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TOPIC: IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/468dba7cb3f71499?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 12:52 pm
From: I AM THAT I AM

On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 09:32:30 -0800, DaveC <invalid@invalid.net> wrote:

>> How about giving a female end a sex change by plugging a pin header into
>> it?
>
>This results in reversing the pin assignments, ie, pin 1 connects to pin 2.
>Not good.

This is also untrue and incorrect. It does not change the fact that it
was a stupid suggestion though.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 12:59 pm
From: DaveC

>> This results in reversing the pin assignments, ie, pin 1 connects to pin 2.
>> Not good.
>
>
> This is also untrue and incorrect. It does not change the fact that it
> was a stupid suggestion though.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ATA_Plug.svg>

Can you come up with a way to connect pin 1 to pin 1 of two connectors,
placed face to face, connected by a 40-pin header?

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 2:34 pm
From: hal-usenet@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net (Hal Murray)

>Those are cables with typically 1 female connector at one end and 2 female
>connectors at the other end.
>
>I need 1 female and 1 male connector.
>
>IDC male 40-pin for 80-conductor flat cable are apparently made from
>unobtainium...

I don't think they make what you are looking for.

You might be able to fake it with a make-male gizmo. That is
plug a bunch of pins into a female connectot to turn it into a make connector.

If you can't find something targeted at that use, a normal
through-hole header might work. The board end will probably be too
short. Mumble. Solder two together, or push the pins off a bit, or ...

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== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 3:11 pm
From: "m II"

"DaveC" wrote in message
news:0001HW.C999052E0110452BB02A89BF@news.eternal-september.org...

> How about giving a female end a sex change by plugging a pin header into
> it?

This results in reversing the pin assignments, ie, pin 1 connects to pin 2.
Not good.

----

Either the pins will be what he needs or a male connector won't do it
wither. It will come out the same unless he twists some strands of the
cable.

Think about it.

I don't know why somebody would want a male end on a cable, anyway. The pins
would not be protected and get bent when in storage.

mike

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 3:24 pm
From: "m II"

"m II" wrote in message news:xwUcp.72207$QD2.1152@newsfe10.iad...

"DaveC" wrote in message
news:0001HW.C999052E0110452BB02A89BF@news.eternal-september.org...

> How about giving a female end a sex change by plugging a pin header into
> it?

This results in reversing the pin assignments, ie, pin 1 connects to pin 2.
Not good.

----

Either the pins will be what he needs or a male connector won't do it
wither. It will come out the same unless he twists some strands of the
cable.

Think about it.

I don't know why somebody would want a male end on a cable, anyway. The pins
would not be protected and get bent when in storage.

mike

----

Oooops! my bad.

I was in a rush after changing my computer time clock zone and Identity over
a back to make a terrorist posting in other groups.

I'm a complete idiot. I guess I should focus more after being a complete
asshole online.

mike

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 4:45 pm
From: DaveC

> Either the pins will be what he needs or a male connector won't do it
> wither. It will come out the same unless he twists some strands of the
> cable.
>
> Think about it.

I think you need to get two F connectors and try it yourself. Put them face
to face. Pin 1 aligns with pin 2.

The M connector is *designed* to mate with the proper pins. F connectors were
not designed for that.

> I don't know why somebody would want a male end on a cable, anyway. The pins
> would not be protected and get bent when in storage.

<http://www.pacificcable.com/Picture_Page.asp?DataName=IDH40>

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 4:51 pm
From: "m II"

"DaveC" wrote in message
news:0001HW.C9996A9C00071802B05519BF@news.eternal-september.org...

> Either the pins will be what he needs or a male connector wonâ€™t do it
> wither. It will come out the same unless he twists some strands of the
> cable.
>
> Think about it.

I think you need to get two F connectors and try it yourself. Put them face
to face. Pin 1 aligns with pin 2.

The M connector is *designed* to mate with the proper pins. F connectors
were
not designed for that.

> I don't know why somebody would want a male end on a cable, anyway. The
> pins
> would not be protected and get bent when in storage.

