND either lasers or electronics is included
>> in the
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>
> I guess that I could monitor the voltage at the motor terminals while
> playing a CD and see if it varies during a skip. Other than that in
> light of what everyone has said regarding the possibilities here how
> would I reliably rule out a motor or laser as the culprit? Lenny.

In my experience, the only way to *reliably* rule out either, is by
substitution. Not very technical, and not, I'm sure, what you probably want
to hear. All I would say is that on the older Pioneers that tend to use a
deck installed upside down, spindle motor trouble is usually characterised
by slow running with sometimes an accompanying 'squeal', or a failure to
start the disc rotating unless you 'help' it. Skipping or general poor
playability, is normally down to either the deck suspension rubbers, or
wrong setup, including the laser output which, contrary to almost any other
laser, is actually included in the setup instructions. I have found it
*extremely* rare to get a laser which is genuinely faulty itself - unless of
course, you include the well known 'lens fallen out' syndrome ...

On the other hand, the later lasers fitted into the multiplay 'jukebox'
machines that employ a deck mounted vertically, I have had trouble with, and
over the years, I have had to replace several.

Arfa


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TOPIC: Cracking open a Galaxy Audio PA amp
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/8c5766cd3739b009?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 8:05 am
From: "polymod"

"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:9qdlo.121242$Hv6.31224@newsfe04.ams2...
>
>
> "polymod" <polymod@optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:4c94c9e3$0$9557$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> >
> > "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
> > news:4c9427e7$0$2441$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
> >> On 9/17/2010 6:42 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:
> >>
> >> > "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
> >> > news:4c92c1a9$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
> >> >
> >> >> Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of
> >> >> Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one
> >> >> side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being
> >> >> Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny
> >> >> Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total
> >> >> slapstick? Worked for Chaplin
> >> >> ...)
> >> >
> >> > You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute
> >> > classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double
> >> > entendre
> >> > with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite risque for
> > British
> >> > TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy Benny Hill for its
pure
> >> > slapstick, the humour was much cruder than that of AYBS.
> >>
> >> Well, not to belabor the point *too* much, but Fawlty Towers was
> >> absolutely sublime compared to either one of those other two shows.
> >
> > Do we have any "Vicar of Dibley" fans?
> > Still one of my favorite shows.
> >
> >> And I have to hand it to your Brits: there has never been *anything* on
> >> television to equal "The Prisoner", and I doubt there will be in my
> >> lifetime.
> >
> > Agreed. as a matter of fact I liked the show so much I named my debut CD
> > after it ;)
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Poly
> >
> >
>
> H.H. ??

Hehe...if you mean Herbie, no it's not that "Prisoner". I wish :)

Poly


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 2:21 pm
From: David Nebenzahl


On 9/18/2010 6:03 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:

> The Prisoner was another interesting one that I saw a documentary about.
> McGoohan said that he originally conceived it as a sort of 'follow on' to
> his character in the long running sixties series "Danger Man".

[snip]

... which was called "Secret Agent Man" over here in the U.S. Good show,
very well conceived and put together, but of course lacking the
surrealism that made The Prisoner so great.


--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 5:46 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"


