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== 1 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 3:22 am
From: Ron


On 18/09/2010 02:51, Arfa Daily wrote:
>
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:EfOdncPXBpejRQ7RnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>>
>> Ron wrote:
>>>
>>> I rest my case milud
>>
>>
>> So, the 'Preparation H' finally worked for you?
>>
>>
>> --
> Ah ! American humour. Right ? :-)
>
> Arfa

Tho I don't count myself as being one of them, there surely are a lot of
sore arses on this group. ;)

Ron


== 2 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 3:23 am
From: Ron


On 18/09/2010 03:46, David Nebenzahl wrote:
> On 9/17/2010 6:42 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:
>
>> "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
>> news:4c92c1a9$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>>
>>> Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of
>>> Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one
>>> side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being
>>> Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny
>>> Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total
>>> slapstick? Worked for Chaplin
>>> ...)
>>
>> You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute
>> classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double
>> entendre with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite
>> risque for British TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy
>> Benny Hill for its pure slapstick, the humour was much cruder than
>> that of AYBS.
>
> Well, not to belabor the point *too* much, but Fawlty Towers was
> absolutely sublime compared to either one of those other two shows.
>
> And I have to hand it to your Brits: there has never been *anything* on
> television to equal "The Prisoner", and I doubt there will be in my
> lifetime.
>
>
Shame about the remake!

Ron


== 3 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 3:28 am
From: spam@spam.com (Don Pearce)


On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 11:23:31 +0100, Ron <ron@lunevalleyaudio.com>
wrote:

>On 18/09/2010 03:46, David Nebenzahl wrote:
>> On 9/17/2010 6:42 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:
>>
>>> "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
>>> news:4c92c1a9$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>>>
>>>> Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of
>>>> Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one
>>>> side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being
>>>> Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny
>>>> Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total
>>>> slapstick? Worked for Chaplin
>>>> ...)
>>>
>>> You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute
>>> classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double
>>> entendre with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite
>>> risque for British TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy
>>> Benny Hill for its pure slapstick, the humour was much cruder than
>>> that of AYBS.
>>
>> Well, not to belabor the point *too* much, but Fawlty Towers was
>> absolutely sublime compared to either one of those other two shows.
>>
>> And I have to hand it to your Brits: there has never been *anything* on
>> television to equal "The Prisoner", and I doubt there will be in my
>> lifetime.
>>
>>
>Shame about the remake!

That remark can be applied pretty much universally.

d


== 4 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 4:04 am
From: "Arfa Daily"


"Ron" <ron@lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote in message
news:35adnSleVZq9DgnRnZ2dnUVZ8uOdnZ2d@bt.com...
> On 18/09/2010 03:46, David Nebenzahl wrote:
>> On 9/17/2010 6:42 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:
>>
>>> "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
>>> news:4c92c1a9$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>>>
>>>> Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of
>>>> Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one
>>>> side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being
>>>> Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny
>>>> Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total
>>>> slapstick? Worked for Chaplin
>>>> ...)
>>>
>>> You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute
>>> classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double
>>> entendre with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite
>>> risque for British TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy
>>> Benny Hill for its pure slapstick, the humour was much cruder than
>>> that of AYBS.
>>
>> Well, not to belabor the point *too* much, but Fawlty Towers was
>> absolutely sublime compared to either one of those other two shows.
>>
>> And I have to hand it to your Brits: there has never been *anything* on
>> television to equal "The Prisoner", and I doubt there will be in my
>> lifetime.
>>
>>
> Shame about the remake!
>
> Ron

Yes. That bordered on the criminal. I survived I think one and a half
episodes, before deleting it from my planner ...

Arfa

== 5 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 4:09 am
From: "Arfa Daily"


"Klaatu" <nospam@forme.com> wrote in message
news:gqGdnQBcDfhL_QnRnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
> news:4c92c1a9$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>> On 9/16/2010 6:03 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:
>>
>>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> And you still don't get American humor. ;-)
>>>
>>> Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-}
>>
>> Nah, all our humor comes from the UK: Monty Python, Dame Edna, Eddy
>> Izzard, Tracy Ullman, etc.
>>
>> Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of
>> Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one side we
>> have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being Served?" (which I
>> despise); on the other are those who like Benny Hill. I'm in the latter
>> camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total slapstick? Worked for Chaplin
>> ...)
>>
>>
>> --
>> The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
>> with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.
>>
>> - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)
>
>
> And where do those who like "Absolutely Fabulous" fit in?