<http://www.pacificcable.com/Picture_Page.asp?DataName=IDH40>

----------------
What you implied was to turn the male header/connector around and face it
the other way (face to face means one is reversed). Of course it will be pin
1 to 2. The other side of the cable usually fixes that anyway, like the old
days when the IDE cables had no orientation (not racism) gadgets on them.

Not a big deal for somebody without 3D dyslexia. I can prove that by
attempting to do crown molding on the ceiling....LOL

mike

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TOPIC: Disc tray won't open
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/d3e448d3a0bd19cd?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 1:27 pm
From: GARY

I cleaned the laser, let it dry, reset the microprocessor and turned
the unit on.

Now, the disc is picked up and it spins but slowly.

Then, the disc tray rotates and the above actions occur with the next
disc.

The disc tray rotates again and the above actions occur with the last
disc.

Finally, "No Disc" is displayed on the front panel.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 1:51 pm
From: Jamie

GARY wrote:
> I cleaned the laser, let it dry, reset the microprocessor and turned
> the unit on.
>
> Now, the disc is picked up and it spins but slowly.
>
> Then, the disc tray rotates and the above actions occur with the next
> disc.
>
> The disc tray rotates again and the above actions occur with the last
> disc.
>
> Finally, "No Disc" is displayed on the front panel.
Some units have a magnetic locking hub to clamp the disc in the center
so that the drive can spin it. Maybe the magnetic isn't working? Broken
wire? And then, others just have a mechanical clamp in which, you may
have a broken drive or associated mechanisms..

Sounds like a slipping drive train to me.

Jamie

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TOPIC: How-To: Common Cause Of Flat Panel PS Failure
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ff5b6703ec041dcc?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 1:31 pm
From: PlainBill@yawhoo.com

On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:52:54 -0800 (PST), stratus46@yahoo.com wrote:

>On Mar 6, 7:35�am, Bob Villa <pheeh.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is common to almost all flat panel power supplies. There are 4
>> electrolytic capacitors (same physical size) on the switching PS.
>> There are 2) 1000uF X 10V and 2) 470uF X 15V that usually bulge and/or
>> fail. You shouldn't pay more than .25to .50c for each. (I used higher
>> voltage on the replacements of 1000x15 and 470x25)
>> Symptoms of failure are: slow power-up or totally dead.
>
>Look for highest ripple current rating. Nichicon HZ, HN, Panasonic FM
>
>G�
Correct. 'Bob Villa' apparently wants repeat business as his high ESR
caps will fail quickly. Note, 'Bob', good quality low ESR caps aren't
real expensive - you just aren't going to buy them at Radio Shack or
Caps R Us.

PlainBill

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 4:08 pm
From: Bob Villa

On Mar 6, 3:31 pm, PlainB...@yawhoo.com wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:52:54 -0800 (PST), stratu...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >On Mar 6, 7:35 am, Bob Villa <pheeh.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> This is common to almost all flat panel power supplies. There are 4
> >> electrolytic capacitors (same physical size) on the switching PS.
> >> There are 2) 1000uF X 10V and 2) 470uF X 15V that usually bulge and/or
> >> fail. You shouldn't pay more than .25to .50c for each. (I used higher
> >> voltage on the replacements of 1000x15 and 470x25)
> >> Symptoms of failure are: slow power-up or totally dead.
>
> >Look for highest ripple current rating. Nichicon HZ, HN, Panasonic FM
>
> >G
>
> Correct. 'Bob Villa' apparently wants repeat business as his high ESR
> caps will fail quickly. Note, 'Bob', good quality low ESR caps aren't
> real expensive - you just aren't going to buy them at Radio Shack or
> Caps R Us.
>
> PlainBill

Got them from Newark (Illinois Cap. and Rubycon)

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TOPIC: Confusing output voltage from transformer
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/127abce726bc4e16?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 1:32 pm
From: David Nebenzahl

On 3/5/2011 8:29 AM Skipweasel spake thus:

> In article <iktgt6$o2i$1@speranza.aioe.org>, no_one@no_where.net
> says...
>
>> Like as not 10v will be fine (but as said, 7.5 is a safe starting
>> point.) It's rare for any device to require an exact voltage unless
>> it uses 5v TTL ICs and doesn't have any sort of on board
>> regulator.
>
> Much 74LS series is OK up to around 7V. Most data sheets say 5.5V, but a
> few actually admit to more - but experience suggests that above 7V
> you're /really/ pushing your luck.

