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* Unidentifiable washing machine klixon - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/96f4548548225802?hl=en
* twelcome to this company - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/e47df025b4564662?hl=en
* How-To: Common Cause Of Flat Panel PS Failure - 5 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ff5b6703ec041dcc?hl=en
* Spook kills his son by repeatedly throwing on ground and stuffing in trash
bin afterwards - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/c412ad2d3c7b1cfb?hl=en
* TV sucks - 7 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/325e56798a864c9c?hl=en
* I find it hard to love midgets - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/c803f4d73c255fac?hl=en
* reparing battery pack - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/0d9491f5db686f53?hl=en
* Angelina Jolie Hot Videos - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ab7cd1db9eaafb46?hl=en
* cheap wholesale nike shox , nike tn , nike air max shoes (www.nike-black.com)
- 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ae9bff604cc6a1fa?hl=en
* IDC 40-pin connector for 80-conductor cable? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/468dba7cb3f71499?hl=en
* Confusing output voltage from transformer - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/127abce726bc4e16?hl=en

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TOPIC: Unidentifiable washing machine klixon
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/96f4548548225802?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 12:32 am
From: Andre Majorel


On 2011-03-03, Meat Plow <mhywatt@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 23:39:54 +0000, Andre Majorel wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know who makes these ?
>>
>> http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/lf1200/files/lf1200_klixon1.jpg
>> http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/lf1200/files/lf1200_klixon2.jpg
>>
>> A logo is visible on the right of the lid :
>>
>> http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/lf1200/files/lf1200_klixon_back.jpg
>>
>> I need to find a replacement. The markings on the top read NA38 94076
>> Z0110A02C1.

Or maybe ZO110A02C1 (zed oh, not zed zero).
>
> Looks like a switch.

It is.

> http://www.sensata.com/klixon/pressure-switch-precision-package.htm

Sensata don't seem to have any with the same form factor.
And they're on the wrong side of the Atlantic for me. Which is
perhaps why they don't have the part I need. <g>

The klixon is a Siltal part, an Italian white goods
manufacturer. But that doesn't tell me who actually made it.
This isn't the Siltal logo.

Siltal is out of business and the part is "no longer
manufactured". Off to find a generic replacement.

An ohmmeter and a saucepan full of water tell me that it's
indeed an NA38, i.e. normally open, closed above 38�C. I would
have expected a security thermostat to have a much higher
actuating temperature, like 100�C. What is 38�C good for ?
Preventing damage to wool/synthetic ?

Thanks everyone.

--
Andr� Majorel http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/
"The object of this year's expedition is to see if we can find
trace of last year's expedition."


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 4:21 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Andre Majorel wrote:
>
> On 2011-03-03, Meat Plow <mhywatt@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 23:39:54 +0000, Andre Majorel wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone know who makes these ?
> >>
> >> http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/lf1200/files/lf1200_klixon1.jpg
> >> http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/lf1200/files/lf1200_klixon2.jpg
> >>
> >> A logo is visible on the right of the lid :
> >>
> >> http://www.teaser.fr/~amajorel/lf1200/files/lf1200_klixon_back.jpg
> >>
> >> I need to find a replacement. The markings on the top read NA38 94076
> >> Z0110A02C1.
>
> Or maybe ZO110A02C1 (zed oh, not zed zero).
> >
> > Looks like a switch.
>
> It is.
>
> > http://www.sensata.com/klixon/pressure-switch-precision-package.htm
>
> Sensata don't seem to have any with the same form factor.
> And they're on the wrong side of the Atlantic for me. Which is
> perhaps why they don't have the part I need. <g>
>
> The klixon is a Siltal part, an Italian white goods
> manufacturer. But that doesn't tell me who actually made it.
> This isn't the Siltal logo.


Klixon made it. It was part of Texas Instruments, but Klixon was
sold to Sensata.

> Siltal is out of business and the part is "no longer
> manufactured". Off to find a generic replacement.
>
> An ohmmeter and a saucepan full of water tell me that it's
> indeed an NA38, i.e. normally open, closed above 38�C. I would
> have expected a security thermostat to have a much higher
> actuating temperature, like 100�C. What is 38�C good for ?
> Preventing damage to wool/synthetic ?
>
> Thanks everyone.