Ab Fab was a very 'special' kind of humour that would only ever have worked
with those four main characters, who sparked off each other in a unique way.
I think that this is often the case for why remakes, as well as covers of
classic songs, often don't work. The original story or song, is written with
an actor or set of actors or singer in mind, and because of this, work well,
and become classics. Often, you can hear a song or see a film for the first
time, and just know that it will still be playing in 30 years time.

There are of course exceptions to this, but they are so few as to admirably
prove the rule.

Arfa

>


== 6 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 4:20 am
From: "Arfa Daily"


"David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
news:4c9427e7$0$2441$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
> On 9/17/2010 6:42 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:
>
>> "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
>> news:4c92c1a9$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>>
>>> Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of
>>> Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one
>>> side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being
>>> Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny
>>> Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total
>>> slapstick? Worked for Chaplin
>>> ...)
>>
>> You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute
>> classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double entendre
>> with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite risque for
>> British TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy Benny Hill for
>> its pure slapstick, the humour was much cruder than that of AYBS.
>
> Well, not to belabor the point *too* much, but Fawlty Towers was
> absolutely sublime compared to either one of those other two shows.
>
> And I have to hand it to your Brits: there has never been *anything* on
> television to equal "The Prisoner", and I doubt there will be in my
> lifetime.
>
>
> --

Again, the actual humour in Fawlty Towers was not that 'classic'. It worked
so well because it was written by Cleese himself, in conjunction with Connie
Booth, with whom I understand he was having a relationship. The 'supporting'
actors were chosen carefully to 'fit in', and did so admirably well. Much of
the individual episodes were also ad-lib'd at the time of shooting, and
according to a documentary I saw about the making of it, most scenes were
little - if any at all - rehearsed. Cleese said that the episodes were
basically written on a week by week basis, and took on average no more than
10 minutes to conceive and structure, and produce the scripted dialogue for.
So what was actually produced, is a testament to the writing, acting, and
creativity skills of the main characters.

Interestingly, there was only ever 12 episodes. Everyone always thinks that
there was a lot more. Prunella Scales was actually amused by it all. She
said that over a very long career, she has played many many parts in TV,
film and theatre, including some really 'heavyweight' parts. And yet the one
thing that she is always remembered for, is her part as the long suffering
wife of Basil ...

Arfa

== 7 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 6:37 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Ron wrote:
>
> On 18/09/2010 02:51, Arfa Daily wrote:
> >
> >
> > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:EfOdncPXBpejRQ7RnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> >>
> >> Ron wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I rest my case milud
> >>
> >>
> >> So, the 'Preparation H' finally worked for you?
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> > Ah ! American humour. Right ? :-)
> >
> > Arfa
>
> Tho I don't count myself as being one of them, there surely are a lot of
> sore arses on this group. ;)


Some are easily inflamed, too! ;-)


--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.


== 8 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 7:13 am
From: "polymod"

"David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
news:4c9427e7$0$2441$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
> On 9/17/2010 6:42 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:
>
> > "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
> > news:4c92c1a9$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
> >
> >> Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of
> >> Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one
> >> side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being
> >> Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny
> >> Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total
> >> slapstick? Worked for Chaplin
> >> ...)
> >
> > You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute
> > classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double entendre
> > with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite risque for
British
> > TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy Benny Hill for its pure
> > slapstick, the humour was much cruder than that of AYBS.
>
> Well, not to belabor the point *too* much, but Fawlty Towers was
> absolutely sublime compared to either one of those other two shows.

Do we have any "Vicar of Dibley" fans?
Still one of my favorite shows.

> And I have to hand it to your Brits: there has never been *anything* on
> television to equal "The Prisoner", and I doubt there will be in my
> lifetime.

Agreed. as a matter of fact I liked the show so much I named my debut CD
after it ;)

Cheers!

Poly


== 9 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 7:26 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"


> Cleese said the episodes were basically written on a week-
> by week basis, and took on average no more than 10 minutes
> to conceive and structure, and produce the scripted dialogue for.

I suspect it took longer to come up with the anagram.

"Fawlty Towers" was a good series, but not up to the best British and
American sitcoms. My favorite was "Basil the Rat" [sic], but that's probably
because I like sweet li'l critters.


