Digest for sci.electronics.repair@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 2 topics

David Farber <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Jun 17 09:45AM -0700

On 6/17/2021 9:16 AM, Peter W. wrote:
 
> I have done a lot of these over time, including one 16-lamp (candelabra-base) crystal chandelier in our present house. That took nearly 12 hours of work to get just right - and including color-coding and removing many of the crystals for safe-keeping. I learned the ball-chain trick from a restorer back in the 1980s when he showed me how he did it. Did you know that one can still get the 'fake candle-wax' socket covers? and in multiple styles? https://i.etsystatic.com/13547198/r/il/a525df/1815436283/il_1140xN.1815436283_78js.jpg One more thing on that particular chandelier ( I wish I had a picture, but I am at work). It is a sad story, but when we purchased our house in 2008, it had been empty for 2 years as the previous occupants lost it to foreclosure. They had sold off all the appliances, some of the vintage hardware and other strange things, but not the three fairly massive chandeliers. When we had our insurance inspection, the inspector put a rider on our policy calling them out as we had the 'full-in-kind' restoration option. I won't state the imputed value, other than I thought it was absurd at the time. Not so much now.
 
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
 
The solder I have is Ersin, multicore, 60/40 which is at least 15 years
old. Is not using solder better than using the wrong solder?
 
Afterthought: I just found this discussion:
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/do-you-use-60-40-solder-or-63-37-solder-and-why.1982988/
 
At this rate, I'll never get this lamp fixed! LOL
 
Thanks for your reply.
--
David Farber
Los Osos, CA
"Peter W." <peterwieck33@gmail.com>: Jun 18 04:00AM -0700

> old. Is not using solder better than using the wrong solder?
 
> Afterthought: I just found this discussion:
> https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/do-you-use-60-40-solder-or-63-37-solder-and-why.1982988/
 
If you are careful, 60/40 is OK - point being that you are not using enough on the wire end to have to worry about it moving during the plastic stage.
 
Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
David Farber <farberbear.unspam@aol.com>: Jun 18 09:09AM -0700

On 6/18/2021 4:00 AM, Peter W. wrote:
 
> If you are careful, 60/40 is OK - point being that you are not using enough on the wire end to have to worry about it moving during the plastic stage.
 
> Peter Wieck
> Melrose Park, PA
 
Hi Peter,
 
Thanks so much for all the details you've provided. I've ordered the
parts and should have it all put back together by the end of next week.
 
--
David Farber
Los Osos, CA
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Jun 17 09:48AM -0700

On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 16:09:53 -0000 (UTC), Wond <lost@the.ether.net>
wrote:
 
>> stairs, and replace the contents to their former hiding places. I
>> should probably retire, this time for real.
 
> Just wait 'til you forget what stuff is in which box!
 
No need to wait. It's been driving me insane for eight months. I'll
spare you the details, but I had to leave in a hurry. There was no
time to properly gift wrap everything, buy proper bankers boxes, or
even label things. I did my best to put similar things in separate
boxes, but even gave up doing that. Worse, I didn't have time to much
triage on the junk. So, I tossed, donated, sold, or gave away what I
could, and hauled most everything to the house. (Note: I don't have
a garage). I now have several mountains of boxes. Finding anything
usually results in something resembling an archeological dig. This
morning, I was trying to find an XP Home CD. It was easier to
download an ISO image than to find the CD. I'm slowly going through
the mess and re-sorting everything, but will take months (if not
years).
 
Gotta run. Going to the big city (Santa Cruz) to get a replacement
drive shaft for the Subaru. There went my stimulus money.
 
 
 
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>: Jun 18 09:33AM +1000

On 18/6/21 2:48 am, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> download an ISO image than to find the CD. I'm slowly going through
> the mess and re-sorting everything, but will take months (if not
> years).
 
Catalog, don't sort. Open one box a day,, write down what's in it, then
label and close it up again. Soon you'll have a file you can search to
tell you which box to find stuff in.
 
Glad to see you back and in fine fettle, Jeff!
 
CH.
legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca>: Jun 17 11:36PM -0400

On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 09:48:32 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
 
>years).
 
>Gotta run. Going to the big city (Santa Cruz) to get a replacement
>drive shaft for the Subaru. There went my stimulus money.
 
Moving every 3-4yrs for projects, I kept the shipping containers and
tended to store stuff in shipable hardware - even leaving stuff in
labelled boxes between moves.
 
Still not obvious where a specific item might have been sorted,
but cuts down on the possibilities.
 
Things will always go missing. When I accidentally find them,
they go back to where I think they should have been.
 
I've got a pretty good idea if some things are going to be more
useful than others in the near future - grading their accessibility.
 
Hardest stuff is project-specific. Was it stored as project stuff
or general use? Connector or harnesse? Mech hardware or specialized
conductor/insulator? Flat or vertical? Office or lab? Which SW rev
on which machine?
 
Some test or fab configurations of hardware and software, you can
never get back - too many immediate and unrecordable practical
quirks.
 
RL
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>: Jun 17 11:02PM -0700

On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 09:33:25 +1000, Clifford Heath
 
>Catalog, don't sort. Open one box a day,, write down what's in it, then
>label and close it up again. Soon you'll have a file you can search to
>tell you which box to find stuff in.
 
I didn't have time to itemize or classify everything. My temporary
fix was to dump the contents of the smaller boxes on the floor, take a
digital photo, print the photo, paste it to the box, and put
everything back into the box. That didn't work because it was
difficult to see clearly all the items when scattered. So, I switched
back to numbering the boxes and itemizing the contents. That works,
but takes forever, especially when I want to move things from one box
to another. The boxes are also not of uniform size and frequently get
moved around the house. The result is I sometimes know which box has
the goodies, but can't find it under the pile of boxes. I'm not quite
ready for RFID tags, but I'm tempted. I'm going to need to clear out
at least one room, so I have a place to do the sorting. I'm also
going to need to downsize the pile. At this time, I'm working on a
rather large pile of cables and wire, which are probably going to the
recyclers.
 
>Glad to see you back and in fine fettle, Jeff!
>CH.
 
Thanks, but don't assume that I'm back. Now that I'm retired, I'm
more busy than when I was working. Besides people wanting a piece of
my non-existent spare time, I'm still cleaning up from last summer's
fires and a storm in December which knocked down a few trees. If I'm
on the computer posting drivel to Usenet, it's because I'm too tired
to do anything else.
 
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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