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* Complience logo ? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/20c9a387b004ab22?hl=en
* Reverb Mate, Sole Mate , spring reverb - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/a2ecc5b273e20721?hl=en
* Tapco Juice J 2500 slave amp, 2007 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/185ab3fdb182c05a?hl=en
* Samsung TV - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/cf5e2373e39d7fc0?hl=en
* Bad cap outcomes - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ec9df43e004018a7?hl=en
* Ethical question. - 9 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/0951ee48819ee2bb?hl=en
* Introduction to Applied Modern Physics by Henok Abebe - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/949ea4a7a1168f1a?hl=en
* OT: scope recommendations? - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* GRANNY TUBE - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Free latest cell software - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Nightmare Samsung PTV - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Complience logo ?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/20c9a387b004ab22?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 12:47 am
From: "N_Cook"
Justine Thyme <root@localhost.com> wrote in message
news:bfm9i6p5t3oknfhe12dl62jcgle62ne741@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:04:08 -0500, PeterD <peter2@hipson.net> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 11:49:52 -0700, Justine Thyme <root@localhost.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:32:42 -0000, "N_Cook" <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Anyone recognise and know meaning of the logo on a pcb overlay, USA
2007
> >>>date, the one next to the RU logo (included to show orientation). Maybe
pcb
> >>>makers logo but usually a string of compliance logos seen at that
posistion
> >>>on pcb overlays.
> >>>For those queezy about such things , you will need to engage script
blocker
> >>>for this site
> >>>http://diverse.4mg.com/compl_logo1.jpg
> >>>
> >>I think it is a UL mark that is used for components rather than
> >>complete products.
> >>
> >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recognized_Component_Mark
> >
> >You are kidding, right? He said NEXT TO THE UL logo...
>
> Ah, my bad. I really need to start reading more carefully.
>
> The mark to the left of the RU looks to me more like a lithographic
> registration pattern than a llogo.
Probably logo of the board maker, details and more general useful info on my
reposting to sci.electronics.misc
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TOPIC: Reverb Mate, Sole Mate , spring reverb
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/a2ecc5b273e20721?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 1:22 am
From: "N_Cook"
Brand new out of the box and the footswitch is broken. Owner wants me to
replace the switch rather than returning to the importers for a replacement.
While in there try and sort out what apparently is an age-old problem with
such external reverb boxes. Set guitar , amp and reverb for clean and then
excess gain when changing to "dirty" ch. He does not use the second footsw
so I'm thinking of using that to switch in a preset over some gain setting
part of the cct - anyone been here before?
Hiding to nothing?
Existing user pots are output level and dwell but not mix.
LED next to that sw already there to indicate the gain state if I alteM
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 7:29 am
From: "N_Cook"
Reverbamate that should be by Van Amps
Sw marked with logo YIS in a diamond on one side and RoHS on the other - say
no more. Will have to break into this sw to see what this new to me,
presumably generic, RoHS problem is.
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TOPIC: Tapco Juice J 2500 slave amp, 2007
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/185ab3fdb182c05a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 3:40 am
From: "N_Cook"
A right pain to desolder, double sided thin board, thin traces, tiny pads ,
plated thru holes and PbF solder. 19 inch rack amp but with unnecessary
miniature complex asymmetric switch impossible to find replacement for, 4
pole,3 way, but only 8 of the 16 pins used here. "re-soldered" with copious
flux before hot-air desoldering because of extra PbF temp . Not contacts
corrossion it would seem. I suspect sloppy phosphor bronze contact
carrier/slider in outer metal shell, will rebuild with 0.5mm hard PTFE strip
padding out one side to stop it flopping about, and cleaning contacts.
Maker YSC logo and also DC stamped on the outer.
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TOPIC: Samsung TV
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/cf5e2373e39d7fc0?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 4:22 am
From: Baron
Arfa Daily Inscribed thus:
>
> I'll be in his shop tomorrow. If I remember, I'll ask if he's had
> anything else on those. Was there any prior symptoms ? Did it fail
> whilst on, or fail to come out of standby. What exactly is the standby
> LED doing ? If it is pulsing, have you tried unplugging the backlight
> inverter ?