== 10 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 8:26 am
From: thanatoid


"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in
news:9g1lo.186340$zA5.24875@newsfe16.ams2:

<snip>

> Again, the actual humour in Fawlty Towers was not that
> 'classic'. It worked so well because it was written by
> Cleese himself, in conjunction with Connie Booth, with whom
> I understand he was having a relationship. The 'supporting'
> actors were chosen carefully to 'fit in', and did so
> admirably well. Much of the individual episodes were also
> ad-lib'd at the time of shooting, and according to a
> documentary I saw about the making of it, most scenes were
> little - if any at all - rehearsed. Cleese said that the
> episodes were basically written on a week by week basis,
> and took on average no more than 10 minutes to conceive and
> structure, and produce the scripted dialogue for. So what
> was actually produced, is a testament to the writing,
> acting, and creativity skills of the main characters.
>
> Interestingly, there was only ever 12 episodes. Everyone
> always thinks that there was a lot more. Prunella Scales
> was actually amused by it all. She said that over a very
> long career, she has played many many parts in TV, film and
> theatre, including some really 'heavyweight' parts. And yet
> the one thing that she is always remembered for, is her
> part as the long suffering wife of Basil ...

Thanks for the interesting info. I believe those 6 hrs or so are
among the most brilliant stuff ever made for the idiot box in
ANY country ever - and I am familiar with TV in several very
different countries.


--
"Anytime I hear the word "culture", I reach for my iPad."
- 21st Century Humanoid


== 11 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 9:19 am
From: "George Jetson"


"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:G51lo.186339$zA5.104908@newsfe16.ams2...
>
>
> "Klaatu" <nospam@forme.com> wrote in message
> news:gqGdnQBcDfhL_QnRnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
>> news:4c92c1a9$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>>> On 9/16/2010 6:03 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:
>>>
>>>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> And you still don't get American humor. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-}
>>>
>>> Nah, all our humor comes from the UK: Monty Python, Dame Edna, Eddy
>>> Izzard, Tracy Ullman, etc.
>>>
>>> Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of
>>> Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one side we
>>> have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being Served?" (which I
>>> despise); on the other are those who like Benny Hill. I'm in the latter
>>> camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total slapstick? Worked for
>>> Chaplin ...)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
>>> with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.
>>>
>>> - Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)
>>
>>
>> And where do those who like "Absolutely Fabulous" fit in?
>
> Ab Fab was a very 'special' kind of humour that would only ever have
> worked with those four main characters, who sparked off each other in a
> unique way. I think that this is often the case for why remakes, as well
> as covers of classic songs, often don't work. The original story or song,
> is written with an actor or set of actors or singer in mind, and because
> of this, work well, and become classics. Often, you can hear a song or see
> a film for the first time, and just know that it will still be playing in
> 30 years time.
>
> There are of course exceptions to this, but they are so few as to
> admirably prove the rule.
>
> Arfa
>
>>

Feck! don't forget father ted.

--
They can have my command prompt when they pry it from my cold dead fingers.

== 12 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 6:03 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"


"polymod" <polymod@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:4c94c9e3$0$9557$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>
> "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
> news:4c9427e7$0$2441$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>> On 9/17/2010 6:42 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:
>>
>> > "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
>> > news:4c92c1a9$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>> >
>> >> Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of
>> >> Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one
>> >> side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being
>> >> Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny
>> >> Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total
>> >> slapstick? Worked for Chaplin
>> >> ...)
>> >
>> > You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute
>> > classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double
>> > entendre
>> > with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite risque for
> British
>> > TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy Benny Hill for its pure
>> > slapstick, the humour was much cruder than that of AYBS.
>>
>> Well, not to belabor the point *too* much, but Fawlty Towers was
>> absolutely sublime compared to either one of those other two shows.
>
> Do we have any "Vicar of Dibley" fans?
> Still one of my favorite shows.
>
>> And I have to hand it to your Brits: there has never been *anything* on
>> television to equal "The Prisoner", and I doubt there will be in my
>> lifetime.
>
> Agreed. as a matter of fact I liked the show so much I named my debut CD
> after it ;)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Poly
>
>

The Prisoner was another interesting one that I saw a documentary about.
McGoohan said that he originally conceived it as a sort of 'follow on' to
his character in the long running sixties series "Danger Man". However, he
never really had any clear idea exactly where it was going, and in fact it
took on a sort of life of its own, and started dragging him and the rest of
the writers with it, to the point where he had no idea how to end it. It
finally finished with the epic episode "Fallout", which I seem to recall was
a 'double' over two weeks. It's funny how it has also kept its appeal across
the generations. Some years back when my son was I guess probably about
fourteen, they showed it again in its entirety, and he was totally riveted
to it every week. This showed clearly that the story and character stood in
their own right, as he had never seen or heard of the original Danger Man
character.

