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* Cracking open a Galaxy Audio PA amp - 15 messages, 9 authors
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* Virus Enables New Wave Of Rechargeable Batteries - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Hakko 472 component values? - 6 messages, 3 authors
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* Cable box is making a ticking noise - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* FS: Rare Texas Instruments TIL306 Numeric Display w/Logic NOS - 1 messages,
1 author
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TOPIC: Cracking open a Galaxy Audio PA amp
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/8c5766cd3739b009?hl=en
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== 1 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 12:32 pm
From: zekfrivo@zekfrivolous.com (GregS)

In article <4c8db73c$0$2395$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com>, David Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> wrote:
>I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't get
>the damn amp open.
>
>It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough little
>unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged plastic
>(polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand. Similar to
>this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the chassis has
>6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed, but I
>still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the case,
>thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no luck, and
>I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case.
>
>Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit?

I would like to see a pic of the rear which i can't find.
I often have to uncover hidden screws in things.
I also have to do alot of prying on things.

greg

== 2 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 12:51 pm
From: bob u

On 9/13/2010 12:32 AM, David Nebenzahl wrote:
> I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't get
> the damn amp open.
>
> It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough little
> unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged plastic
> (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand. Similar to
> this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the chassis has
> 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed, but I
> still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the case,
> thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no luck, and
> I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case.
>
> Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit?
>
>
I have a Core PA5X140 hot spot sitting in front of me.
single 5" speaker with amp built in. It really did not want
to open either. It has 6 screws on the front.
a screw on the back. On this unit, there are 1/4" phone jacks on the
rear. These are connected to the internal circuit board. SO, the lock
nuts MUST be taken off the phone jacks before you start the removal process.

On this one, the front face is inset down into the rear shell. My guess
is stictation or such is a factor. First on this unit, i gently pried
around the deal with a razer blade. Then i used a very small flat blade
screw driver to try to break loose the case from the front. Then i kind
of beat on it to see if gravity would help it separate (face down). I
eventually got it apart, but it did not want to easily separate.

bob

== 3 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 1:03 pm
From: Ron Weston

>There's a diecast metal front panel which covers the entire front of the
>unit, with a deeply set grille for the speaker. Six screws attach the
>metal panel to the plastic cabinet.
>
>The plastic cabinet is ONE PIECE, totally seamless, covering the
>remaining 5 sides. So it's not a clamshell like most remotes or
>similarly packaged electronics.

Many years ago, I had to take apart a Philbrick K2-XA (those of you
old enough to remember this op-amp will realize how long ago). I
couldn't figure it out and called the factory. One of the engineers
told me the plastic case came in two halves and they were glued
together at the factory. The cases were so cheap that when a unit came
back for repair the case was split with a chisel, and after the repair
was complete a new case was glued on.

== 4 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 1:47 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Arfa Daily wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:BNCdnXxrdILq2Q3RnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@earthlink.com...
> >
> > David Nebenzahl wrote:
> >>
> >> I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't get
> >> the damn amp open.
> >>
> >> It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough little
> >> unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged plastic
> >> (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand. Similar to
> >> this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the chassis has
> >> 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back I removed, but I
> >> still can't get the chassis out of the case. I tried prying the case,
> >> thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no luck, and
> >> I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the case.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit?
> >
> >
> > At least no one has suggested a Plsma Cutter! ;-)
> >
>
> Nah! "Angle grinder" as they always say over on uk.d-i-y :-)

Angle grinders are for amateurs and wimps. It takes a real prow to
cut something open with a plasma cutter and still have anything left to
repair. :)

--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.

== 5 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 1:48 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Dick Pierce wrote:
>
> >>>Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit?
> >>
> >>
> > At least no one has suggested a Plasma Cutter! ;-)
> > Nah! "Angle grinder" as they always say over on uk.d-i-y
> > diamond saws
> > endoscopes
> > ring cutters
> > drop it
> > tap it with a screwdriver handle
> > unscrew it
> > screw it
>
> Explosives. Now THAT'S the ticket!

Primacord.

--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.