--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid� on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

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TOPIC: twelcome to this company
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 1:11 am
From: kalpana N


ms.kalpana2011@rediffmail.com

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TOPIC: How-To: Common Cause Of Flat Panel PS Failure
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/t/ff5b6703ec041dcc?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 3:14 am
From: Bob Villa


On Mar 6, 10:57 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
> Bob Villa wrote:
>
> > On Mar 6, 3:31 pm, PlainB...@yawhoo.com wrote:
> > > On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:52:54 -0800 (PST), stratu...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > >On Mar 6, 7:35 am, Bob Villa <pheeh.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> This is common to almost all flat panel power supplies. There are 4
> > > >> electrolytic capacitors (same physical size) on the switching PS.
> > > >> There are 2) 1000uF X 10V and 2) 470uF X 15V that usually bulge and/or
> > > >> fail. You shouldn't pay more than .25to .50c for each. (I used higher
> > > >> voltage on the replacements of 1000x15 and 470x25)
> > > >> Symptoms of failure are: slow power-up or totally dead.
>
> > > >Look for highest ripple current rating. Nichicon HZ, HN, Panasonic FM
>
> > > >G
>
> > > Correct.  'Bob Villa' apparently wants repeat business as his high ESR
> > > caps will fail quickly.  Note, 'Bob', good quality low ESR caps aren't
> > > real expensive - you just aren't going to buy them at Radio Shack or
> > > Caps R Us.
>
> > > PlainBill
>
> > Got them from Newark (Illinois Cap. and Rubycon)
>
>    Which series?  The brand tells you nothing about their
> specifications.
>
> --
> You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid on it, because it's
> Teflon coated.

I'll let you know when they fail...dip-shit! (Original crap lasted 5
yrs)


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 6:19 am
From: Meat Plow


On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 03:14:12 -0800, Bob Villa wrote:

> On Mar 6, 10:57 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>> Bob Villa wrote:
>>
>> > On Mar 6, 3:31 pm, PlainB...@yawhoo.com wrote:
>> > > On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:52:54 -0800 (PST), stratu...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > > >On Mar 6, 7:35 am, Bob Villa <pheeh.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >> This is common to almost all flat panel power supplies. There
>> > > >> are 4 electrolytic capacitors (same physical size) on the
>> > > >> switching PS. There are 2) 1000uF X 10V and 2) 470uF X 15V that
>> > > >> usually bulge and/or fail. You shouldn't pay more than .25to
>> > > >> .50c for each. (I used higher voltage on the replacements of
>> > > >> 1000x15 and 470x25) Symptoms of failure are: slow power-up or
>> > > >> totally dead.
>>
>> > > >Look for highest ripple current rating. Nichicon HZ, HN, Panasonic
>> > > >FM
>>
>> > > >G
>>
>> > > Correct.  'Bob Villa' apparently wants repeat business as his high
>> > > ESR caps will fail quickly.  Note, 'Bob', good quality low ESR caps
>> > > aren't real expensive - you just aren't going to buy them at Radio
>> > > Shack or Caps R Us.
>>
>> > > PlainBill
>>
>> > Got them from Newark (Illinois Cap. and Rubycon)
>>
>>    Which series?  The brand tells you nothing about their
>> specifications.
>>
>> --
>> You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid on it, because it's
>> Teflon coated.
>
> I'll let you know when they fail...dip-shit! (Original crap lasted 5
> yrs)

FAIL. You're out of your element here. Go back and troll alt.home.repair.
Your bullshit might be better told there where you don't have real repair
techs who did/do this kind of stuff for a living.