I really have no idea why anyone should have thought that they could remake
this iconic series, taking liberties with the original plotline, and setting
it in Africa, with an American as the central character. The original
setting of the folly village of Portmeirion in north Wales, was central to
the concept, and could never be successfully changed.

Arfa

== 13 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 6:07 pm
From: "Bill Graham"

"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:ONUko.318313$aI3.283547@newsfe05.ams2...
>
>
> "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
> news:4c92c1a9$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>> On 9/16/2010 6:03 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:
>>
>>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> And you still don't get American humor. ;-)
>>>
>>> Wot ! You mean there is such a thing ... ? d:-}
>>
>> Nah, all our humor comes from the UK: Monty Python, Dame Edna, Eddy
>> Izzard, Tracy Ullman, etc.
>>
>> Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of
>> Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one side we
>> have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being Served?" (which I
>> despise); on the other are those who like Benny Hill. I'm in the latter
>> camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total slapstick? Worked for Chaplin
>> ...)
>>
>>
>
>
> You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute
> classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double entendre
> with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite risque for
> British TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy Benny Hill for its
> pure slapstick, the humour was much cruder than that of AYBS.
>
> Arfa

One of my favorite Benny Hill sequences was the one where he was the movie
director, and the scene was a couple in a gazebo. He told them to kiss, and
then told her to look down, (demurely) and say, "And what is this thing
called, "love".

So: Camera....Action....And they kiss, and she looks down and says, (in a
heavy cockney accent) "And what is THIS thing called, love?

== 14 of 14 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 6:10 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"


"polymod" <polymod@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:4c94c9e3$0$9557$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>
> "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
> news:4c9427e7$0$2441$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>> On 9/17/2010 6:42 PM Arfa Daily spake thus:
>>
>> > "David Nebenzahl" <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote in message
>> > news:4c92c1a9$0$2406$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...
>> >
>> >> Ackshooly, I've been saying for years that there are two types of
>> >> Americans distinguishable by their taste for Brit humor. One one
>> >> side we have the PBS-type humor, exemplified by "Are You Being
>> >> Served?" (which I despise); on the other are those who like Benny
>> >> Hill. I'm in the latter camp myself. (Hey, what's better than total
>> >> slapstick? Worked for Chaplin
>> >> ...)
>> >
>> > You really shouldn't dis 'Are You Being Served ?' It was an absolute
>> > classic up there with the likes of Fawlty Towers ... The double
>> > entendre
>> > with things like Mrs Slocombe's pussy, were really quite risque for
> British
>> > TV at the time. Although I used to really enjoy Benny Hill for its pure
>> > slapstick, the humour was much cruder than that of AYBS.
>>
>> Well, not to belabor the point *too* much, but Fawlty Towers was
>> absolutely sublime compared to either one of those other two shows.
>
> Do we have any "Vicar of Dibley" fans?
> Still one of my favorite shows.
>
>> And I have to hand it to your Brits: there has never been *anything* on
>> television to equal "The Prisoner", and I doubt there will be in my
>> lifetime.
>
> Agreed. as a matter of fact I liked the show so much I named my debut CD
> after it ;)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Poly
>
>

H.H. ??

Arfa


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TOPIC: Opened laptop battery to replace lithium ion cells (Lenovo X61 tablet
PC) -- Where do I get replacement battery cells?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/b825f0a2f4a3f913?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 8:08 am
From: "Brian Gaff"


I thought batteries used in these packs had to be matched to avoid problems
with reverse charging etc that might cause them to explode.

Brian

--
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graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them
Email: briang1@blueyonder.co.uk
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"JoeSchmoe" <nospamjoeschmoe@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Have you ever opened up your laptop battery to replace the lithium ion
> cells inside (if so, I could use the help as I'm stuck).
>
> Here are the pictures of the operation on a Lenovo X61 tablet PC 8-cell
> 4500 amp-hour battery kidney-transplant operation.
>
> The outside of the IBM Lenovo X61 tablet PC battery pack has the part
> numbers:
> - FRU 42T4507
> - ASM 42T5209
>
> And the batteries themselves, seem to have numbers on them of:
> - cylinders BCM 3A6 72653
> - rectangles C 3 171353
>
> Any idea where to obtain these lithium ion replacement batteries?