== 6 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 1:48 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Arny Krueger wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in
> message news:BNCdnXxrdILq2Q3RnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@earthlink.com
> > David Nebenzahl wrote:
> >>
> >> I inherited a repair job that I can't get started
> >> because I can't get the damn amp open.
> >>
> >> It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a
> >> tough little unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set
> >> into a thick rugged plastic (polypropylene?) case, that
> >> can sit on top of a mike stand. Similar to this one:
> >> http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of the
> >> chassis has 6 screws into the case, and there's one on
> >> the back I removed, but I still can't get the chassis
> >> out of the case. I tried prying the case, thinking there
> >> might be some cast-in lugs I could open, but no luck,
> >> and I didn't want to risk chewing up the edge of the
> >> case.
> >>
> >> Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit?
> >
> >
> > At least no one has suggested a Plasma Cutter! ;-)
>
> IME diamond saws are a more readily available and economical alternative.
> This is one of the major changes in tooling of this millennium - industrial
> diamonds are now so inexpensive that tools that effectively employ them are
> readily available in most big-box home improvement stores. That all said,
> this product seems to be composed of materials that are too soft and too
> temperature sensitive for effective cutting by diamond-tipped tools or
> plasma cutters.

A diamond saw? Save that to remodel your bathroom. :)

--
Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is
enough left over to pay them.

== 7 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 4:02 pm
From: "William Sommerwerck"

>> Not everyone knows everything about anything. It's interesting
>> that, even though you haven't seen the unit, you know "fer sure"
>> how it fits together.

> Yes I'm sure because it makes sense. Unless you can think
> of something else that makes sense.

I like to say I would rather be wrong because I express a carefully
considered point of view, than right because I agree with everyone else. So
on that basis, I'm on your side.

I suspect that, as I said in the preceding post, something is badly stuck
and won't come loose. By "stuck", I do /not/ mean "held in place with
clips". I mean "jammed in some way".

== 8 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 4:13 pm
From: thanatoid

"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in
news:i6r02h$b71$1@news.eternal-september.org:

>>> I'm sure most people in this group have noticed how
>>> remote controls are generally held together with screws
>>> /and/ near- unreleasable tabs. I've never understood why
>>> both are needed.
>
>> No, it's not, and you're misunderstanding the packaging
>> here.
>
> My point was about the /philosophy/ of the packaging. Why
> belts+suspenders, when only one is needed?

Because an average remote gets dropped at least a few times a
week (my statistics), and is occasionally thrown at various
inanimate objects and assorted life forms.

--
"Anytime I hear the word "culture", I reach for my iPad."
- 21st Century Humanoid

== 9 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 4:28 pm
From: Jamie

David Nebenzahl wrote:

> On 9/15/2010 9:52 AM William Sommerwerck spake thus:
>
>> This product appears to be the pro-audio equivalent of most remote
>> controls.
>>
>> I'm sure most people in this group have noticed how remote controls are
>> generally held together with screws /and/ near-unreleasable tabs. I've
>> never
>> understood why both are needed.
>
>
> No, it's not, and you're misunderstanding the packaging here.
>
> There's a diecast metal front panel which covers the entire front of the
> unit, with a deeply set grille for the speaker. Six screws attach the
> metal panel to the plastic cabinet.
>
> The plastic cabinet is ONE PIECE, totally seamless, covering the
> remaining 5 sides. So it's not a clamshell like most remotes or
> similarly packaged electronics.
>
>
it most likely has a sealant between the front and plastic case to
prevent vibration at the seem, which is common with that type of
construction.. These things will stick like mild glue..

With the screws half way, wrap the unit in a soft wrap of some kind
like foam rubber so you don't scratch it, rest it on a pillow and use
something like a piece of wood to hit lightly against the screws that
are half way out.. The shock should push on the plastic behind and break
the bond!.

== 10 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 4:23 pm
From: "William Sommerwerck"

"thanatoid"

What a handle -- "the form of death".