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 9:27 am
From: Bob Villa


On Mar 7, 8:19 am, Meat Plow <mhyw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 03:14:12 -0800, Bob Villa wrote:
> > On Mar 6, 10:57 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
> > wrote:
> >> Bob Villa wrote:
>
> >> > On Mar 6, 3:31 pm, PlainB...@yawhoo.com wrote:
> >> > > On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:52:54 -0800 (PST), stratu...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > > >On Mar 6, 7:35 am, Bob Villa <pheeh.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >> This is common to almost all flat panel power supplies. There
> >> > > >> are 4 electrolytic capacitors (same physical size) on the
> >> > > >> switching PS. There are 2) 1000uF X 10V and 2) 470uF X 15V that
> >> > > >> usually bulge and/or fail. You shouldn't pay more than .25to
> >> > > >> .50c for each. (I used higher voltage on the replacements of
> >> > > >> 1000x15 and 470x25) Symptoms of failure are: slow power-up or
> >> > > >> totally dead.
>
> >> > > >Look for highest ripple current rating. Nichicon HZ, HN, Panasonic
> >> > > >FM
>
> >> > > >G
>
> >> > > Correct.  'Bob Villa' apparently wants repeat business as his high
> >> > > ESR caps will fail quickly.  Note, 'Bob', good quality low ESR caps
> >> > > aren't real expensive - you just aren't going to buy them at Radio
> >> > > Shack or Caps R Us.
>
> >> > > PlainBill
>
> >> > Got them from Newark (Illinois Cap. and Rubycon)
>
> >>    Which series?  The brand tells you nothing about their
> >> specifications.
>
> >> --
> >> You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid on it, because it's
> >> Teflon coated.
>
> > I'll let you know when they fail...dip-shit! (Original crap lasted 5
> > yrs)
>
> FAIL. You're out of your element here. Go back and troll alt.home.repair.
> Your bullshit might be better told there where you don't have real repair
> techs who did/do this kind of stuff for a living.
>
> --
> Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

I'm only relating what I did/or found to fix a problem I had...if you
shitheads want to add to that...your purgative.
Sorry if it has been covered here before.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 4:18 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Bob Villa wrote:
>
> On Mar 6, 10:57 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> > Bob Villa wrote:
> >
> > > On Mar 6, 3:31 pm, PlainB...@yawhoo.com wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:52:54 -0800 (PST), stratu...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > >On Mar 6, 7:35 am, Bob Villa <pheeh.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> This is common to almost all flat panel power supplies. There are 4
> > > > >> electrolytic capacitors (same physical size) on the switching PS.
> > > > >> There are 2) 1000uF X 10V and 2) 470uF X 15V that usually bulge and/or
> > > > >> fail. You shouldn't pay more than .25to .50c for each. (I used higher
> > > > >> voltage on the replacements of 1000x15 and 470x25)
> > > > >> Symptoms of failure are: slow power-up or totally dead.
> >
> > > > >Look for highest ripple current rating. Nichicon HZ, HN, Panasonic FM
> >
> > > > >G
> >
> > > > Correct. 'Bob Villa' apparently wants repeat business as his high ESR
> > > > caps will fail quickly. Note, 'Bob', good quality low ESR caps aren't
> > > > real expensive - you just aren't going to buy them at Radio Shack or
> > > > Caps R Us.
> >
> > > > PlainBill
> >
> > > Got them from Newark (Illinois Cap. and Rubycon)
> >
> > Which series? The brand tells you nothing about their
> > specifications.
> >
> > --
> > You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid on it, because it's
> > Teflon coated.
>
> I'll let you know when they fail...dip-shit! (Original crap lasted 5
> yrs)


Dipshit? You don't even know how to snip a sig file, let alone
anything about real troubleshooting. I've been finding and replacing
bad electrolytics for over 45 years.


--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid� on it, because it's
Teflon coated.


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 4:27 pm
From: "Michael A. Terrell"

Grant wrote:
>
> On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 23:56:56 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >stratus46@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mar 6, 7:35 am, Bob Villa <pheeh.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > This is common to almost all flat panel power supplies. There are 4
> >> > electrolytic capacitors (same physical size) on the switching PS.
> >> > There are 2) 1000uF X 10V and 2) 470uF X 15V that usually bulge and/or
> >> > fail. You shouldn't pay more than .25to .50c for each. (I used higher
> >> > voltage on the replacements of 1000x15 and 470x25)
> >> > Symptoms of failure are: slow power-up or totally dead.
> >>
> >> Look for highest ripple current rating. Nichicon HZ, HN, Panasonic FM
> >
> >
> > Going to a higher voltage usually raises the initial ESR. That kind
> >of defeats the purpose of repairing the equipment.
>
> Opposite, higher voltage rating usually lowers ESR ;) Check the datasheets.