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 7:12 pm
From: who where


On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:08:13 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
<Briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>I thought batteries used in these packs had to be matched to avoid problems
>with reverse charging etc that might cause them to explode.

Matched - No. Assuming you install them with the correct polarity and
the protection module is functioning correctly, the explosion risks
are from another category. There is also a connection sequence for
attaching the module to the series-connected cells. IIRC it starts at
the most positive terminal and progresses to the negative end last.

But matching IS important in that the protection module monitors cell
voltage DIFFERENCES. This has a two-fold effect. If the diffences
exceed a certain threshold value, the pack will be disabled by the
module. Below that threshold value, end-of-charge voltage will be
determined by the highest cell voltage (which leaves the others less
than fully charged) while end-of-discharge is conversely determined by
the lowest cell voltage. So as the differential increases the usable
capacity reduces in the interests of safety.


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 8:04 pm
From: Joe Schmoe


On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 22:52:38 -0700, isw wrote:
> Google around and you can find references to building a simple
> spot-welder for batteries -- check the RC model airplane folks.

Hi Isaac,

Welding the tabs without destroying the battery the biggest gotcha so
this home made battery tab spot welder DIY idea is great!

The Poor Man's Battery Tab Welder
http://www.philpem.me.uk/elec/welder/
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=763308

Build your own CD battery tab welder for $100
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=179937

DIY Capacitive Discharge Spot Welder, AKA Battery pack maker
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/MrWestie/7032

How to hack a dead laptop battery
http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to-hack-dead-laptop-battery-250860/

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 8:05 pm
From: Joe Schmoe


On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 16:08:13 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:
> I thought batteries used in these packs had to be matched to avoid
> problems with reverse charging etc that might cause them to explode.

Hi Brian,

What do you mean by "matched"?

Note: All the existing electronic circuitry for the Lenovo x61 tablet
laptop lithium Ion battery is intact.

The only thing we're changing out is old cells for new cells.

What do you mean by "matching"?


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TOPIC: CTC 187 strange volume problem
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/db930b344d3fc777?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 6:03 pm
From: klem kedidelhopper