== 11 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 6:08 pm
From: "Arfa Daily"

"Jamie" <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Rwcko.4403$FK1.2169@newsfe21.iad...
> David Nebenzahl wrote:
>
>> On 9/15/2010 9:52 AM William Sommerwerck spake thus:
>>
>>> This product appears to be the pro-audio equivalent of most remote
>>> controls.
>>>
>>> I'm sure most people in this group have noticed how remote controls are
>>> generally held together with screws /and/ near-unreleasable tabs. I've
>>> never
>>> understood why both are needed.
>>
>>
>> No, it's not, and you're misunderstanding the packaging here.
>>
>> There's a diecast metal front panel which covers the entire front of the
>> unit, with a deeply set grille for the speaker. Six screws attach the
>> metal panel to the plastic cabinet.
>>
>> The plastic cabinet is ONE PIECE, totally seamless, covering the
>> remaining 5 sides. So it's not a clamshell like most remotes or similarly
>> packaged electronics.
>>
>>
> it most likely has a sealant between the front and plastic case to
> prevent vibration at the seem, which is common with that type of
> construction.. These things will stick like mild glue..
>
> With the screws half way, wrap the unit in a soft wrap of some kind
> like foam rubber so you don't scratch it, rest it on a pillow and use
> something like a piece of wood to hit lightly against the screws that are
> half way out.. The shock should push on the plastic behind and break
> the bond!.
>
>

Ha! I was just about to come in with exactly the same observation, and you
beat me to it ! Quite a few of these powered speakers follow that general
style of construction, and it's common for something like the self adhesive
draught excluder foam strip that you fit around door and window frames, to
be used to form an airtight seal between the ally casting and the heavy
plastic case. It's not uncommon for this stuff to stick like a bitch when
it's been clamped up in that joint for a few years. If there genuinely is
just the six screws holding the front to the case, then likely as not, the
answer is just going to be brute force. Is there even the tiniest gap that
you could perhaps get something like a wide wood chisel into to see if you
can spring the plastic away from the metal a little ?

Arfa

== 12 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 6:12 pm
From: thanatoid

"William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in
news:i6rkjd$uaa$1@news.eternal-september.org:

> "thanatoid"
>
> What a handle -- "the form of death".

Wow, I certainly DO appreciate you explaining it to me!

Sigh.

--
"Anytime I hear the word "culture", I reach for my iPad."
- 21st Century Humanoid

== 13 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 7:49 pm
From: "William Sommerwerck"

>> "thanatoid"
>> What a handle -- "the form of death".

> Wow, I certainly DO appreciate you explaining
> it to me! Sigh.

I wasn't explaining it... I was acknowledging it. Clever.

== 14 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 10:10 pm
From: David Nebenzahl

On 9/15/2010 12:51 PM bob u spake thus:

> On 9/13/2010 12:32 AM, David Nebenzahl wrote:
>
>> I inherited a repair job that I can't get started because I can't
>> get the damn amp open.
>>
>> It's a Galaxy Audio Core PA5X140 all-in-one PA. It's a tough little
>> unit, with a die-cast metal chassis set into a thick rugged
>> plastic (polypropylene?) case, that can sit on top of a mike stand.
>> Similar to this one: http://galaxyaudio.com/MSPA.jsp. The front of
>> the chassis has 6 screws into the case, and there's one on the back
>> I removed, but I still can't get the chassis out of the case. I
>> tried prying the case, thinking there might be some cast-in lugs I
>> could open, but no luck, and I didn't want to risk chewing up the
>> edge of the case.
>>
>> Does anyone have any idea how to open up this unit?
>
> I have a Core PA5X140 hot spot sitting in front of me. single 5"
> speaker with amp built in. It really did not want to open either. It
> has 6 screws on the front. a screw on the back. On this unit, there
> are 1/4" phone jacks on the rear. These are connected to the internal
> circuit board. SO, the lock nuts MUST be taken off the phone jacks
> before you start the removal process.
>
> On this one, the front face is inset down into the rear shell. My guess
> is stictation or such is a factor. First on this unit, i gently pried
> around the deal with a razer blade. Then i used a very small flat blade
> screw driver to try to break loose the case from the front. Then i kind
> of beat on it to see if gravity would help it separate (face down). I
> eventually got it apart, but it did not want to easily separate.

Thanks for the first and only really helpful reply in this whole damn
thread.

You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Sure enough, removing the nut
from the phone jack allowed the whole unit to slip rather easily out of
the case (I used a heavy knife blade betwixt the case and chassis to
start it).

The amp appears to be fine; there's either a problem with the XLR mike
input jack, or with the mike cable we were using. (Can't test because I
have no XLR plugs.)