>
> Arfa
Hi Arfa,
It was running just fine, then without any warning the display went off
and the little red standby LED in the middle of the button started
flashing. 3short, delay, 1long, off, delay then the sequence starts
again.
No I haven't disconnected the backlight panel. There seems to be 6 or 8
inverters on a separate panel running vertically up the left side,
viewed from the rear. There is a single multiway cable connecting the
inverter panel to the PSU board. The backlight panel is under a metal
screen, making it hard to see underneath without removing fairly
substantial metalwork.
Thanks:
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 8:15 am
From: "Arfa Daily"
"Baron" <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:ig70en$n13$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Arfa Daily Inscribed thus:
>>
>> I'll be in his shop tomorrow. If I remember, I'll ask if he's had
>> anything else on those. Was there any prior symptoms ? Did it fail
>> whilst on, or fail to come out of standby. What exactly is the standby
>> LED doing ? If it is pulsing, have you tried unplugging the backlight
>> inverter ?
>>
>> Arfa
>
> Hi Arfa,
> It was running just fine, then without any warning the display went off
> and the little red standby LED in the middle of the button started
> flashing. 3short, delay, 1long, off, delay then the sequence starts
> again.
>
> No I haven't disconnected the backlight panel. There seems to be 6 or 8
> inverters on a separate panel running vertically up the left side,
> viewed from the rear. There is a single multiway cable connecting the
> inverter panel to the PSU board. The backlight panel is under a metal
> screen, making it hard to see underneath without removing fairly
> substantial metalwork.
>
> Thanks:
> --
> Best Regards:
> Baron.
It's only the plug to the inverter board that you need to remove. From the
described symptoms, I doubt that the problem is going to be that, but it is
common for backlight inverters to fail on all makes of LCD TV, and the
excess load then placed on the PSU's 24v rail can cause some odd and bizarre
startup problems, depending on how and where the supply monitors it's output
voltages and the current draws on the various rails. Normally, although the
connector to the inverter board has a lot of wires, most of them are just
paralleled-up +24v and gnd. There is often a control wire also.
I was unable to check further with my mate today, as he is off with man-flu.
The other guy in the shop is more computers than TV, so doesn't know a lot
about TV faults.
Arfa
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 11:41 am
From: Baron
Arfa Daily Inscribed thus:
>
> "Baron" <baron.nospam@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:ig70en$n13$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Arfa Daily Inscribed thus:
>>>
>>> I'll be in his shop tomorrow. If I remember, I'll ask if he's had
>>> anything else on those. Was there any prior symptoms ? Did it fail
>>> whilst on, or fail to come out of standby. What exactly is the
>>> standby LED doing ? If it is pulsing, have you tried unplugging the
>>> backlight inverter ?
>>>
>>> Arfa
>>
>> Hi Arfa,
>> It was running just fine, then without any warning the display went
>> off and the little red standby LED in the middle of the button
>> started flashing. 3short, delay, 1long, off, delay then the sequence
>> starts again.
>>
>> No I haven't disconnected the backlight panel. There seems to be 6
>> or 8 inverters on a separate panel running vertically up the left
>> side, viewed from the rear. There is a single multiway cable
>> connecting the inverter panel to the PSU board. The backlight panel
>> is under a metal screen, making it hard to see underneath without
>> removing fairly substantial metalwork.
>>
>> Thanks:
>> --
>> Best Regards:
>> Baron.
Hi Arfa,
>
> It's only the plug to the inverter board that you need to remove. From
> the described symptoms, I doubt that the problem is going to be that,
> but it is common for backlight inverters to fail on all makes of LCD
> TV, and the excess load then placed on the PSU's 24v rail can cause
> some odd and bizarre startup problems, depending on how and where the
> supply monitors it's output voltages and the current draws on the
> various rails. Normally, although the connector to the inverter board
> has a lot of wires, most of them are just paralleled-up +24v and gnd.