On Sep 12, 9:56 am, Meat Plow <mhyw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 18:25:59 -0700, klem kedidelhopper wrote:
> > On Sep 11, 2:56 pm, Meat Plow <mhyw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 11:45:29 -0700, klem kedidelhopper wrote:
> >> > I got a CTC 187 in with a complaint that after five minutes or so the
> >> > volume gradually decreases by itself. I was thinking possibly tact
> >> > switches but someone else said that it could be a bad eprom. I was
> >> > wondering how one might go about isolating this problem?. I ran this
> >> > set for a few days and never noticed a problem with the sound. I was
> >> > about to call the guy and have him pick it up and suggest that
> >> > perhaps the problem was the cable box  when I mistakenly went to bed
> >> > one night and left it running in the shop. I woke up the next morning
> >> > and realizing that the set was on the first thing I noticed was that
> >> > there was no sound coming from the shop. I took a look at the screen
> >> > and noticed that every 2 or 3 seconds a volume bar would appear then
> >> > disappear as thouh the set was being addressed by either the front
> >> > panel tact switch or the remote. The volume indicator would show the
> >> > sound to be all the way down each time it would appear as it indeed
> >> > was. I tried raising the sound up and although the volume bar
> >> > appeared and it did increment up it then afterwards immediatly slowly
> >> > incremented down by itself.agsin. I haven't opened this thing yet as
> >> > I really wanted to confirm his complaint first. Now that I have and
> >> > considering what I've observed, does anyone think that the presence
> >> > of the volume bar points to a leaky tact switch? Or could the volume
> >> > bar and subsequent function activation be initiated by either a bad T
> >> > chip or the processor? . I guess what I'm wondering is if there is
> >> > any way that the set could produce a volume bar without the
> >> > appropriate infrafed signal coming through the IR receiver or the
> >> > chip being addressed directly through the tact switch? Thanks, Lenny
>
> >> Unplug the IR receiver and tact switches ( P/J3001)then retest.
>
> >> --
> >> Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > The tact switches seem to be the general  consensus here. I really
> > appreciate the advice. I have a theory on this problem that I would like
> > to share. I also service commercial apartment house intercom systems.
> > The apartment stations used in these systems are simply a 45 ohm speaker
> > and three NO pushbutton switches. The switches are: "talk", "listen" and
> > "door", (The last of which buzzes the front door solenoid to let people
> > into the building.
>
> > Quite often I'm called out to one of these buildings to troubleshoot
> > what seems like an impossibla weird problem. It may be that the lobby
> > door solenoid is buzzing constantly, or perhaps the lobby speaker is
> > crackling, or sometimes you find that you can listen to someones
> > apartment constantly through the lobby speaker. Every apartment station
> > sits on a three wire common trunk line so natually the occurance of any
> > of these problems disables the entire building.
>
> > Many of these apartment stations use a form of a tact switch that just
> > fails at tmes for no reason. Disconnecting that problem apartment
> > station from the common trunk line in every case restores proper
> > intercom function through the building. One particular 24 unit complex I
> > service has four trunk wires in parallel each serving 6 apartments.Once
> > I've isolated the problem down to a particular trunk line or group of
> > six I will ask the building manager who the smokers are in those six
> > apartments. Nine times ot of ten the problem switches are in the station
> > that has been exposed to heavy doses of tar and nicotine.
>
> > My theory is that the smoke residue or the dust that clings to it must
> > be conductive and therefore provides a high resistace short across the
> > open switch. This has happened on more than one occaision so I don't
> > believe that it is coincidence.
>
> >    As it happens this TV customer is a heavy smoker too. The chassis
> > had a thick "blanket" of
> >    sticky dust that I had to blow off with my vacuum cleaner before I
> > could even put this on my bench.
> >    For fifteen years this guy has been blowing smoke at this set. I
> > think that it finally suffocated. Just
> >    a theory. What do you think? Lenny
>
> Since the tact switches are N.O. you can easily prove them to be
> contaminated. They plug directly into the MPU as does the IR-RX.
>
> I have been on house calls of heavy smokers. Everything is covered with
> tar. I too smoke, maybe 6 or 7 cigs a day. I own two Hunter QuietFlo
> 30736 tower air purifiers that are on here 24/7. Really keeps the dust
> down and no sign of any tar. Your theory is solid. And easy to confirm.
>
> --
> Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

I found a thick film of yellow,brownish sticky residue on the board.
Dust sticking on the HV wires and yoke looked like feathers. I have to
move these sets out of the shop and blow them out with the vacuum
before I can even work on them. I replaced all the switches on this
one and cleaned the control board with 99% isopropyl . The problem
seems to have abated. Qtips were completely brown, sadly, probably the
same color as his lungs. Thanks for listening. Lenny

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 6:10 pm
From: klem kedidelhopper


On Sep 14, 7:12 pm, s...@repairfaq.org (Samuel M. Goldwasser) wrote:
> "William R. Walsh" <wm_wa...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> > Hi!
>
> > > Can't fault the motor for failing due to crud unless the crud was
> > > from the motor itself.
>
> > I can't think of anywhere else the crud would have come from...my
> > house isn't immaculate but it's not too dirty either. And all of these
> > players live in different environments--one is even in a different
> > building entirely.
>
> > The six disc player (oldest of the bunch) was purchased in 2001 with
> > the problem already evident, so you can't blame my housekeeping for
> > that! :-)
>
> The problem is the drive voltage/current....
>
> --
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>  Repair | Main Table of Contents:http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/
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>
> Important: Anything sent to the email address in the message header above is
> ignored unless my full name AND either lasers or electronics is included in the
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I guess that I could monitor the voltage at the motor terminals while
playing a CD and see if it varies during a skip. Other than that in
light of what everyone has said regarding the possibilities here how
would I reliably rule out a motor or laser as the culprit? Lenny.

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TOPIC: Philips DPTV330F Strange Problems
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/56a52c559dcbe6ae?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 8:19 pm
From: stratus46@yahoo.com


On Sep 15, 11:27 am, "Chris F." <zappy...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>   I recently acquired this set, hoping fix it up for resale. Initially, when
> power was pressed it just kept cycling on and off and would not start up. I
> tried disconnecting a wiring harness which supplies power to the convergence
> IC's, and the set now powered - but only to a bright red screen, and it shut
> down after about 5 seconds perhaps because it sensed an error. At this point
> I presumed that one of the convergence IC's may be shorted, and ordered some
> new ones. After installing them, the set powers up but only for about 10-15
> seconds, then shuts down. An image is present but the convergence is badly
> distorted, and the controls (CH, VOL +/-) are unresponsive. Nothing appears
> to be overheating but obviously the set is sensing some kind of
fault. What
> would be the next thing to look for at this point?
>   Thanks for any advice.