Where do you get 74LS chips in this situation? The O.P. posted a
question about a portable Sony audio amplifier: it's not going to
contain *any* logic chips, more than likely.

Sheesh.

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== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 2:08 pm
From: Skipweasel

In article <4d73fd7b$0$22962$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com>,
nobody@but.us.chickens says...
> >> Like as not 10v will be fine (but as said, 7.5 is a safe starting
> >> point.) It's rare for any device to require an exact voltage unless
> >> it uses 5v TTL ICs and doesn't have any sort of on board
> >> regulator.
> >
> > Much 74LS series is OK up to around 7V. Most data sheets say 5.5V, but a
> > few actually admit to more - but experience suggests that above 7V
> > you're /really/ pushing your luck.
>
> Where do you get 74LS chips in this situation? The O.P. posted a
> question about a portable Sony audio amplifier: it's not going to
> contain *any* logic chips, more than likely.
>
>

I didn't - it got mentioned along the way in the post I replied to.

> Sheesh.

Bah - thread-drift. Some of the best stuff comes out of drifted thread.
May not be relevant to the OP, but then we're not a public service, we
don't have any duty to stay on topic if we don't want to.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 2:27 pm
From: Nick Leverton

In article <MPG.27de163ebc22502a989a2d@85.214.73.210>,
Skipweasel <skipweaselnospam@googlemail.com> wrote:
>In article <4d73fd7b$0$22962$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com>,
>nobody@but.us.chickens says...

>> Where do you get 74LS chips in this situation? The O.P. posted a
>> question about a portable Sony audio amplifier: it's not going to
>> contain *any* logic chips, more than likely.
>>
>>
>
>I didn't - it got mentioned along the way in the post I replied to.
>
>> Sheesh.
>
>Bah - thread-drift. Some of the best stuff comes out of drifted thread.
>May not be relevant to the OP, but then we're not a public service, we
>don't have any duty to stay on topic if we don't want to.

These both look very sheddy newsgroups to me ...

Nick
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== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 2:41 pm
From: Tabby

On Mar 5, 10:40 pm, Lady Veteran <clamchell...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> john reves wrote:
> > I have a very small sony amplifier (the portable type such as you would
> > travel with and attach to an Ipod). I dont have the 9 Volt DC transformer
> > that came with it, so decided to use one of those 'variable voltage'
> > transformers that I bought from Lidl some time ago.
>
> > It's not clear from the transformer which of the polaritys the polarity
> > switch is indicating. So to check the polarity i used a voltmeter.
>
> > The choice of output voltages on this transformer is 3, 4.5, 6, 7.5, 9, and
> > 12 volts. The output I require for this particular amplifier is 9 volts.
> > But when taking a reading from the voltmeter it only reads 7.5 volts on the
> > 9 volt setting.
>
> > Checking the others, 3volts is really 2.5volts, 4.5 is really 4, 6 is 5, 7.5
> > is 6.5 and 12 is 10v.
>
> > I read somewhere that a voltage reading from a voltmeter is different from
> > the reading taken when something is 'under- load'.
>
> > Would you use the 9 volt setting (which reads 7.5v) or use the 12v voltage
> > setting which reads 10volt, for use with this 9volt amplifier. Thanks for
> > advice.
>
> I would put it on 9 volts. Isn't that what the portable speakers take.
> Don't always believe what your multimeter is telling you. You can your
> multimeter on the pud pounder setting and probe Sitre Magana while he's
> at the Post Office and it could tell you "not a probability."
>
> But it would be wrong, wouldn't it?
>
> LV

MMs are accurate on dc, and ac 50Hz sinewaves. Its only when you
depart from those that things /can/ get inaccurate. There is one other
known cause: a low quality digital meter with a dying battery, some
can read low.