"polymod" <polymod@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:9qdlo.121242$Hv6.31224@newsfe04.ams2...
>>
>>
>> "polymod" <polymod@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> news:4c94c9e3$0$9557$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> >
>> > "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
>> > news:4c9427e7$0$2441$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>> >> On 9/17/2010 6:42 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:
>> >>
>> >> > "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
>> >> > news:4c92c1a9$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>> >> >
>> >> >> Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of
>> >> >> Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one
>> >> >> side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being
>> >> >> Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny
>> >> >> Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total
>> >> >> slapstick? Worked for Chaplin
>> >> >> ...)
>> >> >
>> >> > You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an
>> >> > absolute
>> >> > classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double
>> >> > entendre
>> >> > with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite risque for
>> > British
>> >> > TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy Benny Hill for its
> pure
>> >> > slapstick, the humour was much cruder than that of AYBS.
>> >>
>> >> Well, not to belabor the point *too* much, but Fawlty Towers was
>> >> absolutely sublime compared to either one of those other two shows.
>> >
>> > Do we have any "Vicar of Dibley" fans?
>> > Still one of my favorite shows.
>> >
>> >> And I have to hand it to your Brits: there has never been *anything*
>> >> on
>> >> television to equal "The Prisoner", and I doubt there will be in my
>> >> lifetime.
>> >
>> > Agreed. as a matter of fact I liked the show so much I named my debut
>> > CD
>> > after it ;)
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> >
>> > Poly
>> >
>> >
>>
>> H.H. ??
>
> Hehe...if you mean Herbie, no it's not that "Prisoner". I wish :)
>
> Poly
>
>

Thought that was too good to be true ... :-)

Arfa


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TOPIC: InovaBrasil
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/b416e96162f2fd2b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 8:27 am
From: Rogerio


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TOPIC: Opened laptop battery to replace lithium ion cells (Lenovo X61 tablet
PC) -- Where do I get replacement battery cells?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/b825f0a2f4a3f913?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 9:59 am
From: Jim Yanik


Joe Schmoe <joeschmoe@somewhere.org> wrote in
news:i73ulu$4e1$2@speranza.aioe.org:

> On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:08:13 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:
>> I thought batteries used in these packs had to be matched to avoid
>> problems with reverse charging etc that might cause them to explode.
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> What do you mean by "matched"?
>
> Note: All the existing electronic circuitry for the Lenovo x61 tablet
> laptop lithium Ion battery is intact.
>
> The only thing we're changing out is old cells for new cells.
>
> What do you mean by "matching"?
>
>

the charge levels and voltage at full charge have to be close to equal.
If one cell is at a lower charge level,it will run out first,then REVERSE
charge,damaging that cell.Possibly shorting,exploding,or starting a fire.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 5:52 pm
From: who where


On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:59:41 -0500, Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov>
wrote:

>Joe Schmoe <joeschmoe@somewhere.org> wrote in
>news:i73ulu$4e1$2@speranza.aioe.org:
>
>> On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:08:13 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:
>>> I thought batteries used in these packs had to be matched to avoid
>>> problems with reverse charging etc that might cause them to explode.
>>
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>> What do you mean by "matched"?
>>
>> Note: All the existing electronic circuitry for the Lenovo x61 tablet
>> laptop lithium Ion battery is intact.
>>
>> The only thing we're changing out is old cells for new cells.
>>
>> What do you mean by "matching"?
>>
>>
>
>the charge levels and voltage at full charge have to be close to equal.
>If one cell is at a lower charge level,it will run out first,then REVERSE
>charge,damaging that cell.Possibly shorting,exploding,or starting a fire.

No, that would only apply to packs without a protection module (such
as NiXX chemistries). LiXX protection modules will intervene and
open-circuit the pack when the lowest cell voltage reaches a
predetermined threshold - usually 3v0.

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TOPIC: Cassette tape component
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/11d09b6898cd0cae?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 3:38 pm
From: Puddin' Man

This was thread "Technics RS-TR255 Cassette Decks" back in Feb., 2010.
Again, thanks for helpful responses "way back when". I come again
begging advice.

I finally found time to putter with my 2 units. In a nutshell, they are
dual decks with a playback/record/auto-reverse deck and a playback-only
deck. On both, the record, etc deck starts to play, then immediately stops.

The fact that I don't *really* know what I'm doing is here deemed to
be "A Mere Detail". :-)

When tested for playback or record, a little .5 x .5 x 1 inch component
on the back of the tape drive, with many, many copper windings, and a
metal shaft in the middle (connected to a plastic actuator) kicks in,
then kicks right back out, evidently preventing the machine from
functioning. Some pics are here:

http://yfrog.com/cbcassetteswitch2j
http://yfrog.com/bhcassetteswitch3j

Is it a switch? Is it a solenoid?