> There is often a control wire also.
Yes I did disconnect the cable from the main board to the inverter board
where it connects to the PSU board. It made no difference ! :-(
I've a sneaky feeling that the flashing sequence of the power LED is
trying to tell me something, but I haven't been able to find out what.
> I was unable to check further with my mate today, as he is off with
> man-flu. The other guy in the shop is more computers than TV, so
> doesn't know a lot about TV faults.
> Arfa
I'm afraid thats the camp I'm in. 35+ years ago TV's were much more
understandable, read simple, to understand.
Your help is very much appreciated.
Thanks:
PS. At least the old 28" Bush and digibox still work... (*)
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
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TOPIC: Bad cap outcomes
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ec9df43e004018a7?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 4:37 am
From: Baron
stratus46@yahoo.com Inscribed thus:
> On Jan 6, 8:50 am, Baron <baron.nos...@linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
>> D Yuniskis Inscribed thus:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi,
>>
>> > I'm wondering what the prevailing approach is when
>> > it comes to dealing with kit that has been found to
>> > have "bad cap-itis". Particularly, PC's.
>>
>> > Do folks exploe the current operating conditions
>> > of the machine *before* re-cap-ping (i.e., see
>> > what supplies are affected, what sorts of ripple
>> > is present, etc.)? Or, do you just replace and
>> > *functionally* retest (i.e., if you haven't
>> > probed the circuit to get an idea for the exact
>> > nature of the problem, probing afterwards at
>> > that level of detail seems to be a contradiction)?
>>
>> > In particular, how do you know if the system has
>> > been operating within "absolute maximum ratings"
>> > while this fault has been present? How do you
>> > know the system's reliability/integrity hasn't
>> > been compromised (so your "fix" is just a
>> > band-aid)?
>>
>> > E.g., I've been recommending disposing of machines
>> > with this problem. The labor to re-cap just doesn't
>> > make sense given the book value of machines that
>> > exhibit these problems -- especially in light of
>> > the fact that you can't be sure that the "repaired"
>> > machine is really "100%" (maybe OK for a machine you
>> > use informally at home, but would you want to *rely*
>> > on it in a commercial environment?).
>>
>> > I suspect most machines are just recapped and re-used
>> > but wanted confirmation or repudiation of that opinion.
>>
>> > Thanks!
>> > --don
>>
>> Its really a matter of horses for courses. Some you do and some you
>> don't ! I don't recall having further trouble with re-capped PC
>> mainboards. Having said that not all clients will come back and
>> complain if the machine fails soon after its been repaired. Its
>> become to easy to replace rather than repair nowadays !
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards:
>> Baron.
>
> Had a PC mobo at work a couple years back that was not available any
> longer but required as part of an expensive system. Replacing the bad
> caps (and they were REALLY bad) has kept it working fine for 2 years.
> Get a GOOD soldering iron like a Metcal. An inexpensive ESR meter is a
> must. There are sometimes small ceramics in parallel with
I've seen some of those that ended up being just two wires stuck out of
the PCB.
> 'lytics and
> these will 'fake out' the ESR meter. If a 'lytic measures bad, it's
> bad but if it measures good, it may still be bad while measured in
> circuit. Warming the cap while unsoldering it will make it read better
> on the meter but very often gets much worse after cooling off. There
> are some places where the caps need to be nearly perfect. A favorite
> critical place is the filter in a SMPS on the 3.3 or 5V rail. The cap
> may read 'OK' but that may not be nearly good enough. Don't use crap
> grade caps either. For SM caps I like Panasonic FK or FP caps. Through
> hole I start wit Panasonic FM, Nichicon HM.HN, HZ, PW and other low
> ESR caps. Look for highest ripple current ratings.
I agree ! The only comment that I would add is be carful of physical
size and lead spacing. I've been caught out by slightly larger
diameter and hight restraints. In particular intel boards where there
have been 6 or more caps arranged tight side by side.