The bad electrolytic capacitors.

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TOPIC: plasma tv PSU
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 18 2010 10:29 pm
From: "Michael Kennedy"

"Michael Kennedy" <mike@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Meat Plow" <mhywatt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2010.09.17.14.04.58@hahahahahahahah.nutz.I.am...
>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:54:49 +0900, Michael Kennedy wrote:
>>
>>> "Meat Plow" <mhywatt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2010.09.17.12.19.04@hahahahahahahah.nutz.I.am...
>>>> On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 15:27:49 +0900, Michael Kennedy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just to add to this..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The tv works fine all PSU voltages within specs.. Then it starts
>>>>> clicking a bit and then shuts down. Seems to click when the brightness
>>>>> changes on the TV. (Dark picture to bright picture) and it seems to
>>>>> fail more on bright pictures like cartoons.
>>>>>
>>>>> When it shuts down it wont restart until the power is removed
>>>>> completely. The standby light will change from red to green, but to no
>>>>> avail. The 300V doesn't come up in the PSU. No Vcc only STB voltage.
>>>>> Unplug it plug it back in and comes right up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Poking around with freeze spray on some of the suspect components
>>>>> recomended by the service manual it will shut down, but not instantly
>>>>> as expected. It takes a minute or two...
>>>>>
>>>>> Im puzzled what the clicking soud inside this thing is. It is not the
>>>>> relays and the intensity changes. It always clicks a few times while
>>>>> warming up.
>>>>
>>>> Shotgun the caps in the PSU if you want to go to the time and expense.
>>>> Do the ones in close proximity to hot items like heat sinks, diodes,
>>>> >1watt resistors first. Placement of caps in those locations will
>>>> always give trouble eventually and have much shorter lives. Wish I had
>>>> the set, this is just the kind of troubleshooting challenge I love.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Actually I enjoy it too, although this is my first switcher to fix.. I
>>> just wish I had someone around to learn all the tricks from. If I didn't
>>> enjoy it, I would just watch the tv as is becuase it functions without
>>> issue most of the time or just buy a PSU thats been rebuilt for $70.. I
>>> enjoy fixing anything that gives me a little challenge. This is the
>>> first piece of equipment that I have ever cracked open which had a
>>> sufficinetly detailed service manual.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the tips.
>>
>> You're welcome. I've now repaired 5 >400 watt PC PSUs. Used to just toss
>> them and buy new. A couple friends who saved the failed units gave me
>> these for parts so I decided to have a go at repair. The last unit was a
>> 650 watt PSU that failed after a year. Made a chirp with then AC was
>> plugged in. Grounding the green PSU 'on' wire did nothing. Since I have
>> no ESR meter I took a count of the caps and their values and drove to a
>> local electronics supply store. I also gave the PSU a good visual, tested
>> some obvious fuse-able type resistors and some discrete semiconductors.
>> Also looked for bad solder and signs of hot components, discoloration,
>> you name it...whatever my past experiences had taught me not only with
>> switchers but any high power electronic device. Finding no obvious signs
>> of damages I purchased some replacement caps found in areas I described
>> above. Cost me about $20 US. Took me less than an hour to replace and
>> reassemble. I ended up with a spare 650 watt PSU. My new quad core AMD
>> based PC with a 120 watt CPU needs a minimum 600 watt supply. My NVidia
>> graphics card has a separate 12 volt plug since the PCIe bus cannot
>> deliver enough current. Also have 3 SATA hard drives and two DVD burners.
>> Lots of power hungry devices I don't want to tax a smaller PSU on. Plus I
>> overclock the quad PSU to 4 ghz and that requires a high degree of
>> voltage regulation precision. So not any old PSU will deliver. I've had
>> no problems since I bought the hardware back in July.
>>
>>
>
> On that note.. I just found a blackened cap which is close to a 2w
> resistor which also appears to be black. New resistor and new cap time.

Replaced all the smaller caps around hot areas and it appears to be working
ok,
although this tv still is making a clicking sound when heating up and
cooling down..
It really sounds like a relay, but It is something else.


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