I'd dearly, dearly hate to have to consign -both- cassette machines to the
trash bin. If there is any hope for, say, replacing or re-building the
offending components, I'd much appreciate hearing about it.

Thanks,
P

"Law Without Equity Is No Law At All. It Is A Form Of Jungle Rule."

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 5:44 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"


"Puddin' Man" <puddingDOTman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:764d965r0l0cbh33bk0ru91mg3ci45k4aj@4ax.com...
>
> This was thread "Technics RS-TR255 Cassette Decks" back in Feb., 2010.
> Again, thanks for helpful responses "way back when". I come again
> begging advice.
>
> I finally found time to putter with my 2 units. In a nutshell, they are
> dual decks with a playback/record/auto-reverse deck and a playback-only
> deck. On both, the record, etc deck starts to play, then immediately
> stops.
>
> The fact that I don't *really* know what I'm doing is here deemed to
> be "A Mere Detail". :-)
>
> When tested for playback or record, a little .5 x .5 x 1 inch component
> on the back of the tape drive, with many, many copper windings, and a
> metal shaft in the middle (connected to a plastic actuator) kicks in,
> then kicks right back out, evidently preventing the machine from
> functioning. Some pics are here:
>
> http://yfrog.com/cbcassetteswitch2j
> http://yfrog.com/bhcassetteswitch3j
>
> Is it a switch? Is it a solenoid?
>
> I'd dearly, dearly hate to have to consign -both- cassette machines to the
> trash bin. If there is any hope for, say, replacing or re-building the
> offending components, I'd much appreciate hearing about it.
>
> Thanks,
> P

It's the cam control solenoid. Works the latch that releases the cam gear to
allow it to be driven to its next phase. As to the fault, check any tape
presence sense switches that it may have - normally 'leaf' types in a clear
plastic protection 'sleeve' mounted at the top edge of the deck, and also
check that the belt which drives the take up spool is good. It's very common
on Technics decks for that belt to go 'elastic' and slip.

Arfa

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 19 2010 8:23 pm
From: Puddin' Man


On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 01:44:23 +0100, "Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>It's the cam control solenoid. Works the latch that releases the cam gear to
>allow it to be driven to its next phase.

Many thanks. These things can look strange if you've not seen them
before.

>As to the fault, check any tape
>presence sense switches that it may have - normally 'leaf' types in a clear
>plastic protection 'sleeve' mounted at the top edge of the deck,

There's about 5 of 'em, 2 for write-protect and 3 for <???>. I ran compressed
air thru, but couldn't figger how to get the plastic cover off. The
copper leaves *look* OK, but ...

Do you know ... do the plastic covers just slip off, or does one
need to unsolder, or ???

>and also
>check that the belt which drives the take up spool is good. It's very common
>on Technics decks for that belt to go 'elastic' and slip.

I'd better just replace that one. Might take a while to find a
replacement.

Thanks,
P

"Law Without Equity Is No Law At All. It Is A Form Of Jungle Rule."


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TOPIC: It's Fitzpatrick's RPR - - Relative Phase Relationships: - - Phase
Coherence is the reason for the binding attractive force in ALL the 4
fundamental forces, Proof of this is in the following:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/a80c550e642ca649?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 20 2010 12:10 am
From: fitz


It's Fitzpatrick's RPR - - Relative Phase Relationships: - - Phase
Coherence is the reason for the binding attractive force in ALL the 4
fundamental forces, Proof of this is in the following:

Our space is built up by the average amount elements are out of phase
with each other.

Repulsive forces are generated between elements that are out of phase
more than this average.

While elements more in phase, than this average (phase coherence),
produce attractive forces.

http://www.amperefitz.com/phase.coherence.htm

Click link above -- Science!


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