Thanks again.

--
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with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)

== 15 of 15 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 10:19 pm
From: David Nebenzahl

On 9/15/2010 1:03 PM Ron Weston spake thus:

>> There's a diecast metal front panel which covers the entire front
>> of the unit, with a deeply set grille for the speaker. Six screws
>> attach the metal panel to the plastic cabinet.
>>
>> The plastic cabinet is ONE PIECE, totally seamless, covering the
>> remaining 5 sides. So it's not a clamshell like most remotes or
>> similarly packaged electronics.
>
> Many years ago, I had to take apart a Philbrick K2-XA (those of you
> old enough to remember this op-amp will realize how long ago). I
> couldn't figure it out and called the factory. One of the engineers
> told me the plastic case came in two halves and they were glued
> together at the factory. The cases were so cheap that when a unit came
> back for repair the case was split with a chisel, and after the repair
> was complete a new case was glued on.

Heh; I'm totally not familiar with this device (almost old enough to be,
though), so when reading this I had visions of splitting open a 14-pin
DIP with a chisel, fixing it and gluing it back together.

Now *that* would be some repair.

--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

- Comment from an article on Antiwar.com (http://antiwar.com)

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TOPIC: Virus Enables New Wave Of Rechargeable Batteries
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/c9fb934c9aa1b941?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 12:38 pm
From: bob u

http://electronicdesign.com/article/components/virus_enables_new_wave_of_rechargeable_batteries.aspx?nl=1

bob

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TOPIC: Hakko 472 component values?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/1c9ff9388b00a649?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 12:40 pm
From: den

Ignore the village idiot named below.

>
> I AM PROTEUS

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 1:39 pm
From: I AM PROTEUS

On Sep 15, 3:40 pm, den <d...@densnet.com> wrote:
> Ignore the village idiot named below.
>
>
>
>
>
> > I AM PROTEUS

THAT WOULD BE YOU DENTRITE

YOU HAVE ALL BECOME IDIOTS

YOUR RESPONSES TO POSTS WOULD BE FUNNY IF THIS WAS A COMEDIC VENUE
BUT INSTEAD THEY ARE PATHETIC AND AMATUER LIKE

YOU WOULD BENEFIT FROM DISPLAYING SOME RESPECT

IAP

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 3:57 pm
From: den

On Sep 15, 1:39 pm, I AM PROTEUS <proteus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 15, 3:40 pm, den <d...@densnet.com> wrote:
>
> > Ignore the village idiot named below.
>
> > > I AM PROTEUS
>
> THAT WOULD BE YOU DENTRITE
>
> YOU HAVE ALL BECOME IDIOTS
>
> YOUR RESPONSES TO POSTS WOULD BE FUNNY IF THIS WAS A COMEDIC VENUE
> BUT INSTEAD THEY ARE PATHETIC AND AMATUER LIKE
>
> YOU WOULD BENEFIT FROM DISPLAYING SOME RESPECT
>
> IAP

Respect what?
According to your profile you are an asshole no matter which newsgroup
you crap in.
Dave sparkyguy442 (the yahoo place) asked a simple question, and it
is possible that someone in this group can help him. That is (by the
way) what this group is about. Helping each other, NOT having to skip
past your self worshiping drooling drivel. Crawl back under your slimy
rock. Nobody will miss you. Trust me on this. This nation was built
on lab rats who kept on asking questions until answers were
discovered. What nation do you germinate in?

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 4:40 pm
From: I AM PROTEUS

On Sep 15, 6:57 pm, den <d...@densnet.com> wrote: SOME ANAL RANT
TRYING TO SOUND SMART.
BUT NO! YOU ARE A SICKO A CHEAPSHOT BITCH CRUISING FOR A CHEAP THRILL
YOU MUST WANT A CUSTOM ASS REAMING
YOU WRITE LIKE A SCORNED WOMAN
A BITCH NEEDING A RECKONING

DO NOT TRY TO REASON WITH ME FOOL

YOU WILL DIE IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SICK COWARDLY GAME YOU HAVE BERN
PLAYING
YOU ARE SO MISERABLE AND WRONG YOU ONLY COME HERE TO FOOL YOURSELF
INTO A FALSE SENSE OF DIGNITY BY INSULING THOSE ABOVE YOUR LOW LIFE
LEVEL OF ELECTRICITY
YOU HAVE NEVER HELPED ANYONE BUT YOURSELF