It depends on the construction ot the Electrolytic. Some larger size
cans have four identical capacitors in parallel, inside the can to lower
the ESR. A lot don't.


--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid� on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

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TOPIC: Spook kills his son by repeatedly throwing on ground and stuffing in
trash bin afterwards
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 3:22 am
From: Robert Catt


On Mar 6, 7:21 pm, Joe Pucillo <new...@pucillo.net.xx> wrote:

> They can be blocked here, too.  People who post from google just
> don't know it.

I know it, but for all the occasional newsgroup browsing I do, Google
will suffice, even though I know any of my posts are blocked by some
people. I prefer Facebook, Twitter etc. to newsgroups anyway, but
thanks for your kind concern, Joe.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 12:09 pm
From: John Robertson


Lady Veteran wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:17:15 -0800 (PST), Robert Catt
> <bobbythecatt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Let's see. So far you've used the racist epithets spook, coon and
>> nigger in your headers, and a few others denigrating other ethnic and
>> racial groups. You're part of the reason people are moving from
>> newsgroups to sites like Facebook and Twitter. There, they can block
>> out a------s like you.
>
> This idiot is forging some one's address. I suggest you email
> abuse@aioe.org and let them know that he is doing this. They actually
> don't like forgers. I have reported this same idiot for using my
> address and they blocked usage of my address. Needless to say this
> idiot is very mad at me...
>
> That is OK-it is good for to be angry - and SILENT.
>
> LV
>

I agree, reporting these clowns to the source may indeed cut the volume
down. Remember to include all the headers in your forwarded message so
they have the best chance of blocking.

John :-#)#

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 12:26 pm
From: John Robertson


Michael Gross wrote:
> Lady Veteran wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 16:38:15 +0200, Steve Hayes
>> <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 04:31:47 +0000, Kay <kaysnntp@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2011/03/03/03-baby-death.html?sid=101
>>>>
>>>> A man accused of killing his 3-month-old son by repeatedly throwing him
>>>> to the ground pleaded guilty today to a charge of aggravated murder in
>>> Spook?
>>>
>>> CIA, MI6, Mossad, or what?
>> This idiot doesn't know that the modern word for a spy or a person who
>> worked in the intelligence world.
>>
>> We can laugh at him...it's OK...
>>
>> LV
>>
>
> 1. What is Lady Veteran's real name?...


Note that Michael Gross is not the originator of this message. This is a
personal attack on LV by the original poster who has forged Mr. Gross's
email - but by looking at the headers one can easily see that this
instead was posted within aioe.org

Message ID: <il0fhp$9m5$3@speranza.aioe.org> (unique to each message)

NNTP-Posting-Host: gR2qYcMGsRnx9m52PKV2dA.user.speranza.aioe.org (same
ID as original racist post - you can run, but you can't hide!)

Certainly enough for US law enforcement agents to track the induhvidual
down (if they are so inclined).

John :-#(#

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TOPIC: TV sucks
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 5:58 am
From: Boris Mohar


On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 18:05:21 -0500, LSMFT <LSMFT@teranews.com> wrote:

>I haven't seen one program tonight that somebody didn't fuck up the
>sound or screw up the picture or both. This country is going in the shit
>tank.


I agree. I am in Canada with Rogers Cable. Sound is all over the place
from channel to channel and it also varies on the same channel. I am not
talking about loud commercials.

Regards,

Boris Mohar

Got Knock? - see:
Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs (among other things) http://www.viatrack.ca

void _-void-_ in the obvious place


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 9:50 am
From: "(PeteCresswell)"


Per Boris Mohar:
> Sound is all over the place
>from channel to channel and it also varies on the same channel.

Can anybody comment on lip synch?

Seems like it was especially egregious in the months after
analog-digital cutover and has been slowly improving.

Or am I just wishing?
--
PeteCresswell


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 10:48 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"


> Can anybody comment on lip sync?

On Comcast a few channels have imperfect lip sync. As to why -- I don't
know.


== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 11:41 am
From: Jeff Liebermann


On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:48:00 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

>> Can anybody comment on lip sync?
>
>On Comcast a few channels have imperfect lip sync. As to why -- I don't
>know.

Probably the political channels. It's difficult to talk through both
sides of the mouth and get it right. However, it's most likely an
artifact of multiple transcoding.

--
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558


== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 11:57 am
From: Meat Plow


On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 10:48:00 -0800, William Sommerwerck wrote:

>> Can anybody comment on lip sync?
>
> On Comcast a few channels have imperfect lip sync. As to why -- I don't
> know.

I've only had a small problem with Discovery HD. Once in a while I get
some pixelation. Something you would expect with a less than adequate
signal. But that's not the case. And the cable company can't explain it.

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 1:30 pm
From: Meat Plow


On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 11:41:54 -0800, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:48:00 -0800, "William Sommerwerck"
> <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>> Can anybody comment on lip sync?
>>
>>On Comcast a few channels have imperfect lip sync. As to why -- I don't
>>know.
>
> Probably the political channels. It's difficult to talk through both
> sides of the mouth and get it right. However, it's most likely an
> artifact of multiple transcoding.

LOL

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse


== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 4:31 pm
From: Jeff Liebermann


On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 19:57:03 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow <mhywatt@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 10:48:00 -0800, William Sommerwerck wrote:
>
>>> Can anybody comment on lip sync?
>>
>> On Comcast a few channels have imperfect lip sync. As to why -- I don't
>> know.
>
>I've only had a small problem with Discovery HD. Once in a while I get
>some pixelation. Something you would expect with a less than adequate
>signal. But that's not the case. And the cable company can't explain it.

This might add fuel to the fire. Note that this is from a cable
industry insider, published in a CATV industry journal:

<http://www.cedmagazine.com/articles/2011/02/ciciora-corner-can-you-hear-me.aspx>
Digital television has brought the scourge of �lip sync� errors.
Video signals and aural signals require vastly different
processing, which results in different amounts of processing time.
Unless appropriate additional artificial delay is added, the sound
and the video will end up out of synchronization. This difference
can accumulate if multiple conversions take place in the path from
the original source to the final display site. I�ve seen lip sync
discrepancies that were so bad, it appeared that the characters
were speaking another language and that the speech I was hearing
was dubbed in. The problem is so pervasive that my sound system
comes with a delay adjustment so that I can manually compensate at
home. That would be a reasonable solution if the delay was
constant from channel to channel, or even from program to program
on the same channel. But it is not.

On the home front, I've seen sound sync fall apart when ripping and
transcoding content from a DVD to some other video protocol. There
are tweaks for the problem, such as VLC which allows you to speed up
or slow down the audio using the "f" and "g" keys. You can also
"desync" the video and audio for a fixed user settable delay. The
problem is that controlling the sync seems to be too much of challenge
for broadcasters and cable companies. To make things worse, it seems
(to me) that different ATSC decoders have varying delays. It's
suppose to be controlled to between +15 and -45 msec but I'm beginning
to have my doubts:
<http://www.pixelinstruments.tv/articles.htm>
<http://www.pixelinstruments.tv/articles5.htm>
(Lots more on audio sync on the above URL).

Incidentally, if you also happen to notice that cable video doth suck,
you might find this article, from the same issue, rather illuminating:
<http://www.cedmagazine.com/articles/2011/02/transcoding-presto-change-o.aspx>

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Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 6:02 am
From: Boris Mohar


On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 17:13:10 +0000, Michael Gross <pigwiggler@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>That's the only thing I hate is the goddamn midgets. All of them. I
>don't care what color they are I hate them all. A standing order at the
>door there, it should read "No Fucking Midgets." I mean that. I don't
>know what about midgets riles me, but they look up at you like they want
>sympathy. "Get out of my way little short motherfucker." I can't kick as
>high as I used to but I put my foot in a midget's ass. Don't want none
>around me don't want none. You try to be nice to a midget, you stand and
>converse with them. They stand there breathing on your fly. I don't like
>that. I don't want anybody breathing on my fly unless they serious. If
>you do sure you do. We'll pause here for a moment, we'll drink to human
>beings around the world. What makes them laugh. First this shit.