> Often there are a lot of caps same value and manufacturer. If some
> read bad and others good, I change all of them since it's only a
> matter of time for the rest to fail.
>
> G²
Yes I agree ! I've also found that the caps in the RAM PSU circuits go
bad in the same way. Very often, particularly on newer boards the RAM
has its own dedicated PSU. The caps are much smaller both physically
and in value, but also go high ESR causing some very strange behavior.
--
Best Regards:
Baron.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 10:32 am
From: Jeff Liebermann
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:38:53 -0700, D Yuniskis
<not.going.to.be@seen.com> wrote:
>I'm wondering what the prevailing approach is when
>it comes to dealing with kit that has been found to
>have "bad cap-itis". Particularly, PC's.
That's rapidly becoming a major part of my business, second only to
malware removal.
>Do folks exploe the current operating conditions
>of the machine *before* re-cap-ping (i.e., see
>what supplies are affected, what sorts of ripple
>is present, etc.)?
No. It takes too much time. If it's obvious that there are bad caps
in the box, the only decision is whether to replace ALL the caps, not
probing around looking for sections to avoid. Where I get into
trouble is when I get a working machine, that has obvious signs of
leaking or bulging caps, that will eventually die. The customer often
does not want me to do a major motherboard capacitor replacement if
it's still working. Oddly, some of these machines have lasted years
with obvious bulging caps.
>Or, do you just replace and
>*functionally* retest (i.e., if you haven't
>probed the circuit to get an idea for the exact
>nature of the problem, probing afterwards at
>that level of detail seems to be a contradiction)?
No. I use the shotgun approach and just replace every cap of the same
type. The time I spend doing the "extra" caps is about the same as
what it would take to probe around looking for the worst offenders.
The idea is to do the job once, and not have it come back with
additional blown caps.
>In particular, how do you know if the system has
>been operating within "absolute maximum ratings"
>while this fault has been present? How do you
>know the system's reliability/integrity hasn't
>been compromised (so your "fix" is just a
>band-aid)?
Ouch. I've bought bulk caps on eBay suspecting that I may be asking
for trouble by installing garbage caps. When possible, I'll buy
Panasonic caps because I've had no problems with them. If it will
fit, I try to increase the voltage rating, even if it means using a
smaller capacitance value. I have attempted some accelerated lifetime
testing using an ESR meter, with inconclusive results. At this time,
I can't tell the difference between a new bad cap, and new good cap. I
consider uprating the caps near the CPU as mandatory as I know (and
have measured and calculated) that they are running too hot for their
voltage rating. Also, I try to use polymer caps, but they're only
available in smaller values and kinda expensive.
>E.g., I've been recommending disposing of machines
>with this problem. The labor to re-cap just doesn't
>make sense given the book value of machines that
>exhibit these problems -- especially in light of
>the fact that you can't be sure that the "repaired"
>machine is really "100%" (maybe OK for a machine you
>use informally at home, but would you want to *rely*
>on it in a commercial environment?).
Not totally true. The problem with getting a new machine is that the
customer will have to pay me to transplant their software to the new
machine. Often, that's more expensive than the machine. If it
involves an OS upgrade, it gets more complicated. Of course if the
machine is ancient, it's not an issue.
There's little difference between home and "commercial" machines these
days unless you're talking about servers. Well, maybe more chrome and
glitz on the home machines.
>I suspect most machines are just recapped and re-used
>but wanted confirmation or repudiation of that opinion.
It's about 50% here. If the machine is more than about 6 years old,
I'll usually suggest a replacement. If fairly recent (Core2Duo or
better), I fix it. My recent batting average is about 75% success. It
was much worse in the past when I didn't replace all the caps.