YOU DO NOT EVEN RESPECT YOUR PROFESSION
YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR YOURSELF
OR THIS GROUP YOU INDIPID FOOL

YOU ARE THE ASSHOLE AND A CHEATING WHORE SNIVELING AND GIGGLING IN
HIDING
AND THE ONLY SCUMMY SLIME HERE THAT NEEDS TO SLITHER AWAY IS YOU

YOU OWN A CHEAP WHOREHOUSE - NOT THIS GROUP

THIS IS RICH BITCH
IF YOU REALLY WANT THE GROUP THAT BAD
SHOVE IT UP YOUR AAS
YOU BUMB

IAP

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 6:31 pm
From: "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:57:16 -0700 (PDT), den <den@densnet.com> wrote:

>On Sep 15, 1:39 pm, I AM PROTEUS <proteus...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 15, 3:40 pm, den <d...@densnet.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Ignore the village idiot named below.
>>
>> > > I AM PROTEUS
>>
>> THAT WOULD BE YOU DENTRITE
>>
>> YOU HAVE ALL BECOME IDIOTS
>>
>> YOUR RESPONSES TO POSTS WOULD BE FUNNY IF THIS WAS A COMEDIC VENUE
>> BUT INSTEAD THEY ARE PATHETIC AND AMATUER LIKE
>>
>> YOU WOULD BENEFIT FROM DISPLAYING SOME RESPECT
>>
>> IAP
>
>Respect what?
>According to your profile you are an asshole no matter which newsgroup
>you crap in.
>Dave sparkyguy442 (the yahoo place) asked a simple question, and it
>is possible that someone in this group can help him. That is (by the
>way) what this group is about. Helping each other, NOT having to skip
>past your self worshiping drooling drivel. Crawl back under your slimy
>rock. Nobody will miss you. Trust me on this. This nation was built
>on lab rats who kept on asking questions until answers were
>discovered. What nation do you germinate in?

Make everyone happy and killfile the troll. All you're doing is playing into
his needs, and short-circuiting everyone else's killfile.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 6:55 pm
From: I AM PROTEUS

On Sep 15, 9:31 pm, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:57:16 -0700 (PDT), den <d...@densnet.com> wrote:
> >On Sep 15, 1:39 pm, I AM PROTEUS <proteus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sep 15, 3:40 pm, den <d...@densnet.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Ignore the village idiot named below.
>
> >> > > I AM PROTEUS
>
> >> THAT WOULD BE YOU DENTRITE
>
> >> YOU HAVE ALL BECOME IDIOTS
>
> >> YOUR RESPONSES TO POSTS WOULD BE FUNNY IF THIS WAS A COMEDIC VENUE
> >> BUT INSTEAD THEY ARE PATHETIC AND AMATUER LIKE
>
> >> YOU WOULD BENEFIT FROM DISPLAYING SOME RESPECT
>
> >> IAP
>
> >Respect what?
> >According to your profile you are an asshole no matter which newsgroup
> >you crap in.
> >Dave sparkyguy442 (the yahoo place)  asked a simple question, and it
> >is possible that someone in this group can help him. That is (by the
> >way)  what this group is about. Helping each other, NOT having to skip
> >past your self worshiping drooling drivel. Crawl back under your slimy
> >rock. Nobody will miss you. Trust me on this.  This nation was built
> >on lab rats who kept on asking questions until answers were
> >discovered. What nation do you germinate in?
>
> Make everyone happy and killfile the troll.  All you're doing is playing into
> his needs, and short-circuiting everyone else's killfile.