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TOPIC: reparing battery pack
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Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 6:29 am
From: Meat Plow


On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 12:47:53 -0800, William Sommerwerck wrote:

>>> Using NiMH cells should eliminate any problem, as they (generally)
>>> tolerate rapid charging. I used regular NiMH cells for a Polaroid #365
>>> electronic flash, and the #363 rapid charger handles them fine, even
>>> though it was designed for rapid-charge nicads.
>
>> I'd be cautious of the charger meeting the requirements of 2300 mAh
>> cells without it struggling.
>
> The charger doesn't "know" the cell's capacity. It just pumps current
> into it. The better class of chargers shuts off when a particular cell
> voltage (and/or some other condition) has been reached.

If it's just a brainless charge that's correct.

>
>> Been dealing with these issues for many years in battery packs for my
>> handy talkies. I have a spare 7.2v 1400 mAh pack for my Vertex FT-60.
>> It won't charge slow but drop it in the rapid charger and it charges
>> just fine. Doesn't make much sense. I own a Maha multi charger that
>> uses a temp probe placed on the cells to help decide the charge.
>
> I have two MAHA C9000 chargers. I wish they'd been available 40 years
> ago.

Forget the model of mine. It was a model probably circa 1996 because AES
had just started to advertise their products. It wasn't something to just
pop 4 AAA cells into. It could charge several different styles. I don't
use it these days since I've bought drop in rapid chargers. It's at my
office in the basement with the rest of my junk or I'd give the model.


--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 7:21 am
From: "William Sommerwerck"


>> The charger doesn't "know" the cell's capacity. It just
>> pumps current into it. The better class of chargers shuts
>> off when a particular cell voltage (and/or some other
>> condition) has been reached.

> If it's just a brainless charge, that's correct.

I'm so accustomed to 0.1C charging that I rarely set the C9000 for greater
than 0.3C -- even though 0.5C charges are /recommened/ by MAHA for its own
cells. I'm afraid of overheating the cells.

The C9000 can do a lot of useful stuff -- break in new cells, rejuvenate old
cells (supposedly), and measure cell capacity. The latter is useful for
assembling packs with closely matched cells. You should also check capacity
when you buy cells, as they're sometimes out of spec. (MAHA says the
tolerance is +/- 10% of the rated value. MAHA will replace low-capacity
cells.)

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Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 11:46 am
From: tuinkabouter


Op 3/7/2011 2:24 AM, DaveC schreef:
>> The other side of the cable usually fixes that anyway...
>
> No it doesn't.
>
> There's no way to get 2 female connectors to mate pin 1 to pin 1.

There are two types of connctors. One AMP and one other, i think ansley,
but i'm not shure. They use different pins for the stiped wire.
As long as you dont mix brands, you have no problems.
But it can be used to switch pins.

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Date: Mon, Mar 7 2011 1:31 pm
From: George Herold


On Mar 5, 7:18 am, "john reves" <bluestar09...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> I have a very small sony amplifier (the portable type such as you would
> travel with and attach to an Ipod). I dont have the 9 Volt DC transformer
> that came with it, so decided to use one of those 'variable voltage'
> transformers that I bought from Lidl some time ago.
>
> It's not clear from the transformer which of the polaritys the polarity
> switch is indicating. So to check the polarity i used a voltmeter.
>
> The choice of output voltages on this transformer is 3, 4.5, 6, 7.5, 9, and
> 12 volts.  The output I require for this particular amplifier is 9 volts.
> But when taking a reading from the voltmeter it only reads 7.5 volts on the
> 9 volt setting.
>
> Checking the others, 3volts is really 2.5volts, 4.5 is really 4, 6 is 5, 7.5
> is 6.5 and 12 is 10v.
>
> I read somewhere that a voltage reading from a voltmeter is different from
> the reading taken when something is 'under- load'.
>
> Would you use the 9 volt setting (which reads 7.5v) or use the 12v voltage
> setting which reads 10volt, for use with this 9volt amplifier.  Thanks for
> advice.

I like the switch mode power supply drooping under no-load idea. Can
you put a bit of load on it and test again? 1 k ohm might be enough.

George H.


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