However, a major problem has been BGA array soldering. If I dive into
the machine, replace all the caps, there are still plenty of other
things that can cause a subsequent warranty problem. I try to warn
the customer that replacing the caps is a "best effort" and that if it
fails, they're committed to buying a new machine, and that I owe them
a new machine. It's awkward, messy, and full of problems. They have
to recognize that recapping involved some risk. It's often easier to
just suggest they buy a new machine than to deal with the ethical
issues required to convince them that simply touching their machine
does not create a lifetime warranty.
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/drivel/slides/diploma.html>
This is from about 1987.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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TOPIC: Ethical question.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/0951ee48819ee2bb?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 5:08 am
From: mm
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 18:59:37 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <mhywatt@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>>
>> So, what to do?
>>
>> Jeff
>
>I'll assume you found some child porn. If it were me I would hand it over
>to the cops. Can't say I really hate much about the world but child abuse
>and those who do the abuse would be 1 of the few things I hate.
I think I would make a distinction between child porn the owwner
created versus stuff that looks clearly purchased, even though both
are illegal.
I bought a big harddrive at a hamfest last summer and it wasn't wiped
like most are, adn on it was nothing involving children, but there was
some porn, a little bit of labeled with a web-addreess, so it was
clearly downloaded, a free sample perhaps, and a couple short videos
that had no one in them that looked anything like the owner of the
hard drive.
OTOH, there were others that looked home made, because the same "girl"
appeared in the bedroom and ohter plces like at a restaurant.
Actually some of the girls wree in their 50's and quite unattractive,
and a couple were darn good looking and pretty young, but still 25 or
30. I think the man is not married. He also had a lot of family
pictures. (I've thought of trying to find him in case these were his
only copies of the pictures.)
My point is that maybe the op can tell if it was user created, or
received from a friend?, versus bought, where the customers arrest
wouldn't have any repercussion for the sellers, iiuc. I don't know
entirely how, but I could clearly tell the differnce in what I saw.
Any other evidence of a real crime, like videos of vandalism,
muggings, arson, murders, should be turned over to the police, and I
don't think any defense claims, if any, that the computer repair man
inserted anything will be believed by anyone.
Just a couple days ago there was another example of some group
videoing their beating up a homeless man.
OTOH, how can a customer be so stupid he takes teh computer in if it
contains anything illegal. There are some people who wouldn't even
ask advice and woudl take it to the police if it showed someone
spitting on the sidewalk. That's illegal too some places.
== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 5:17 am
From: mm
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:00:29 -0500, "Charlie" <left@thestation.com>
wrote:
>
>"Jeffrey Angus" <jangus@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
>news:4d2602bc$0$5566$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>> Customer brings in a lap top. "Won't boot"
>>
>> So you do the usual amount of diagnostics
>> and knock a little sense back into the machine.
>>
>> Being nosy of course, you check out the
>> pictures folder to see what their kinks are.
>
> Isn't that an nvasion of privacy? Did you have a search warrant?
FWIW, search warrants don't relate to private parties, only the
government. They don't give search warrants to private parties, not
even private detectives. Only to government law enforement persons.
Like DY said.
"Invasion of privacy" is a term that can apply lots of places but only
a few of them are illegal or tortious.
However the OP says he was nosy and snooping. If he says that
elsewhere or used his real name here, he's weakened his defense a lot.
>Do you open yourself up to a lawsuit?
>
>Advice I one got from an attorney. You never want to be in the witness box.
>And you don't know the ansewer until the judge tells you.
>
== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 5:28 am
From: mm
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:53:47 -0600, Jeffrey Angus
<jangus@suddenlink.net> wrote:
>
>To answer the point of invasion of privacy.
>You have no expectation of privacy if you hand your
>laptop to someone.
You may well be right about this. If I sent my diary in to have it
rebound, and the bookbinder read it, well if I kept a diary I wouldn't
send it to a bookbinder.
What exactly did you find on this computer?
I forgot about child abuse. That's even worse than naked poses of a
child, which is all I had in mind that I called pornography.