GO BACK TO YOUR COCAINE PIPE KEITHTARD
NOBODY CARES
YOU TWO FACED BACK STABBING BASTARD

IAP

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TOPIC: Cable box is making a ticking noise
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/be39a9de968f64c0?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 4:19 pm
From: Jamie

Mike wrote:

>
> "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote:
>
>
>>Mike wrote:
>>
>>>I opened the box yesterday, didn't see anything that looked like a relay.
>>>
>>
>>Generally the ticking noise is a self destructing swithing powersupply. Some sort
>>of internal fault detection (or a fault itself) is causing it to shut off, and
>>then after it resets, it trys again.
>>
>>This causes the oscillator to start up again, and makes the core of the
>>transformer "click".
>>
>>Checking capacitors is a good idea, they are often at fault.
>>
>>Occasionaly, they have enough juice stored in the filter caps that it stays
>>on without being noticed as a failure.
>>
>>We had a combination satellite box and pvr that did it for the last 3 years.
>>It still worked fine until it reached over 100F here (first time in the
>>14 years I've been here), when it crashed.
>>
>>Since our cable bill included insurance on the unit, they came out and replaced
>>it with a new one. It runs much cooler and does not click.
>>
>>Geoff.
>>
>>--
>>Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
>>To help restaurants, as part of the "stimulus package", everyone must order
>>dessert. As part of the socialized health plan, you are forbidden to eat it. :-)
>
>
> So it could die tomorrow or work for years? I'd just leave it alone until it did
> die, but I can hear the noise while watching TV and it's quite annoying.
>
Has the cable company been in your area lately? Are you using a legal
box? are you sure your friendly cable company didn't install a charge
pump device on your line to burn out your illegal box ?

Inquiring/creative Minds would like to know..

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 4:36 pm
From: mike@nowhere.nope

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:19:34 -0400, Jamie
<jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:

>Mike wrote:
>
>>
>> "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Mike wrote:
>>>
>>>>I opened the box yesterday, didn't see anything that looked like a relay.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Generally the ticking noise is a self destructing swithing powersupply. Some sort
>>>of internal fault detection (or a fault itself) is causing it to shut off, and
>>>then after it resets, it trys again.
>>>
>>>This causes the oscillator to start up again, and makes the core of the
>>>transformer "click".
>>>
>>>Checking capacitors is a good idea, they are often at fault.
>>>
>>>Occasionaly, they have enough juice stored in the filter caps that it stays
>>>on without being noticed as a failure.
>>>
>>>We had a combination satellite box and pvr that did it for the last 3 years.
>>>It still worked fine until it reached over 100F here (first time in the
>>>14 years I've been here), when it crashed.
>>>
>>>Since our cable bill included insurance on the unit, they came out and replaced
>>>it with a new one. It runs much cooler and does not click.
>>>
>>>Geoff.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Geoffrey S. Mendelson N3OWJ/4X1GM
>>>To help restaurants, as part of the "stimulus package", everyone must order
>>>dessert. As part of the socialized health plan, you are forbidden to eat it. :-)
>>
>>
>> So it could die tomorrow or work for years? I'd just leave it alone until it did
>> die, but I can hear the noise while watching TV and it's quite annoying.
>>
> Has the cable company been in your area lately? Are you using a legal
>box? are you sure your friendly cable company didn't install a charge
>pump device on your line to burn out your illegal box ?
>
> Inquiring/creative Minds would like to know..

Yes, it's a legal box. I bought it used on ebay from a guy who had
moved to a different city and he'd switched to a different cable
company. When he left, he had the cable company de-activate the box
and when I connected it to the TV I had to call the cable company to
activate it before it would work. I think the cable company would
know if the box was legal or not...

Is your mind satisfied now?

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TOPIC: FS: Rare Texas Instruments TIL306 Numeric Display w/Logic NOS
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/08b256a98db97e59?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 15 2010 6:28 pm
From: "Mark & Mary Ann Weiss"

FS: Rare Texas Instruments TIL306 Numeric Display w/Logic NOS

This is a solid state display used in some shortwave communication transceivers and commercial broadcast transmitters as front panel status, frequency and error code readouts. THESE DISPLAYS WERE DISCONTINUED IN 1992 AND ONLY A HANDFUL OF NEW OLD STOCK EXIST TODAY. Some dealer in Europe is selling these for $330 each.

I'm selling for $30 each + $3 shipping:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230526786010

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For price reference on these hard to find display chips:

Other suppliers are selling this display for a Buy Now Price of: £212.99 US$330.13 Euro 266.24

I'm selling mine for 1/10th the price, priced to move, not sit in an auction house waiting for top dollar.

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