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 2:47 pm
From: Skipweasel

In article <il11nv$v8k$1@leverton.org>, nick@leverton.org says...
> These both look very sheddy newsgroups to me ...
>

And proud of it. Some people take it all rather too seriously.

--
Skipweasel - never knowingly understood.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 3:03 pm
From: David Nebenzahl

On 3/6/2011 2:41 PM Tabby spake thus:

> On Mar 5, 10:40 pm, Lady Veteran <clamchell...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>> I would put it on 9 volts. Isn't that what the portable speakers
>> take. Don't always believe what your multimeter is telling you. You
>> can your multimeter on the pud pounder setting and probe Sitre
>> Magana while he's at the Post Office and it could tell you "not a
>> probability."
>>
>> But it would be wrong, wouldn't it?
>>
>> LV
>
> MMs are accurate on dc, and ac 50Hz sinewaves. Its only when you
> depart from those that things /can/ get inaccurate. There is one other
> known cause: a low quality digital meter with a dying battery, some
> can read low.

You do realize that you replied to a total troll, don't you?

Just checking.

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- Usenet

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 3:40 pm
From: geoff

In message <4d7412c8$0$21602$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com>, David
Nebenzahl <nobody@but.us.chickens> writes
>On 3/6/2011 2:41 PM Tabby spake thus:
>
>> On Mar 5, 10:40 pm, Lady Veteran <clamchell...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> I would put it on 9 volts. Isn't that what the portable speakers
>>> take. Don't always believe what your multimeter is telling you. You
>>> can your multimeter on the pud pounder setting and probe Sitre
>>> Magana while he's at the Post Office and it could tell you "not a
>>> probability."
>>> But it would be wrong, wouldn't it?
>>> LV
>> MMs are accurate on dc, and ac 50Hz sinewaves. Its only when you
>> depart from those that things /can/ get inaccurate. There is one other
>> known cause: a low quality digital meter with a dying battery, some
>> can read low.
>
>You do realize that you replied to a total troll, don't you?
>
Oi - don't take my name in vain

--
geoff

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TOPIC: TV sucks
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 3:05 pm
From: LSMFT

I haven't seen one program tonight that somebody didn't fuck up the
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tank.

--
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Force shits upon the Back of Reason...
Ben Franklin-

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TOPIC: 12 year-old girl and others charged in beating and branding incident of
15-year-old
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/1a1f747900a97eba?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 3:17 pm
From: Rich Grise

AWS wrote:

> http://www.wlbt.com/Global/story.asp?S=14195616
>
> JACKSON, Miss (AP) - Details have been released in the case of a
> 15-year-old boy beaten and branded with hot metal in Lauderdale County.
>
> Authorities say it happened after an argument with a 12-year-old girl at
> a party where teens had been drinking. Five people including the girl
> are charged in the case.
>
> Sheriff Bllie Sllie says 46-year-old Denise Randall hosted the party
> last weekend.
>
> Sollie says the young girl's boyfriend held the unidentified victim at
> gunpoint while he was beaten and branded.
>
> (Copyright 2011 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Were they niggers?

Thanks,
Rich the Cynic

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 4:43 pm
From: "m II"

"Rich Grise" wrote in message
news:il14o9$eol$2@news.eternal-september.org...

AWS wrote:

Thanks,
Rich the Cynic

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No the people were not illiterate and could pronounce the word "negro"
properly.

mike

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TOPIC: Spook kills his son by repeatedly throwing on ground and stuffing in
trash bin afterwards
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/c412ad2d3c7b1cfb?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 4:21 pm
From: Joe Pucillo

Wasn't it Robert Catt who said...
> You're part of the reason people are moving from
> newsgroups to sites like Facebook and Twitter. There, they can block
> out a------s like you.

They can be blocked here, too. People who post from google just
don't know it.

Get a real newsreader and learn how to use it. Understand that
there are many who can't see your posts, either, because they
block headers containing "groups.google.com"

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TOPIC: I find it hard to love midgets
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Mar 6 2011 9:13 am
From: Michael Gross

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beings around the world. What makes them laugh. First this shit.

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