To the others, if the OP had no reason to suspect a crime and he
snooped just because he was nosy, yes, that's unethical, but his
unethical behaviour doesn't mean he has to hide in the corner after he
found something bad. If the right thing to do for a perfectly ehtical
person, who only found this stuff because he needed to verify that the
.jpg viewer was working, and he chose a picture named NiagraFalls
because he thought it wouldnt' be personal, if the proper thing to do
for him is to go to the police, then it's the proper thing for a
snooper to do too. If the OP were a murderer, it would still be the
proper thing to do. Everyone has failings; some are even criminals;
it doesn't mean they're not allowed to turn in other people who commit
crimes. Rather, they have the same moral obligations the rest of us
do.
== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 5:40 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"
> OTOH, how can a customer be so stupid he takes the
> computer in if it contains anything illegal?
In this case, the machine wouldn't boot.
If one has material one does not wish others to see -- legal or illegal --
it should be stored on an external drive. One can then hand the computer to
a serviceman without worry.
Though the temptation to snoop can be overwhelming, an ethical serviceman
will resist the temptation at all times. No one expects him to "play
police", and no reasonable person would condemn him for not prying, even in
cases of child molestation or murder.
It's NOT his business to spy on his neighbors and report unacceptable
behavior. The Constitution protects our privacy, and though that protection
doesn't generally apply to snooping by neighbors, an ethical person will
respect that protection.
== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 7:49 am
From: "Michael A. Terrell"
JeffM wrote:
>
> >JeffM wrote:
> >>Now you have a reputation
> >>not only as someone who does unauthorized snooping
> >>but as a nark.
> >>
> >>Word gets out that you are a jerk
> >>and people immediately stop bringing you their work.
> >>Another jackass out of the business. Good.
> >>
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >With that attitude, people will think you distribute child porn.
> >
> "If one would give me six lines
> written by the hand of the most honest man,
> I would find something in them to have him hanged."
> --Cardinal Richelieu
>
> You advocate making it easier on the persecutors
> who go after individuals who haven't harmed anyone.[1]
> Want to put a REAL dent in child porn?
> Stop wasting resources on people who aren't hurting anyone.
> Go after THE PRODUCERS .
>
> ...and It could easily be argued
> that guys who are whacking off at their computers
> are NOT a threat to any *actual* kids.
> Charge a guy with possessing CP then put me on the jury
> and he gets an acquittal.
> I don't see anyone whom *he* victimized.
> .
> .
> [1] The only thing more stupid
> is the trend to consider possession of *drawings*
> to be prosecutable.
>
> All of you priggish blue noses can go to Hell.
No one wants to go with an ass like you.
--
What are you looking for, all the way down here?
== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 9:08 am
From: PlainBill47@yawho.com
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:58:21 -0600, Jeffrey Angus
<jangus@suddenlink.net> wrote:
>Customer brings in a lap top. "Won't boot"
>
>So you do the usual amount of diagnostics
>and knock a little sense back into the machine.
>
>Being nosy of course, you check out the
>pictures folder to see what their kinks are.
>
>Oh, my definitely a bozo no no there.....
>
>So what do you do?
>(Some answers giving below are tongue in cheek
>for the humor impaired.)
>
>Act like nothing happened?
>
>Congratulate them on their tastes?
>
>Wipe the drive with something like bcwipe and
>give it back to them?
>
>Spin up the drive separately and bang it against
>the desk repeatedly until you knock a head loose?
>
>Make copies for yourself?
>
>Hand it over to the local police?
>
>Give it back to the customer and turn them in
>after a few weeks?
>
>Charge the customer extra and demand payment to
>keep quiet?
>
>The two things that bother me the most are the
>police have a terrible track record on anonymous
>and the lawyers like to claim that YOU put it
>there.
>
>So, what to do?
>
>Jeff
Ethical as what? A businessman or a human being? The fact that you
were snooping 'of course' casts doubt upon your ethics as a
businessman. And it doesn't say much for your character either.
