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| "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Jan 10 07:26AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 10:04:29 AM UTC-5, rickman wrote: > So, every car comes with a battery warranty. If it fails to start your car > within the warranty period you get a replacement. Why are you arguing this? !@#$%^ apples and (*&^%$ oranges! That batter warranty (if it exists): Has not one damned thing to do with the vehicle warranty - and must be pursued separately from the vehicle warranty if a claim is necessary. Why are you so dense as to not "GET" that? Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
| nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Jan 10 10:44AM -0500 In article <p35ald$bs8$3@dont-email.me>, rickman > > decrease with time and use; this is not a defect. > Note the key sentence: > "unless failure has occurred due to a defect in materials or workmanship." it's not a defect in materials or workmanship. *all* batteries degrade over time. there is no getting around that, at least with today's technology. maybe at some point in the future there will be an eternal power source that never wears out. that time is not now. > I think that is what Apple has said is happening to their batteries. Aren't > they fixing this problem in newer phones with better batteries. If the old > batteries aren't bad, why would they need to fix them? no. |
| nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Jan 10 10:44AM -0500 In article <p35ahq$bs8$2@dont-email.me>, rickman > > be replaced under warranty. if it passes, then there's no reason to > > replace it. > Did you read this in the Apple warranty? I'd like to see a copy. <https://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/products/ios-warranty-document-us. html> This Warranty does not apply: (a) to consumable parts, such as batteries or protective coatings that are designed to diminish over time, unless failure has occurred due to a defect in materials or workmanship; ... it's a standard disclaimer. > The only test I really care about is running the phone the way it did when > new. If it doesn't do that the diagnostic test is pointless. it's not a pointless test. there's a big difference between a battery that's at 95% capacity after a year (well within normal range) versus one that's at 60% capacity in the same time frame, or has swollen or some other defect. |
| nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Jan 10 10:44AM -0500 In article <p35arj$bs8$4@dont-email.me>, rickman > > the batteries work perfectly fine in normal everyday use. > > only the absolute maximum was limited, and only slightly. > So they don't work "fine". they do work fine. > My understanding is if Apple didn't install > software to throttle the CPU the battery would cause the phone to shutdown. > That's not working "perfectly fine". it's also something that happens to every other battery operated device when pushed hard enough. > > embroiled in lawsuits over dysfunctional devices, including LG's G4, > > V10, G5, V20 and even the Nexus 5X. > You clearly don't understand the technology. far more than you do, and unlike you, i understand that *all* battery powered devices are affected, not just from one particular company. > If Apple had known of the > problem when they designed the phone they would have used a larger battery > with a higher maximum current. larger batteries cost more and take up more space. mobile devices are highly competitive and users don't want big bulky phones, nor do they want to pay for battery capacity they won't end up needing. most people check email, text, web surf, etc., hardly cpu intensive activities, so a high capacity battery would be wasted. the battery is more than adequate for the vast majority of use cases. apple could have made the iphone the size of an ipad to hold a very large battery, but it wouldn't have sold particularly well. everything has tradeoffs. > Then as it wore it would still power the > phone at 100% capacity past the end of the warranty period. again, this has nothing whatsoever to do with warranty periods. |
| nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>: Jan 10 10:44AM -0500 In article <p35b3e$gde$1@dont-email.me>, rickman > my car overheats the problem is the car wasn't designed correctly or is > broken. Cooling systems should be designed to cool the thing they are > cooling. i'm not ignoring anything. if you drive your car in extreme situations, it likely will overheat, possibly with other failures too. you can see these people on the side of the road on hot summer days. > > they are, for normal everyday use. push it hard, such as playing a > > graphics intensive game, and it will get warm, possibly very warm. > What? You aren't supposed to play games on a computer? LOL nonsense. games are extremely popular on mobile devices. > > there are no fans in a mobile phone. there is no room for a large > > heatsink on the processor. > They also don't run the same sort of programs as PCs. yes they do. the obvious ones are email and web browsing, but many people also edit photos and videos on their phones. > But they are > computers and need to be designed to keep cool when being used and not to > burst into flames because someone played a game too long. and they are. > > if it gets too warm, it has to throttle. > Or it can be designed with adequate passive cooling. it is, but everything has limits. > >> catch fire. > > yep, which is why it has to be throttled. > Or better, cooled. right, because a phone with a large heatsink sticking out the back and a fan that's always on will sell. not. |
| Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>: Jan 10 09:47AM -0600 On 1/10/18 9:02 AM, rickman wrote: > I don't own an Apple Phone So you don't even have a dog in this race. -- "I am a river to my people." Jeff-1.0 WA6FWi http:foxsmercantile.com |
| "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Jan 10 08:00AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 10:44:44 AM UTC-5, nospam wrote: > right, because a phone with a large heatsink sticking out the back and > a fan that's always on will sell. > not. Of course, now the battery must support the fan as well. Each phone will now come with a Beanie including solar cells and a wind turbine, a fanny-pack for the battery, and a tump line for the phone itself. They will throw in the blue-tooth earpiece for free. Go figure. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
| "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Jan 10 07:40AM -0800 On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 10:10:52 AM UTC-5, rickman wrote: > > As stated, one gets only one set of eyes. > Do you wear sunglasses every time you go out into the sun? Do you put on > sun screen every time you go out into the sun? You only get one skin! OK, let me preface my remarks by stating, for the record, that I think you are a single-minded individual, unencumbered by the thought process, who can hold only one single idea in his mind at any given moment. Further, that you have no use for actual facts, most especially those that are counter to the single idea-of-that-moment. Further, that you are spectacularly guilty of the fallacy of reasoning from the specific to the general (AKA - Leaping to Conclusions). I could add more, but I am sure that is enough for now. a) All my corrective lenses are coated against UVA and UVB. Since such coatings were available. Whether tinted or not. b) As a fair-skinned Irish-German individual who is also bald, yes, I am quite careful about the sun. I have been conscious of these things since childhood. That I have lived and worked in the Middle East is also applicable. And you? Pete Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
| "pfjw@aol.com" <pfjw@aol.com>: Jan 10 07:49AM -0800 On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 5:46:08 PM UTC-5, The Real Bev wrote: > And they should have been designed a lot better. Do dogs have as wide > a variety of distortions as humans do? Maybe the ones that did just > died before they reproduced... Dogs, yes they most certainly do have the same issues with their eyes as humans. That it does not commonly manifest is because most dogs are either reasonably close to their ancestral DNA (wolves) and/or do not live long enough. But two of our Golden Retrieves who passed age 13 had cataracts, and our present Golden is somewhat near-sighted. Frisbees 'go away' after about 30' or so. As we breed our dogs away from their ancestry, we will be seeing more and more of this. One more interesting thought: Corrective lenses were once quite uncommon. After several wars (and better diagnoses available), they are now necessary for 71% of the population, with leaps after each significant war. Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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