What was it? Hidden camera videos of the cutomer boffing a series of
adults of either gender? 'Snuff' porn, 'crush' porn, or some local
politician in drag? The same answer applies - give the computer back
to the customer, collect your usual fee (less 10% to remind yourself
to behave next time).
If it was genuine kiddie porn - an adult abusing a pre-teen, you have
a chance to prove your qualifications as a decent human being. Call
the police, show them what you found, and prepare to suffer the
fallout.
PlainBill
== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 9:52 am
From: Jeff Liebermann
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:53:47 -0600, Jeffrey Angus
<jangus@suddenlink.net> wrote:
None of my customer will ever admit to downloading porno, even when
confronted with the evidence. There's also the problem of the friends
sending pornographic jokes and photos via email.
>You really have only two options.
>1. Deliver the laptop to the police and prepare to
>have to testify in court as to who's laptop it is,
>what you found on it, and why you had access to it.
In parts of the world, you never call of the police unless they have
someone to arrest to drag away to jail. Wasting a policemans time is
a bad idea. A neighbor called the police over some trivial matter
that was easily resolved before they arrived. Dissapointed, he walked
around the neighborhood, found some pot plants, and arrested everyone
in sight. In a different incident, a neighbor threw the building
inspector out of her house. So, we went around and ticketed me for
having an unregistered dead vehicle on the property. Unless you have
a clear cut complaint, that requires no decision making on the part of
the policeman, don't call.
>2. Cause a physical failure to the drive and return
>it to the customer, "Sorry, drive failed can't fix
>it, unless you want a new hard drive. But you're
>data is gone."
That's great. Scorched earth, computer style. If you can't have the
porno, nobody can. Be prepared for customer retribution. The devine
retribution will have to wait.
There's always a compromise, which doesn't quite make everyone happy,
but should be sufficient.
3. Move, not copy, the porno to a DVD and hand him the DVD. Clean
the stuff off the computer. He may even thank you for doing his
housekeeping for him. You can also sell him an external USB or eSATA
drive to keep his porno off the main machine, so his wife won't find
it.
I make image backups (Acronis 2011) of all my customers drives before
I start working on them. It's mostly to cover myself in case I erase
something important, or in case a virus removal goes awry. If he
wants his porno back, it's at least available.
>Oh and to the other Jeff, thanks for the consult,
>you're check's in the mail.
Yeah, sure. I'll believe it when I see it. If you can't get yourself
to filling out the amount, just send me a blank and signed check. I
can do the rest.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 10:09 am
From: Jeff Liebermann
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:53:47 -0600, Jeffrey Angus
<jangus@suddenlink.net> wrote:
(...)
Googling, I found a good start on a computer repair code of ethics.
<http://www.darn-computer.com/Ethics.htm>
I think I've broken all ten rules. As I recall, the original ten
commandments were only a subset of about 600 assorted ammendments,
rules, and regulations that arrived later, so there's plenty of room
for creativity.
A good start would be the gold (plated) rule. Do unto the customer as
you would have them do unto you. If you give your computer to me for
repair, I don't think you would be very happy if I gave it back to you
in pieces.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 11:41 am
From: Jeff Liebermann
On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 15:53:47 -0600, Jeffrey Angus
<jangus@suddenlink.net> wrote:
>Oh and to the other Jeff, thanks for the consult,
>you're check's in the mail.
Ummm.... are you billing this customer for your time looking at his
photos? (Just curious).
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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TOPIC: OT: scope recommendations?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/945010a432810e85?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 6:24 am
From: Smitty Two
A friend is being coerced by circumstance into learning a bit of
electronics, and has need for a basic scope. I told him he could borrow
my old one, since I don't use it much anymore. But, he's thinking about
getting his own, and I have no idea what's available these days. Any
suggestions about:
manufacturers to look at or avoid
distributor recommendations
used from ebay?
standalone vs. handheld scopemeter vs. PC based
would be welcome. Requirements are minimal, dual trace would be nice but
we aren't talking about stratospheric frequencies or many bells and
whistles. Personally I like the standalone with the physical knobs and
switches, but maybe some of the handhelds or the PC based units with
soft controls are decent these days.
TIA, of course.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 7:11 am
From: GS
On Jan 7, 9:24 am, Smitty Two <prestwh...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> A friend is being coerced by circumstance into learning a bit of
> electronics, and has need for a basic scope. I told him he could borrow
> my old one, since I don't use it much anymore. But, he's thinking about
> getting his own, and I have no idea what's available these days. Any
> suggestions about:
>
> manufacturers to look at or avoid
> distributor recommendations
> used from ebay?
> standalone vs. handheld scopemeter vs. PC based
>
> would be welcome. Requirements are minimal, dual trace would be nice but
> we aren't talking about stratospheric frequencies or many bells and
> whistles. Personally I like the standalone with the physical knobs and
> switches, but maybe some of the handhelds or the PC based units with
> soft controls are decent these days.
>
> TIA, of course.
Seems like an awful question. But, I would say go Ebay with something
cheap and is
working properly.
I use to suggest Hameg analog/digital scopes, but that was before I
tried to use one !!!
greg
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 8:17 am
From: Rich Webb
On Fri, 07 Jan 2011 06:24:12 -0800, Smitty Two
<prestwhich@earthlink.net> wrote:
>A friend is being coerced by circumstance into learning a bit of
>electronics, and has need for a basic scope. I told him he could borrow
>my old one, since I don't use it much anymore. But, he's thinking about
>getting his own, and I have no idea what's available these days. Any
>suggestions about:
>
>manufacturers to look at or avoid
>distributor recommendations
>used from ebay?
>standalone vs. handheld scopemeter vs. PC based
>
>would be welcome. Requirements are minimal, dual trace would be nice but
>we aren't talking about stratospheric frequencies or many bells and
>whistles. Personally I like the standalone with the physical knobs and
>switches, but maybe some of the handhelds or the PC based units with
>soft controls are decent these days.
PC-based USB-interfaced 'scopes tend not to have stellar sample rates.
There's usually a note in the fine print that the advertised sample rate
is "equivalent time sampling" which is okay for repetitive waveforms but
not so much for single event captures -- and single events are one of
the nice things you get with digital scopes.
GW Instek and Rigol each have reasonably-priced 100 MHz, 1 Gsps dual
channel models that could be a starting point for comparison
http://www.tequipment.net/InstekGDS-2102.html
http://www.tequipment.net/RigolDS1102E.html
--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
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TOPIC: GRANNY TUBE
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/dc42ddbd088f3203?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 7:40 am
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TOPIC: Free latest cell software
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/1dae4a2a513fdb54?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 10:10 am
From: ksr murthy
http://www.celebsimzs.com/2011/01/free-mobile-softwares.html
http://www.photovediodating.com/sexy-models-photos.htm
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TOPIC: Nightmare Samsung PTV
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/53c2c1c21b44407f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jan 7 2011 11:48 am
From: "Chris F."
This Samsung HCN4767W projection set is really making a nuisance of
itself. It had a blown convergence IC when I acquired it, so I replaced them
both. It ran for a few days in the shop (about 6-8 hours a day), then blew
one of the same IC's again. I replaced them again, and also replaced the
convergence processor board. Again, it seemed to work fine for a few days,
but now the bloody IC's have blown again. The supply voltage to the IC's is
a solid 25V (pos. and neg.), well within the 50V max. supply voltage the
IC's are rated for. Both IC's are properly heatsinked, though they seem to
run quite hot - I assumed this was just normal. I've also gone through the
convergence board and power supply looking for caps up in ESR, but found
none.
The replacement IC's were supposed to be OEM, but I have to wonder just
how compatible they really are. It's the only explanation I can think of.
I'm tired of wasting time and money on this piece of junk. Unless I can be
certain any further replacement parts will work, I'm going to scrap it and
take my losses, which would be close to $300 as of right now. I will also
vow to never gamble on a Samsung again - they're nothing but trouble.
Any advice would be appreciated
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